SBP Long-Term National Pool (Vol. XVI)

[pachador2]

But isnt Ryan Gregorio the brother of Patrick Gregorio, the head of Smart Sports under Manny Pangilinan ???
Unless, the general consensus of posters and of fellow coaches is that Ryan Gregorio will be an excellent coach to replace toroman for the Gilas team, then, it would be logical to say that choosing ryan Gregorio as the new Gilas coach was made on the basis of family(palakasan) connections -if ever that happens....

Whoever will be the coach selected for Gilas should be chosen on the basis of qualifications and merit...

“In reality, the SBP is looking at a pool of coaches and that includes Toroman and the other two PBA coaches – Reyes and (Meralco Bolts head coach Ryan) Gregorio – as candidates. The SBP is currently at its planning stage from now up to the end of the year and from there, we should have already identified the coaches and the players who will compose SMART-Gilas 2,” added the former PBA commissioner.

 

[reamily2]

To be honest its time for Ryan Gregorio to show what his capable of but the public and the filipino basketball community will criticize his selection aside from his not so popular coaching style to some basketball purists;

1. His inexperience to intl ball game
2. Nepotism issues.
3. He will get over to some guys such as Norman Black and Chot Reyes who is connected longer to the mvp stable than him
4. Achievements as a coach under MVP group.

 

[reamily2]

Hihihihi ... MVP/MetroPacific assets playing alongside RSA/San Miguel assets. Is hell freezing over? Pumuti na ba ang uwak? These two "caporegimes" have been punking each other over the juiciest business transactions in the country for nearly two decades.

Would it be so wrong to hold my reservations until I see its fruition in the flesh? I fear the PBA is just a backdrop to this showdown/get-together. One more thing ... the SBP. Who will have their ear? Whose influence will weigh heavier? Legitimate questions folks.

if we still continue to not win the struggle will be who will bankroll the team.


But if we win..the showdown will be..

whose stable will produce more productive national team players.. they will help each other but to the point that inner good competition that the smc player will back up mvpm player in that position or vice versa.. unity as they say but still the "friendly" competition..


Thats a BIG IF we started WINNING

 

[durden_tyler2]

Absolutely yes a hybrid line-up of Gilas II + doulthit + 5 PBA is better than an all PBA line-up with little preparation. Mainly due to the reason that the former option will have a operating system already running and you will be simply reinforcing it with additional pieces. This is very different from putting 12 new players how ever talented and expecting them to apply a system you developed a year ago.

Continuity of the system and its personel is a must (remember if you're limited to 5 PBA players ,Gilas would probably pick all ex-gilas players now playing in the PBA)

Speaking of continuity , I read this:

“That’s one of the important things we’ve discussed during the SBP meeting last week, how continuity will work. Continuity means not only in coaching, but the flow of players as well,” said Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) executive director Sonny Barrios.

As for the continuity of the coaching staff

“In reality, the SBP is looking at a pool of coaches and that includes Toroman and the other two PBA coaches – Reyes and (Meralco Bolts head coach Ryan) Gregorio – as candidates. The SBP is currently at its planning stage from now up to the end of the year and from there, we should have already identified the coaches and the players who will compose SMART-Gilas 2,” added the former PBA commissioner.

We'll have to see if the coaches have the same opinion as you. If Toroman had a choice, i doubt he'd be only tapping the TNT players

 

[rasputin2]

Well I do hope this time the SBP or the Gilas coaching staff does not get players below 6 feet or maybe keep the players below 6 feet to 1 to minimize potential match-up problems.

 

[reamily2]

Well I do hope this time the SBP or the Gilas coaching staff does not get players below 6 feet or maybe keep the players below 6 feet to 1 to minimize potential match-up problems.

2 is a good number but 4 is a crowd they are not only below 6 feet they are below 5'8 with except tiu who is passable at 5'10 the fact that 2 of those below 6 footers are not known to their defensive capabilities

the 2 guys should be strong in both ends of the court

 

[analyzed2]

We'll have to see if the coaches have the same opinion as you. If Toroman had a choice, i doubt he'd be only tapping the TNT players

I never suggested to get purely TNT players, but former Gilas players who belong to Poweraide (Casio, Lassiter) . Petron (Lutz) and then TNT players.

And yes if Toromon had a choice I am confident he would do the same and tap former Gilas players as I've suggeted.

 

[durden_tyler2]

I never suggested to get purely TNT players, but former Gilas players who belong to Poweraide (Casio, Lassiter) . Petron (Lutz) and then TNT players.

And yes if Toromon had a choice I am confident he would do the same and tap former Gilas players as I've suggeted.

i was referring to the past stint But yeah, if Toroman is going to be the coach (which is very improbable) of course he'll want to have the players who know the system.

In Gilas 1.0 we saw Toroman choose Ranidel/Kelly over Aguilar/Barracael. For good reasons probably but obviously Toroman trusted the guys who had less knowledge to the system.

 

[rasputin2]

2 is a good number but 4 is a crowd they are not only below 6 feet they are below 5'8 with except tiu who is passable at 5'10 the fact that 2 of those below 6 footers are not known to their defensive capabilities

the 2 guys should be strong in both ends of the court

Yes maybe 2 6ft-below guys at the most and I agree that they should be strong in both ends of the court.

And maybe they should also toy with the idea of using whoever they get as shooting guards to play some point guard from time to time. I was really wondering if this idea did not somehow come across Coach Toroman's mind - playing Lutz, Lassiter or maybe Ababou as PGs (or emergency pointguards as he stacked his line up with lots of PGs).

 

[yesha_242]

My PH team
C - Peek, Belga, Crisano
PF - Quinahan, Ranidel, Menk
SF - Chito Loyzaga, Joey Loyzaga
SG - Tubid, Cardona, Mark Yee
PG - Arboleda

Coach - Sonny Jaworski

Team motto - "ahooo! ahooo!"

 

[ZIMATAR2]

My PH team
C - Peek, Belga, Crisano
PF - Quinahan, Ranidel, Menk
SF - Chito Loyzaga, Joey Loyzaga
SG - Tubid, Cardona, Mark Yee
PG - Arboleda

Coach - Sonny Jaworski

Team motto - "ahooo! ahooo!"

Please add Onchie Dela Cruz as PG and Ricky Relosa as starter este PF...

 

[analyzed2]

As the title of this Thread is SBP's long term national team program. I'm looking and hoping for a sustainable program that can continue to exist even without the support of just one (MVP) sponsor. Let's face it long term it's simply not sustainable just to rely on MVP alone to bankroll for enternity the national team. That is why a MOA between the SBP (not smart) and the PBA, as well as a MOA between the SBP and other leagues (UAAP, Patriots , SMB's ABL ) is really important. That is the foundation of a sustainable long term program, where in regardless of who the sponsor will be, the program can continue to run. From the gains of the Gilas program we already can see key factors to success.
1. There has to be a young man's (19-22 yrs old year round training pool exposed to international basketball.
2. We need a naturalised center, We have one now in Doulthit but he won't play forever, when he is gone who will bankroll getting a replacement?
3. We need the PBA reinforcements , in regardless of who is running the program (smart etc) we need a MOA in place to constantly have elite pros avaialble.

We don't have to re-invent the wheel everytime we fail in international tournaments. It's not rocket science, the key factors have already been identified, it is now just a matter of establishing them permanetly as our foundation. Sort of like our constitution of how we run things. No more of this long debate , senate inquiies etc on how to do things. Just put things ( the foundation ) in place once and for all

 

[donlyn2]

Please add Onchie Dela Cruz as PG and Ricky Relosa as starter este PF...

No Love for The Destroyer?

 

[The_Big_Cat2]

My PH team
C - Peek, Belga, Crisano
PF - Quinahan, Ranidel, Menk
SF - Chito Loyzaga, Joey Loyzaga
SG - Tubid, Cardona, Mark Yee
PG - Arboleda

Coach - Sonny Jaworski

Team motto - "ahooo! ahooo!"

Please add Onchie Dela Cruz as PG and Ricky Relosa as starter este PF...

My God! You need tear gas and batons to beat this team.

 

[Alex072]

No Love for The Destroyer?

and Wilmer "the Killer" Ong hehehe

 

[nardy2]

My PH team
C - Peek, Belga, Crisano
PF - Quinahan, Ranidel, Menk
SF - Chito Loyzaga, Joey Loyzaga
SG - Tubid, Cardona, Mark Yee
PG - Arboleda

Coach - Sonny Jaworski

Team motto - "ahooo! ahooo!"

I'll go for:

88 Mick Pennisi 6-9 235 Eastern Michigan University

43 Alex Crisano 6-7 240 Brooklyn College

30 Beau Belga 6-6 225 Philippine Christian University

48 JR Quiñahan 6-6 200 University of Visayas

26 Ariel Mepaña 6-5 215 University of Visayas

15 Gilbert Bulawan 6-5 195 San Sebastian College

33 Ranidel de Ocampo 6-5 200 St. Francis of Assisi

5 Jondan Salvador 6-3 210 De La Salle University

8 Mark Yee 6-3 180 San Sebastian College-Cavite

18 Jerwin Gaco 6-3 180 De La Salle University

6 Rogemar Menor 6-2 210 San Beda College

71 Ronald Tubid 6-1 175 University of the East

14 Mark Cardona 6-1 175 De La Salle University

32 Dennis Miranda 6-0 180 Far Eastern University

19 Wynne Arboleda 5-11 180 Manuel L. Quezon College

16 John Raymundo 5-10 170 San Sebastian College


Sonny Jaworski (head coach) Yeng Guiao (Assistant Coach)

Ato Tolentino (Consultant)

Rudy Distrito and Onchie dela Cruz - advisers

 

[theImbaguy2]

I'll go for:

88 Mick Pennisi 6-9 235 Eastern Michigan University

43 Alex Crisano 6-7 240 Brooklyn College

30 Beau Belga 6-6 225 Philippine Christian University

48 JR Quiñahan 6-6 200 University of Visayas

26 Ariel Mepaña 6-5 215 University of Visayas

15 Gilbert Bulawan 6-5 195 San Sebastian College

33 Ranidel de Ocampo 6-5 200 St. Francis of Assisi

5 Jondan Salvador 6-3 210 De La Salle University

8 Mark Yee 6-3 180 San Sebastian College-Cavite

18 Jerwin Gaco 6-3 180 De La Salle University

6 Rogemar Menor 6-2 210 San Beda College

71 Ronald Tubid 6-1 175 University of the East

14 Mark Cardona 6-1 175 De La Salle University

32 Dennis Miranda 6-0 180 Far Eastern University

19 Wynne Arboleda 5-11 180 Manuel L. Quezon College

16 John Raymundo 5-10 170 San Sebastian College


Sonny Jaworski (head coach) Yeng Guiao (Assistant Coach)

Ato Tolentino (Consultant)

Rudy Distrito and Onchie dela Cruz - advisers

lol@ the advisers. this team will kill the competition(yes pun intended)

how bout hiring my fav Bruce 'Lee' Bowen as skills coach???
Edit:

Pictured: where Bruce Lee Bowen happens.​

 

[ichikiller2]

I'll go for:

88 Mick Pennisi 6-9 235 Eastern Michigan University

43 Alex Crisano 6-7 240 Brooklyn College

30 Beau Belga 6-6 225 Philippine Christian University

48 JR Quiñahan 6-6 200 University of Visayas

26 Ariel Mepaña 6-5 215 University of Visayas

15 Gilbert Bulawan 6-5 195 San Sebastian College

33 Ranidel de Ocampo 6-5 200 St. Francis of Assisi

5 Jondan Salvador 6-3 210 De La Salle University

8 Mark Yee 6-3 180 San Sebastian College-Cavite

18 Jerwin Gaco 6-3 180 De La Salle University

6 Rogemar Menor 6-2 210 San Beda College

71 Ronald Tubid 6-1 175 University of the East

14 Mark Cardona 6-1 175 De La Salle University

32 Dennis Miranda 6-0 180 Far Eastern University

19 Wynne Arboleda 5-11 180 Manuel L. Quezon College

16 John Raymundo 5-10 170 San Sebastian College


Sonny Jaworski (head coach) Yeng Guiao (Assistant Coach)

Ato Tolentino (Consultant)

Rudy Distrito and Onchie dela Cruz - advisers

FIBA-Asia-UFC

 

[yesha_242]

I'll go for:

88 Mick Pennisi 6-9 235 Eastern Michigan University

43 Alex Crisano 6-7 240 Brooklyn College

30 Beau Belga 6-6 225 Philippine Christian University

48 JR Quiñahan 6-6 200 University of Visayas

26 Ariel Mepaña 6-5 215 University of Visayas

15 Gilbert Bulawan 6-5 195 San Sebastian College

33 Ranidel de Ocampo 6-5 200 St. Francis of Assisi

5 Jondan Salvador 6-3 210 De La Salle University

8 Mark Yee 6-3 180 San Sebastian College-Cavite

18 Jerwin Gaco 6-3 180 De La Salle University

6 Rogemar Menor 6-2 210 San Beda College

71 Ronald Tubid 6-1 175 University of the East

14 Mark Cardona 6-1 175 De La Salle University

32 Dennis Miranda 6-0 180 Far Eastern University

19 Wynne Arboleda 5-11 180 Manuel L. Quezon College

16 John Raymundo 5-10 170 San Sebastian College


Sonny Jaworski (head coach) Yeng Guiao (Assistant Coach)

Ato Tolentino (Consultant)

Rudy Distrito and Onchie dela Cruz - advisers

cant believe quinahan is only 200! tabang hangin lang pala LOL

 

[analyzed2]

Wasn't Dennis Espino known also for his sneaky dirty moves, (i remember him punching a Japanese players) . If its worth anything the guys in the 80's would laugh at how un physical the game is today. Nothing compared to how it used to be