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slice me nice2
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Dutch team did a good job in first game but against Macedonia, the team couldn't keep their momentum. Slovenia have started to play their game and Netherlands shouldn't be a threat since they are kinda broken.
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Joško Poljak Fan2
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Zdovc was quite harsh on the team in the last 2 days, not satisfied at all considering the mistakes they've been doing on court. Publicly called out Zoran to play for the team instead of himself and he was visibly pissed during the game against Georgia. So basicaly we're in the stage when the coach is dissing the whole team already, should be enough to avoid underestimation of the Dutch.
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ncjazz2
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I noticed Dragic did not play to much in last game while Prepelic and Klobucar starred for them. They will need Dragic and help from the big men to make top 7. Wonder if Goran will kick himself if they finish 8th?
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christodoulou762
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NED hasn't scored yet after 5 mins.
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christodoulou762
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NED great Q3. Prepelic hit a circus 3-pointer at the buzzer to finish the quarter.
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christodoulou762
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Kloof is unbelievable in 2nd half!!!!!!!! Rethymno has a great player on their hands.
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Luíz for 32
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I enjoying some much watching this game! Go Netherlands
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christodoulou762
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Agreed. NED is a very entertaining team to watch. And Klobucar, Prepelic, Omic are exciting to watch too.
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Luíz for 32
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I'd add Blažič too.
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christodoulou762
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Yes. His defense has been amazing in the last few minutes.
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christodoulou762
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29 PIR by Kloof so far. 
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tiro12
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Any link for the last minutes?
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Luíz for 32
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The dutch (especially Kloof) have the merit to have brought all the slovenians (bad) temper to the game. They are nervous!
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christodoulou762
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Luíz for 32
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What is van Helfteren expecting from a zone defense in the last 2min?
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christodoulou762
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I picked SLO by 3 so of course the score gets away from NED at the end to make it 7. My prediction game record is woeful. 
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MZT Skopje2
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Good match by Holland. That 3 pointer by Dragic in the final minute won it.
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Joško Poljak Fan2
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I'd say on the contrary, Slo players were surprisingly calm this game judging by their body-language, that's the reason they've won imo.
Exceptions Slokar and Zagorac.
As ussual they can't live without those nuances going wrong in defense and some unnecesary fouls (as CoachZ will say "hands, true but also some others), to make their lives a bit more miserable than it could be, Blažič needs some downs for every "up" which is just as ussual and Omić has troubles playing well against teams that are by his opinion not worth it, which in the past season for Olimpija translated in few great some average and a lot of miserable games. Whenever you believe this guy is good, remember at that.
Zone defense at the start of the second half got them out of rythm and Slo was visibly uncomfortable shooting all those threes, however with the defenders closer towards to the paint to kill the penetrations there wasn't much else to do there. Zagorac wasn't himself as ussualy those shots of his are going in, Balažič had an off night and Slokar still didn't get into rythm after that ankle injury, hopefully they'll get their ussual shot back when it'll matter as I really don't think with those 3 playing zone against Slovenia is he way to go.
While I am uncomfortable by some of their reactions to pressure and physical play, which I did expect before the championship and those mistakes repeating itself, that will obviously prevent this team from some bigger achievement this tournament, I liked their in game response every time Dutch tied the game or when they came close, pushing the score back to +7-10, the way I was actualy calmer in this game than against Georgia, they seemed confident in their abilities.
Slovenian players obviously know what they're doing wrong, the question is if they're actually able to fix that.
Dutch played relaxed through the game and have shown their worth, Kloopf has been a killer even against Klobučar and Blažič actualy playing some good agressive D, but lacked help down low on some occasions when it mattered. I also liked what the Dutch have done from the tactical point of view, closing the penetrations yet being there for decently defended 3pointers and encouraged either a 3pointer or back to back game in the paint. Will be interesting to see if they adapt that philosophy vs. Greeks as Koufos and Bourousis unlike Omić have skills to repeatedly score down low.
Good show by the Dutch this tournament, I'm glad they have shown they are not to be underestimated, sadly I don't think they could upset either Greece or Croatia to qualify to group of 16.
Exceptions Slokar and Zagorac.
As ussual they can't live without those nuances going wrong in defense and some unnecesary fouls (as CoachZ will say "hands, true but also some others), to make their lives a bit more miserable than it could be, Blažič needs some downs for every "up" which is just as ussual and Omić has troubles playing well against teams that are by his opinion not worth it, which in the past season for Olimpija translated in few great some average and a lot of miserable games. Whenever you believe this guy is good, remember at that.
Zone defense at the start of the second half got them out of rythm and Slo was visibly uncomfortable shooting all those threes, however with the defenders closer towards to the paint to kill the penetrations there wasn't much else to do there. Zagorac wasn't himself as ussualy those shots of his are going in, Balažič had an off night and Slokar still didn't get into rythm after that ankle injury, hopefully they'll get their ussual shot back when it'll matter as I really don't think with those 3 playing zone against Slovenia is he way to go.
While I am uncomfortable by some of their reactions to pressure and physical play, which I did expect before the championship and those mistakes repeating itself, that will obviously prevent this team from some bigger achievement this tournament, I liked their in game response every time Dutch tied the game or when they came close, pushing the score back to +7-10, the way I was actualy calmer in this game than against Georgia, they seemed confident in their abilities.
Slovenian players obviously know what they're doing wrong, the question is if they're actually able to fix that.
Dutch played relaxed through the game and have shown their worth, Kloopf has been a killer even against Klobučar and Blažič actualy playing some good agressive D, but lacked help down low on some occasions when it mattered. I also liked what the Dutch have done from the tactical point of view, closing the penetrations yet being there for decently defended 3pointers and encouraged either a 3pointer or back to back game in the paint. Will be interesting to see if they adapt that philosophy vs. Greeks as Koufos and Bourousis unlike Omić have skills to repeatedly score down low.
Good show by the Dutch this tournament, I'm glad they have shown they are not to be underestimated, sadly I don't think they could upset either Greece or Croatia to qualify to group of 16.
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CoachZ2
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In general, I loved the hustle that Slovenia showed in the game but as you mentioned, something has to be done about that defense. I didn't want to make any conclusions until I've seen you play in Zdovc's system several games, but if you are going to try and be so aggressive on D and try to disrupt offenses, you must stop using hands in such a way. For example you make a lot of good fouls as a disruption and like to send people to the free throw line etc and provoke offenses to take lower-percentage shots in general. That is great. On the other hand, you hit foul trouble too much, and bonus in fouls (especially with a weak big rotation) and you average 7-8 ridiculous fouls per game that should've never been committed have you not been using hands so much.
In general I would understand if you were an extremely heavy zone D team that has a lot of length, but that's just not the case. This will create huge problems for you with quick teams, that will push the tempo and penetrate, just to get you in foul trouble.
In general I would understand if you were an extremely heavy zone D team that has a lot of length, but that's just not the case. This will create huge problems for you with quick teams, that will push the tempo and penetrate, just to get you in foul trouble.
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Joško Poljak Fan2
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I agree. It's hurting us more than we could potentialy benefit from it disturbing the offense or stealing the ball.
On average there are 2 fouls per game commited on the offensive rebounding, at least 2 too eagerly stopping the semi-fast break (prefer more of those compared to not enough of them, but nevertheless Slo could/should be smarter there - Zdovc however is a sure thing-er), 2 fouls in a clumsy manner and some of those being too weak ending with 2+1. I got a feeling they actualy have an arrangement to foul when Balažič gets in a position defending an inside game - and that is definately disturbing to me.
I'd understand some of the players, however not that many. Yeah, it's hurting us a lot. Aprox 10 points per game in the last 2 games get achieved from unnecesary fouls when in bonus. Hopefully they'll decrease those with the following games, although I'm not too optimistic on that.
On average there are 2 fouls per game commited on the offensive rebounding, at least 2 too eagerly stopping the semi-fast break (prefer more of those compared to not enough of them, but nevertheless Slo could/should be smarter there - Zdovc however is a sure thing-er), 2 fouls in a clumsy manner and some of those being too weak ending with 2+1. I got a feeling they actualy have an arrangement to foul when Balažič gets in a position defending an inside game - and that is definately disturbing to me.
I'd understand some of the players, however not that many. Yeah, it's hurting us a lot. Aprox 10 points per game in the last 2 games get achieved from unnecesary fouls when in bonus. Hopefully they'll decrease those with the following games, although I'm not too optimistic on that.