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Quarterfinals: (2) Philippines vs (3) Chinese Taipei

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Quarterfinals: (2) Philippines vs (3) Chinese Taipei

  • Philippines

    Votes: 61 85.9%

  • Chinese Taipei

    Votes: 10 14.1%
  • Total voters
    71
  • Poll closed .
Yes, ranking is NOT based solely on which team we can beat.

It ONLY counts major FIBA Tournaments. Those tournaments you say where we beat them? They don't count in the rankings.

Here's a how it works:http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/even/rank/p/openNodeIDs/998/selNodeID/998/howItWork.html

Ranking is computed on a four year cycle so our suspension and the PBA selection's poor finishes during the 2007 and 2009 editions didn't help us any.

And for years, the former-BAP sent teams like the Pasig Pirates or some last minute team to major tournaments, causing us dearly in the rankings.

In the 90s, when we were among the best teams in the ASIAN GAMES? Well the Asian Games don't count either. WHich is why I always wondered why the PBA sent the best teams there and not the ABC (Now known as FIBA ASIA) tournaments.

That is why our ranking is so low.

And that is why teams like India, a team which even some teams in the college leagues can compete against and beat regularly, rank higher than us. (India NT vs ATENEO BLUE EAGLES or FEU TAMS?)

If we had been taking basketball seriously instead of all the politics and last minute assembled teams, our natural ranking would put us ahead of Chinese Taipei, Qatar and Kazahkstan, and around the same vicinity as Lebanon, Japan and Jordan (even if we beat them). We'd be below China, Iran, Korea...

But no one will acknowledge that unless we prove it on the court. And unless we send our BEST team regularly. It won't happen.

We need to shape up. As recent as 2002, we would routinely beat Qatar, Taipei, Iran, and other teams when we sent last minute formed PBA teams. Those PBA All-Star teams were great scorers but embarrassing on team defense.

And there was Coach Yeng Guiao's anti-jimmy Alapag policy because of the friction between them which kept our best PG out of the team. And Yeng being totally unprepared.

We're not there yet. We still have college and pro teams REFUSING to lend us their players. Greg Slaughter? Junmar Fajardo? We could have a 7 footer and a 6'11 guy on our frontline. Remember when Paul Lee (best guard in the amateurs) and Rico Maierhoffer (lock down defender) both turned down Smart Gilas? Or recently, when Dondon Hontiveros backed out mysteriously from the team only to be revealed that he had been traded back to San Miguel. One of the teams who DON'T want to lend players to the national team.

Back in the 90s, during the ABC days, some Asian teams and players used to ask before each tournament (Are the PBA players playing? And if not, they would relax. Back then, we were STILL feared. Now, everyone has caught up.)
 
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if i were BAP, im gonna send japeth, junmar, greg and other big man prospects to training camps in states or europe... same with marcio, lutz and norwood...

they shouldnt be playing in the pba... look at norwood, he never developed... he even became an inconsistent shooter... norwood at 6'5/ 6'6 is an able defender and point guard.... with his size and athletecism, he can post up smaller guards in the pba and even in asia but he never developed a post game... a 6'6 pointguard can definitely create favorable mismatches for us...

japeth on the other hand, regressed so much... he cant even make a simple pivot move at the post to create a shot for himself... however, the 6'4-6'5 slow, fat jordanian center (forgot the name) can make pivot moves at the post with ease... he even schooled japeth with that move during the jor-phils game... japeth only knows 1 shot, the dunk shot...

sometimes its not about the height really... there are only few gifted 7 footers in asia... the rest of the 7 footers of iran, china and korea are mechanical and robotic already and arent as quick and creative... sometimes its all about dedication and competitiveness.. when i look at japeth and norwood, i see wasted talents... they would choose the pba coz there's bigger money there and they dont have to push themselves to the limit coz the competition isnt as tough...

sigh, the possibilities...
 
psychopath said:
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japeth on the other hand, regressed so much... he cant even make a pivot move at the post to create a shot for himself... however, the 6'4-6'5 jordanian slow, fat center (forgot the name) can make pivot moves at the post with ease... he even schooled japeth with that move during the jor-phils game... japeth only knows 1 shot, the dunk shot...
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Link please?:confused:
 
easy win tonight, RP + 10 to 15 points. :)

and to some posters who think i am a philipino chinese, no i am not, so that so called crab mentality does not apply on me. :cool:
I only reflect what i observe, cold truth that is, if you dont like it, blame it on your team, again, the winning steaks of RP will stop after the Chinese Taipei Match. RP will finish as 4th place:)
 
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if we put a serious-game face against them for 40 minutes, PHL will have not any trouble in defeating Taiwan. i expect them to beat these guys by 20+ points.

however, if we play like against Syria and Bahrain, we might have a trouble but we shall still win but with a smaller margin, probably between 5-10 points.

GO GILAS! WE CAN DO THIS!
 
crouchingtiger said:
easy win tonight, RP + 10 to 15 points. :)

and to some posters who think i am a philipino chinese, no i am not, so that so called crab mentality does not apply on me. :cool:
I only reflect what i observe, cold truth that is, if you dont like it, blame it on your team, again, the winning steaks of RP will stop after the Chinese Taipei Match.
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As negative as you are, you are an honorary Filipino in my book :D
 
Don't worry when the next rankings come out, we should be ahead of Tiapei, due to Gilas perfomance in the Stankovic cup (4th place) and Asian games (5th) plus a likely semis stint in this years FIBA asia


RoadtoLondon said:
we've been absent at international tournament for quite a while due to the suspension...and we rank 8 or 9 correct me if I'm wrong on the last Fiba Asia while the TPE ranked 5.
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the taiwanese may be ranked higher than us, but everybody knows, even the taiwan players, that when we send a well prepared and strong team, they are in for some schooling...

phils 10+
 
crouchingtiger said:
easy win tonight, RP + 10 to 15 points. :)

and to some posters who think i am a philipino chinese, no i am not, so that so called crab mentality does not apply on me. :cool:
I only reflect what i observe, cold truth that is, if you dont like it, blame it on your team, again, the winning steaks of RP will stop after the Chinese Taipei Match. RP will finish as 4th place:)
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Ok Crab Mentality does not apply to you...i think you are HATER...all of your observations is pessimistic about the PHIL NT...

...and by the way you don't reflect on your observation...good observer doesn't judge until proven... unlike you!
 
analyzed said:
Don't worry when the next rankings come out, we should be ahead of Tiapei, due to Gilas perfomance in the Stankovic cup (4th place) and Asian games (5th) plus a likely semis stint in this years FIBA asia
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Those tournaments don't count in FIBA rankings. Yes, even Stankovic Cup.
 
anyone who saw the Jones Cup would know the only reason why Chinese Taipei were good was because they had a gazillion free throw attempts with all those phantom foul calls. we did beat them despite that. they're playing in the mainland this time.
 
GILAS will win it against CT be 20+ points..
such will be confidence booster for the semis.
 
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