Preparation Games for Eurobasket 2011

[Picek2]

I really missed your totally unbiased comments on germany! I really did!

I know.. I simplys couldn't resist..
great home refereeing helped them out considering they were building a new hall with their brick session..
what is even worse at least previous german teams had Femerling, Green etc. this one is pathetic..
and Sven Schultze is the biggest candidate for MIP award..
MIP meaning "most irritating player"..
well, atleast I know who I will be cheering against on this EC..

 

[OrgoglioSlavo2]

I know.. I simplys couldn't resist..
great home refereeing helped them out considering they were building a new hall with their brick session..
what is even worse at least previous german teams had Femerling, Green etc. this one is pathetic..
and Sven Schultze is the biggest candidate for MIP award..
MIP meaning "most irritating player"..
well, atleast I know who I will be cheering against on this EC..

thank god , someone who is speaking the truth about useless germany!!

 

[Fearless2]

I know.. I simplys couldn't resist..

well, atleast I know who I will be cheering against on this EC..

like you had any doubt even before

thank god , someone who is speaking the truth about useless germany!!

you should really stop making those boomerang comments. They might just come back to hit you in the back of your head..

 

[baelor2]

like you had any doubt even before



you should really stop making those boomerang comments. They might just come back to hit you in the back of your head..

so, as we see from this thread: some croatians hate italy NT, some of them hate germany NT, most of them hate serbs and slovenians, one of them hates lithuania, one has doubts about France....

lots of hate for one small country

 

[euskadi2]

so, as we see from this thread: some croatians hate italy NT, some of them hate germany NT, most of them hate serbs and slovenians, one of them hates lithuania, one has doubts about France....

lots of hate for one small country

well, silvio put croatia on 16. place. for sure he hate croatia

he hate them all he is not relevant

 

[TB-Fan2]

Turkey: 74- Montenegro: 72

Ilyasova and Arslan rested for Turkey, Pekovic for Montenegro.

Turkey: Kanter 13 Pts, 8 Rebs ; Akyol 11 Pts, Savas 12 Pts

Montenegro: Vucevic 14 Pts, 7 Rebs; Dasic 15 Pts, 8 Rebs; Bjelica 13 Pts.

 

[pivx2]

Germany has some good players beside Kaman and Nowitzki but if you compare them with players of other medal contender teams (Serbia, France, Slovenia, Russia, Turkey....) they are rubbish. (But then again i said that many times before and got burned)

I don't know why people rank Croatia so low. I think that they will be in at least top 8. In fact there will be a big surprise if they don't make it to the qfinals. There are only 4 strong teams in group F (Slovenia, Russia, Greece and Croatia).

Montenegro has some good individuals but not enough to beat Croatia in qfinals spot.

But for all teams in group F it will be very difficult to make it to the semis. Only chance for us is that they will be exhausted from group games. Slovenia on the other hand will be resting their top players for the first week of the competition. Games against Russia, and in second part against Greece and Croatia will be just enough to warm up before the qfinals.

My prediction

Lithuania Slovenia
Spain Russia
Serbia Croatia
Turkey Greece

semis
Lithuania
Spain
Russia
Slovenia

After that anything is possible but i think that the Lithuania will be the champion.

 

[barchen2]

is there any boxscore for BELGIUM - BOSNIA game?
http://belgianlions.com/index.php/news/nederlands/620-belgian-lions-winnen-van-bosnie

i have just this... but i need complete boxscore...

 

[wardjdim2]

Hervelle injured in the 2nd possession of the France-Belgium friendly

Looks serious. He can't press his leg on the floor at all

 

[Silvio2]

On the last QT, France had tested their offensive plays for the big guys. Noah, Seraphin, Pietrus got a lot of balls, but they can't manage to score efficiency (they are not very good offensive players). I think France won't test their offensive plays for big guys like that during a so long time at the eurobasket.

France had already play with a lot of defensive specialists during last QT against Serbia to train them to offensive plays, this didn't work well too, the Serbia lost only by 3 after being dominated by 20.

For me, the last QT of those game were just offense training for the non-offensive specialist players.

Why testing something when it's sure what outcome will be?

It's like if I'd threw 10 kilos weight lifting plate through my window - just to check if gravity works today. Then it falls on someone's head ... oops, I'm in trouble.

In fact, it's bigger chance gravity to disappear than those French bangers to learn how to play offense.

 

[mbenga2]

Germany has some good players beside Kaman and Nowitzki but if you compare them with players of other medal contender teams (Serbia, France, Slovenia, Russia, Turkey....) they are rubbish. (But then again i said that many times before and got burned)

Right, but this is the most talented team assembled by Germany in the Nowitzki era. That doesn't mean anything though, they'll still need some heroics from Dirk as usual just to reach the QF.

 

[Miškinis2]

Latvia vs. Great Britain 74:51 (15:13, 23:13, 18:15, 18:10)

 

[Migelitas2]

Latvia vs. Great Britain 74:51 (15:13, 23:13, 18:15, 18:10)

Stats:
http://www1.basket.lv/plain/online/27001049

 

[aspsgge2]

Why testing something when it's sure what outcome will be?

It's like if I'd threw 10 kilos weight lifting plate through my window - just to check if gravity works today. Then it falls on someone's head ... oops, I'm in trouble.

In fact, it's bigger chance gravity to disappear than those French bangers to learn how to play offense.

You're right! Why let the substitutes playing the game? France will have to play with just 5 players to train them offensively and defensively. The substitutes don't have to know the offensive and defensive tactics.
Last quarter againt Belgium, 5 defensives players: some good offensive movements and good defense...

France wins 74-44 against Belgium. I've heard that Hervelle should have injury his cruciate ligaments of his left knee... Bad news for them.

 

[KWSN-Men2]

Latvia vs. Great Britain 74:51 (15:13, 23:13, 18:15, 18:10)

So much for NBA stars making the difference for GB.

 

[Silvio2]

You're right! Why let the substitutes playing the game? France will have to play with just 5 players to train them offensively and defensively. The substitutes don't have to know the offensive and defensive tactics.
Last quarter againt Belgium, 5 defensives players: some good offensive movements and good defense...

France wins 74-44 against Belgium. I've heard that Hervelle should have injury his cruciate ligaments of his left knee... Bad news for them.

1) Why put all Parker / Diaw / de Colo on bench, and put on floor 5 players that can't create at all. It will never happen in official game ... it is suicidal (though as far as I'm concerned Collet is welcomed to do so). Why test something that will never happen in official game?

2) Why test it again, when it failed miserably versus Serbia? Serbian bench against French bench turned -20 into +1.

3) Why test it at all, when even blind man can see it must fail? That is my analogy with gravity. Really no need to check each morning if gravity is still there.

 

[Silvio2]

So much for NBA stars making the difference for GB.

What NBA stars? Only Luol Deng is from NBA. Brits have 4 guys from U20 on roster, van Oostrum and some guys from NCAA. Some guys play in ACB (Freeland, Archibald ...) and some in British League.

Basketball is not your sport obviously. You know nothing about 23 of 24 national teams at Eurobasket. You better try watching some other sport.

 

[aspsgge2]

Because it's a test of offensive tactics. On the floor, their is 1 PG, 1 SG, 1 SF, 1 PF, 1 C. The PG have to pass the ball to the SF with a screen of the PF etc...
What does matter if the PG is Parker or Albicy? The offensive play is the same.

So, for you, it's better to have 4 starting players and just 1 substitute which train his offensive play during 2 minutes, then he will be substitute by an another substitute which train his offensive play during 2 minutes etc... ????

Each substitute can train tactics during a more long time.

Collet didn't test the association of players ... He knows what association of players will work...
At the half time against Belgium, he says that the substitute will play a lot during 4QT to train tactics againt 2-3 zone.

It's preparation game, so they prepare their tactics. The score doesn't matter. France could win by 40 or 50 with more playing time for Parker, Batum, Diaw, Noah and the good association of player.

 

[Silvio2]

Because it's a test of offensive tactics. On the floor, their is 1 PG, 1 SG, 1 SF, 1 PF, 1 C. The PG have to pass the ball to the SF with a screen of the PF etc...
What does matter if the PG is Parker or Albicy? The offensive play is the same.

So, for you, it's better to have 4 starting players and just 1 substitute which train his offensive play during 2 minutes, then he will be substitute by an another substitute which train his offensive play during 2 minutes etc... ????

Each substitute can train tactics during a more long time.

Collet didn't test the association of players ... He knows what association of players will work...
At the half time against Belgium, he says that the substitute will play a lot during 4QT to train tactics againt 2-3 zone.

It's preparation game, so they prepare their tactics. The score doesn't matter. France could win by 40 or 50 with more playing time for Parker, Batum, Diaw, Noah and the good association of player.

It is not about nailing bench players to bench. Yes, they might play 10 minutes in official game and it is OK they play even 20 minutes in friendly game. It is not about winning by 40 points, 4 or 40 is the same in official or friendly game.
It is about french basketball that has many good defensive specialists and only few skillful players. So it is stupid to put all skilled players at bench in same moment.
- those bangers without help of Parker and Diaw don't know what to do with strange round object in their hands, it makes them look funny and kind of humiliated
- it is meaningless test because something like that won't happen in official game as it is simply suicidal - proved by Serbian bench destroying 5 french bangers in few minutes for 20 points difference

 

[KWSN-Men2]

What NBA stars? Only Luol Deng is from NBA. Brits have 4 guys from U20 on roster, van Oostrum and some guys from NCAA. Some guys play in ACB (Freeland, Archibald ...) and some in British League.

Basketball is not your sport obviously. You know nothing about 23 of 24 national teams at Eurobasket. You better try watching some other sport.

Yes, you're right...

Man, you make me laugh...