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Of course they canceled. Remember what happened last year with Serbia. Greeks are terrible hosts...
Of course they canceled. Remember what happened last year with Serbia. Greeks are terrible hosts...
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Red 72
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We are actually pretty good at hosting basketball tournaments... ask anyone
The fight between Serbia and Greece last year was an Olympiacos vs. Panathinaikos thing....
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banou72
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They didn't cancel. They had already made their plans about their preperation.
I guess you are being ironic about hosting... Greeks are the best hosts. Any wonder why the Serb referee Belosevic is joining Acropolis tournament?
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euskadi2
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so what if i am croat. even better. i could be realistic. tunceri, arslan, bialby, guler, onan, akyol, preldzic, savas and erden are average players and nothing more. since turkoglu and ilyasova are totaly out of form i would bet that this team would not be in 2. round.
do you even know what are turkish places in last couple eurobasket: 12., 9., 11. and 8. i don't know what are elite teams, but turkish are average.
or if you want turkish clubs results. for example fenerbahce before croats was one of worst euroleague clubs. even with onan, preldzic, erden, savas and asik their regular sesion resultat was 3-7. efes players was constant failers.
only huge tournament of turkoglu can avoid debacle. and i am afraid that he is to old.since there's no home court and referee advantage
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Silvio2
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That FIBA-something user talking a lot of crap as usual.
But he spotted one thing well. Ilyasova is usually too passive in offense. Teams scouted it well and they cut off him of ball effectively with not much of effort - at least not so much effort that is usually needed to practically put opponents star player out of offense. I'm talking about official games last few summers, not this preparation worthless games.
Ilyasova waits too much game to come to him, while he should be more aggresive. Teammates and coach were not helping as Tanjevic was fine with that, his philosophy was "if opponent stucks in defense on one side, then there should be space on other". I don't agree with it, because when Ilyasova is "in the zone", he can kill any defense in the world, there should be more actions designed for him. Perhaps Tanjevic thought Ilyasova and especially Turkoglu shoot too much anyway, so he let the things even a bit, other players may got out of rhythm if those two are taking each damn shot.
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I generally don't respond to biased posts but I'm not gonna let you bash our players just because they are not having a shiny preparation period.
Tunceri is a great pg. he is now getting older but still I can't think of someone in europe that I would want to be in my team instead of him.
Emir is a young player with amazing talents. He can play 1-4 and he is damn good.
And Onan is a true killer in fast breaks. Once the team gains momentum, he always hits the final punches. Also a decent 3 pointer.
yes oguz and akyol are average but what team doesn't have average kids? They are needed.
Even thinking that we have players like Omer Asik, Enes Kanter, Semih Erden etc is a true joy. Especially watching Enes growing his talents in last prep games made us really happy. That kid is gonna be a huge domination. Not yet but will be there quite fast.
Finally you pointed out all the bad results turkey gained but I'd like to remind you that Turkey ranks #6 in the whole world. And has 2 silver medals( ok I know what you are gonna say here, at home, so dont bother).
We never claim to have the best team, we still have a lot of things to fix. but our talents and potential is someting giving us hope and courage.
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Sure...remember the Olympics?
Oh my god the horror...
Yeah, I remember the Olympics. Worst Olympics since WW1
Deadline breaks, swimming pool without roof (I mean WTF)... Olympic games 2004 - Greece
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inefeswetrust2
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well if you think onan, balbay, tunceri and asik are average players, i have nothing more to say.. apparently we live in parallel universes.
and go watch those tournaments again, especially eurobasket 2009 and wc 2006 to see how did turkey play and lose, results don t make that much sense generally.. if you wanna see a real average team, look for your own NT.
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Yeah, I remember the Olympics. Worst Olympics since WW1
Deadline breaks, swimming pool without roof (I mean WTF)... Olympic games 2004 - Greece
Vancouver?
Took late February time slot to avoid NFL playoffs. Result? Games in the middle of most rainy month in British Columbia, No snow, but lot of rain, really lot of. Half of alpine skiing events canceled, other half run in irregular conditions. In fact, not only for alpine skiing - in most of interesting disciplines lighter weighted participants had unfair advantage because of muddy conditions (cross country skiing, bobsled, luge, skeleton)
Slovenian cross-country skier Majdic falling in giant hole on track.
Ice melting in the middle of ice hockey games and other indoors events on ice.
Total chaos in organization (transport chaos, hospitality 0/10, professionalism 0/10)
Vancouver - the worst organized sports event of 21st century. There's 89 years more, but no way someone can beat them.
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SaliH2
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Arslan and Savas - out of Turkey's national team! 
PS What a play from Emir.
PS What a play from Emir.
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OrgoglioSlavo2
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gallinari cannot be marked at this level...he will be mvp tournament if italy get to quarters...he is unmarkable...italy playing great against greece for all the haters...l'italia e' tornata whether you like it or not!
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Arslan and Savas - out of Turkey's national team!
PS What a play from Emir.
While Savas was in we have been beaten badly. But then he is out and suddenly we are 8 points ahaed by the end of the first half. The seconds he plays can be much more valuable with Enes.
Wait, am I beeing too harsh?
btw Turkey is doing much better, 26 points in 10 minutes. we are getting there!
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turk-jugoslav2
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Nikola Vucevic's fundamentals look great.Eurobasket 2011 will be great experience for him to be ready for NBA.He scored 10 or 12 points against us in the first half but don't forget,He matched-up with Oğuz Savaş who is the worst defender of Europe
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Greek green bastards
Caja Laboral asked you Nick Calathes for Logan. Why do you have to keep him?
Bring him over, this kid has game
Caja Laboral asked you Nick Calathes for Logan. Why do you have to keep him?
Bring him over, this kid has game
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Jon_Koncak2
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Greece started rolling once Zisis sat on the bench.He is complete garbage,how he is targetted by big euroleague clubs is one of the biggest mysteries.
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SaliH2
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While Savas was in we have been beaten badly. But then he is out and suddenly we are 8 points ahaed by the end of the first half. The seconds he plays can be much more valuable with Enes.
Wait, am I beeing too harsh?
btw Turkey is doing much better, 26 points in 10 minutes. we are getting there!
+1 You're not harsh. you're saying the things right as they are.
And we're doing better, compared to the 38pts in 40min against Hellas.
edit: What a block, Asik and destroy!
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KWSN-Men2
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I vote for his manager to be named the best manager in Europe.
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OrgoglioSlavo2
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italys main problem is making belinelli, however talented he is, realize he is not even the 3rd offensive weapon...too much nba stuff, greece have taken lead thanks to him..the other two also play in nba so wh can they be team players, and he not...very strange...good sign bargnani going to basket...guys im sorry i disagree i really like zisis as a player, why do all greeks dislike him...unlike spanoulis he has not abandoned his country under strange circumstances..hes always been there...steady player, a top back up point guad at highest euroleague level as he was in moscow, treviso and now siena, olympiacos will be lucky to get him
English please
JPF
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