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Players that we can have naturalized

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Basta with Green level there will be a way of getting a Philippine passport not thru Congress (kahit 4th generation away yung legal citizenship)
Pag lower level, wala wala

Really no legal difference from Green with a person of suspected ounce of heritage roots to Pacific Islands

Let's be real, it is what it is.
 
Gilas is probably his second option if he isn’t called up in the future by Team USA

Obviously. Kumbaga we are assurance option.

Harden,Liliard,Booker, Butler,Thompson, Beal, Middleton, Oladipo, Mitchell( These are only SGs, no combo guards yet)

Usa Sppt is harder to crack. Especially Jalen will still be a sophomore nba by then.


Atleast in Gilas, he is one of the alpha right away
 
Risky????

They will just take a picture of their passports in their private camera or cellphones. Of course they will do that privately in their house.

JC,Remy, and Roberts are claiming to loss their passports. And of course cannot remeber the passport number.
Atleast if they have a photo. They know their passport number. And can just simply go to dfa to retrieve it

and to show the full details and passport number?

yep that’s risky.. i won’t even dare post mine..

where’s the privacy for that?

what if they lost their phone? and some scammers use it?

think about it..
 
Another option, if Jalen Green is not available


Ron Harper Jr.

6'6, 245 lbs. currently a junior

I think passport will not be an issue. No need for naturalization.

Ideal Scenario: Jordan Clarkson and Remy Martin will be recognized as local players.

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Question , remember the Fil sham thing, where we had Sonny Alvarado, and Parker (?) ba and others , my question is this , did those guys get a Philippine passport? now let's assume wala talagang pinoy blood yun, the question then is how did they get a Philippine passport ? u see there is some kind of doctor magic going on lol.. but the point here is this, if someone in anyway has suspected of being able to pass of ounce of Filipino blood , eh di let the authorities make doctor magic.. in other words they're naturalized ( and don't pass through congress

No they didnt need to apply for a filipino passport to get in the PBA. If I remember correctly all they needed was to present his own birth certificate and also of their supposed filipino parent proving that the parent was still a filipino at the time of the player's birth. Those kinds of documents were more easier to forge than going through the hassle of getting an actual passport. That was enough for the PBA. And take note this was also one of the ways the PBA had to implement to regain their dying popularity and to fight off the rising threat of the MBA at the time. They were desperate and this was a quick and easy fix. Too bad it backfired a bit because of the senate investigations.

Sorry for the necro post..LOL!
 
if in case he won't play for USA basketball, he'd be a great combo forward. Plus we could get to have Shaq cheer for the national team.

 
if in case he won't play for USA basketball, he'd be a great combo forward. Plus we could get to have Shaq cheer for the national team.


Bro, are you serious right now? I'd rather develop Kobe and Dwight than get Shareef as the naturalize player
 
Bro, are you serious right now? I'd rather develop Kobe and Dwight than get Shareef as the naturalize player

The kid is like a younger version of Chris McCoullough.Athletic and long although a bit shorter than Chris at 6'8 and could play either forward position.I think he's pretty young, he's at the same batch as AJ Edu.
 
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Once Ange is naturalized, Ange can play in the UAAP as a local and Ateneo can get another FSA.

Too bad the PBA discriminates against fellow Filipino citizens. If someone were brave enough to take the PBA and the MPBL to court, these discriminatory practices would end.

mas maganda kung sa FIBA, although it may be a bit of a long shot, but like what I said on the other post, i see no harm in trying.All they need to show is that Ange applied and was granted Refugee status.I won't elaborate from here (OPSEC kung baga). Just Imagine Kai,AJ and Ange (or even if AJ or Kai is unavailable,we could still have Ange) plus we could get another naturalized player. For me, that's more exciting than a UAAP dream team.
 
mas maganda kung sa FIBA, although it may be a bit of a long shot, but like what I said on the other post, i see no harm in trying.All they need to show is that Ange applied and was granted Refugee status.I won't elaborate from here (OPSEC kung baga). Just Imagine Kai,AJ and Ange (or even if AJ or Kai is unavailable,we could still have Ange) plus we could get another naturalized player. For me, that's more exciting than a UAAP dream team.

With Jawato Case

Koume has more shot to be a local than Clarkson. LOL.

This Fiba ruling really complicates things
 
With Jawato Case

Koume has more shot to be a local than Clarkson. LOL.

This Fiba ruling really complicates things

i don't think the Jawato case has something to do with Kuoame's case.Kuoame's case in my opinion should be a different one. Pero right now, mukhang malabo because they did not go that route, which is understandable as well.I woud not like to elaborate because other nationalities might think we are cheating whereas we are only following FIBA's rules/guidelines.

 
Hmmmm.

Maybe.

But actually we have a lot of players with similar case with Jawato
 
Hmmmm.

Maybe.

But actually we have a lot of players with similar case with Jawato

Exemption to the Hagop Rule is based on Secretary-General’s prerogative. When Slaughter was approved but Pringle rejected, it was Patrick Baumann who was Sec-Gen. The current one Andreas Zagklis may have a different way of thinking.
 
Exemption to the Hagop Rule is based on Secretary-General’s prerogative. When Slaughter was approved but Pringle rejected, it was Patrick Baumann who was Sec-Gen. The current one Andreas Zagklis may have a different way of thinking.

we cant risk of having too many applications this might construe as abusing the system. we have to thread carefully having the cost and time and effort in mind.
 
and to show the full details and passport number?

yep that’s risky.. i won’t even dare post mine..

where’s the privacy for that?

what if they lost their phone? and some scammers use it?

think about it..

i have a picture of my passport on my phone and use note app to lock it thru encryption. its in icloud as well. heck i even have my cards photo on my phone locked thru encryption as well. been switching phones every two years no issue whatsoever.
 
Exemption to the Hagop Rule is based on Secretary-General’s prerogative. When Slaughter was approved but Pringle rejected, it was Patrick Baumann who was Sec-Gen. The current one Andreas Zagklis may have a different way of thinking.

I have to agree with this one, Pringle has been playing in the Philippines since 2014 whereas, Jawato was still playing for the University of Hawaii. Pringle should have been declared a local for his number of years in the PBA. Ang inaprub yung mas mababang kalidad trans: I think Greg and Pringle should have been approved. I hope Pringle would ask for clearance again.
 
maybe the better option is to get all the ineligibles playing here as soon as possible. make them do a one and done in the uaap to show that they studied here. Get Hepa, Millora-Brown, Harper, and even Remy Martin if they don't get drafted in the NBA.
 
Gilas plea for Clarkson and Co. draws hope from Fiba ruling on Jawato
by RANDOLPH B. LEONGSON
2 HOURS AGO

FIBA allowing Brandon Jawato to suit up for Indonesia offers a glimmer of hope for Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) in its longstanding quest to have a number of Fil-foreign talents be recognized as locals for Gilas Pilipinas.

SBP president Al Panlilio said the federation continues to hold dialogues with Fiba in its bid to scrap its rule requiring athletes to secure their passports by the age of 16 before being eligible to suit up for their respective national teams.

"That has been an issue we've been raising to Fiba," said Panlilio as the SBP stands at the forefront of proposing reforms on those eligibility rules. "We have to have a dialogue with Fiba on what actually happened there and continue to push our case to Fiba."

Jawato, an Indonesian-American forward granted citizenship by Indonesia's Congress back in October, was cleared by Fiba to play for the Garuda as local in the upcoming November window of the 2021 Fiba Asia Cup qualifiers.

The ruling would allow coach Rajko Toroman to pair him with naturalized player Lester Prosper in Indonesia's games in the Manama bubble in Bahrain.

According to Indonesia-based publications, Fiba, in clearing Jawato, considered "several factors that underline this decision, including the status of Jawato's father, who is from Indonesia, his participation in a professional national competition, and the length of time he has lived in Indonesia since 2015."

It's a ruling that could benefit more nations including the Philippines, as proponents like Panlilio continue to ask for the scrapping of the controversial eligibility ruling.

Scrapping the rule will open the doors for Fil-foreigners like Christian Standhardinger, Stanley Pringle, and Mo Tautuaa, who are all categorized as naturalized players in Fiba standards despite having proof of their Filipino citizenship.

Players like Jordan Clarkson and Chris Ross, meanwhile, were able to don the national team colors as the Asian Games and the Southeast Asian Games are both not under the jurisdiction of Fiba, although competition rules depend on the respective host's organizing committees.

"These players are truly Filipinos, and it's just this rule of not having the passport by the age 16 that has been the impediment with that regulation," argued Panlilio.

It's a cause the SBP definitely believes is worth fighting for, but the soft-spoken executive knows that it's still the Fiba Central Board which will have the last say on the matter.

"That's not for me to answer. That's on Fiba," said Panlilio.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/fiba-ruling-indonesian-brandon-jawato-as-a-local-boosts-sbp-s-hopes-of-hagop-rule-scrapping-a2437-20201119?ref=home_featured_big
 
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