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lurklurk
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what if the dad tweets back and asks JC about his fiba eligibility?
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what if the dad tweets back and asks JC about his fiba eligibility?
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Alex07
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lol what if the dad tweets back and asks JC about his fiba eligibility?
thats the effin problem lol let's get Andray Blatche to tweet 'em lol but seriously I think JC can relate to this, and he may be game to this too, the problem is who's going to tweet him lol
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BJ_Reloaded
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This piece of information was actually comes from the late FIBA sec gen Pat Baumann when he had some verbal conversation/meeting with Mr. MVP and it was posted in one of Mr. Henson's column in Philstar.com..because of the merging of Asia and Oceania zone it is only fair and justifiable if those lower seeded teams to send a very respectable line-up and had a fighting chance to be very competitive in any FIBA tournament to make the game more exciting and appealing to the public hence to avoid too many blowout games..the thing here is it must not be conflicting to the existing under 16 rules.
For me personally it's a welcome development if they will consider the suggestion of the late Sec-Gen because each countries has its own Laws related to citizenship. I would mention our own Constitution wherein the so called overseas born players are recognizing them as Filipinos as well and had all the constitutional rights the same with the local born players..Now this is a big challenge to the Technical and Legal Department of FIBA because they don't want this proposed provision(s) being abuse on the long run.
I hope it would push thru 1 Heritage player and 1 Naturalized Player on each team(s) are ain't conflicting to me.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2019/02/26/1896846/case-player-trafficking
For me personally it's a welcome development if they will consider the suggestion of the late Sec-Gen because each countries has its own Laws related to citizenship. I would mention our own Constitution wherein the so called overseas born players are recognizing them as Filipinos as well and had all the constitutional rights the same with the local born players..Now this is a big challenge to the Technical and Legal Department of FIBA because they don't want this proposed provision(s) being abuse on the long run.
I hope it would push thru 1 Heritage player and 1 Naturalized Player on each team(s) are ain't conflicting to me.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2019/02/26/1896846/case-player-trafficking
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mathematicianrcg
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This piece of information was actually comes from the late FIBA sec gen Pat Baumann when he had some verbal conversation/meeting with Mr. MVP and it was posted in one of Mr. Henson's column in Philstar.com..because of the merging of Asia and Oceania zone it is only fair and justifiable if those lower seeded teams to send a very respectable line-up and had a fighting chance to be very competitive in any FIBA tournament to make the game more exciting and appealing to the public hence to avoid too many blowout games..the thing here is it must not be conflicting to the existing under 16 rules.
For me personally it's a welcome development if they will consider the suggestion of the late Sec-Gen because each countries has its own Laws related to citizenship. I would mention our own Constitution wherein the so called overseas born players are recognizing them as Filipinos as well and had all the constitutional rights the same with the local born players..Now this is a big challenge to the Technical and Legal Department of FIBA because they don't want this proposed provision(s) being abuse on the long run.
I hope it would push thru 1 Heritage player and 1 Naturalized Player on each team(s) are ain't conflicting to me.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2019/02/26/1896846/case-player-trafficking
But you said Sir ed francisco of legal commision and the technical commision in drafting this.
So,they revisit this. And talking about this NOW?!!!!
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BJ_Reloaded
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But you said Sir ed francisco of legal commision and the technical commision in drafting this.
So,they revisit this. And talking about this NOW?!!!!
Bro..you forgot the "?" part in the word drafting kindly re read again the posted message...thank you.
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lurklurk
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Bro..you forgot the "?" part in the word drafting kindly re read again the posted message...thank you.
your post was misleading.
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analyzed2
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^^
So status quo is JC is our NP, don't see things changing in the next 2 years.
And will just have to revaluate in late 2022, if it is enough for 2023 (depending on how good Kai and AJ are really)
So status quo is JC is our NP, don't see things changing in the next 2 years.
And will just have to revaluate in late 2022, if it is enough for 2023 (depending on how good Kai and AJ are really)
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BJ_Reloaded
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you're post was misleading.
It ain't misleading..I didn't say that it is 100% confirmed..that is why there is a question on the end of that particular word.
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NOiNU
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^^
The issue a coach is avoiding is cross switching from defense to offense, as JC is our primary perimeter offensive player like MJ whose energy and fouls needs to be saved on defence , you want a Pippen like player alongside him to focus defend the opposing's best perimeter wing scorer, for the rival teams were talking about this is normally the SG, around 6'3 that requires energy to chase.
So what happens in transition is teams are unable in many instances to assign the SG(Webster bros) to our default SF in our case JC, because it is a cross switch.
In essence were using our strength, speed and advantage of two interchangeable players like JC and Dwight/Parks at the 2/3 position which is really essential.
Our problem before is we only have 1 of them Norwood on the court with the other being like Chan, or even Castro /Romeo, which is too small
BTW PG who is around 6ish and a good defender is also key, to increasing the competivness with all around length
What makes JC our default SF when paired with either Parks or Dwight? Even this post of yours supports JC to be the 2 in such lineup. Arguments like best wing scorer normally being the 2 (that’s gotta be Clarkson in this lineup, not Parks nor Dwight unless you consider them our best wing), the need to have a Pippen alongside JC’s MJ? So even if you are arguing JC to be the 3, your supporting statements are that of him being a 2.
Anyways it’s trivial, moot and academic at this point. Nowadays there’s a premium on switchability due to PnR/PnP being run heavily in the highest level.
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Alex07
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^^
So status quo is JC is our NP, don't see things changing in the next 2 years.
And will just have to revaluate in late 2022, if it is enough for 2023 (depending on how good Kai and AJ are really)
Philippines and JC is at the mercy of FIBA's legal/eligibility department,but I don't think it's impossible for getting Clarkson to be considered as local.I'd be waiting for that till 2023. Clarkson better not be a small forward,by that time,he'll be 31 and a bit past his prime, his athleticism and quickness might not be like before and bigger,younger guys may catch up.Pwede siguro in short bursts or if there's no choice like foul troubles,injuries or the small forward got disqualified by technical fouls,but not a full time small forward.i think its a bad idea.
Clarkson should always play the guard position may it be the shooting guard or the point guard position. Clarkson playing small forward would be like the same as the 2014 & 2019 World Cup small ball.Kobe,Ramos and Lopez should be ready by that time to step up the plate,there seem to have no other choice.Remember when Parks was outmatched by bigger French and New Zealand players,that may happen again,no matter how you look at it in basketball you it's hard for a 6'4 agile player to guard a 6'7-6'8 player,otherwise we would still be using our 6'6 centers and 6'5 power forwards(in 2013 Asian qualifiers this might work but I doubt 10 years later with world class opponents).
They may even be tempted to get Perez and Bolick at the back court(yikes),although we have a bigger front court,our guards and small forward will be mismatched by bigger but quick and agile players.
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NOiNU
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Philippines and JC is at the mercy of FIBA's legal/eligibility department,but I don't think it's impossible for getting Clarkson to be considered as local.I'd be waiting for that till 2023. Clarkson better not be a small forward,by that time,he'll be 31 and a bit past his prime, his athleticism and quickness might not be like before and bigger,younger guys may catch up.Pwede siguro in short bursts or if there's no choice like foul troubles,injuries or the small forward got disqualified by technical fouls,but not a full time small forward.i think its a bad idea.
Clarkson should always play the guard position may it be the shooting guard or the point guard position. Clarkson playing small forward would be like the same as the 2014 & 2019 World Cup small ball.Kobe,Ramos and Lopez should be ready by that time to step up the plate,there seem to have no other choice.Remember when Parks was outmatched by bigger French and New Zealand players,that may happen again,no matter how you look at it in basketball you it's hard for a 6'4 agile player to guard a 6'7-6'8 player,otherwise we would still be using our 6'6 centers and 6'5 power forwards(in 2013 Asian qualifiers this might work but I doubt 10 years later with world class opponents).
They may even be tempted to get Perez and Bolick at the back court(yikes),although we have a bigger front court,our guards and small forward will be mismatched by bigger but quick and agile players.
Agree with JC playing his natural position of a combo guard.
Actually it’s not a bad idea to have Perez and Bolick. For me, Perez is a must have for 2023. Let us not overreact them being a “bit” (it’s not like they’re 5’ 8”. Most WC teams have players of their size, some even smaller) undersized, what matters is what they could bring to the table. Proven na na kaya makipagsabayan ni Perez sa ganong level, Bolick too despite playing limited minutes. It would just be a matter of finding right combinations. Remember we have a plethora of decent sized wings to pair them up with.
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Alex07
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Agree with JC playing his natural position of a combo guard.
Actually it’s not a bad idea to have Perez and Bolick. For me, Perez is a must have for 2023. Let us not overreact them being a “bit” (it’s not like they’re 5’ 8”. Most WC teams have players of their size, some even smaller) undersized, what matters is what they could bring to the table. Proven na na kaya makipagsabayan ni Perez sa ganong level, Bolick too despite playing limited minutes. It would just be a matter of finding right combinations. Remember we have a plethora of decent sized wings to pair them up with.
I disagree, I think Bolick and Perez should be point guards and should not be on the court together at the same time,yes it may work in Asia against low tier teams,but definitely not in the World Cup. I know we had Castro and Lee playing together before but that is out of necessity and Clarkson,Chan(who I believe is 6'3-6'4) and Norwood were actually a very nice combination,with a very much conditioned Andray Blatche,we almost beat the best teams,probably partly because they didn't know what to expect and Blatche was also a bit unknown before as well, but our defense really worked that time,too bad we have very few options offensively.
Our next team should not do the same mistakes like the past national teams, the next team should be complete(no injuries) and should have A very strong offensive and defensive lineup.Remember we have a very good offensive team in the Asian games but it lacks the bigs defensively,we have virtually no shot blockers and the Asian teams sensed that early, although we did our best and almost beat China.
Our next team should have a balance of height,skills,athleticism,tactics and team chemistry. We should at least limit the excuse of the other team is bigger than us,there will always be a bigger team but what we should have is a team which is competitive enough and as much as possible not vertically challenged. It's not as if all our 12 players could hit their head with the rim when they jump.But even a Spud Webb, as athletic as he is would still be having trouble with his size at game time.
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NOiNU
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I disagree, I think Bolick and Perez should be point guards and should not be on the court together at the same time,yes it may work in Asia against low tier teams,but definitely not in the World Cup. I know we had Castro and Lee playing together before but that is out of necessity and Clarkson,Chan(who I believe is 6'3-6'4) and Norwood were actually a very nice combination,with a very much conditioned Andray Blatche,we almost beat the best teams,probably partly because they didn't know what to expect and Blatche was also a bit unknown before as well, but our defense really worked that time,too bad we have very few options offensively.
Our next team should not do the same mistakes like the past national teams, the next team should be complete(no injuries) and should have A very strong offensive and defensive lineup.Remember we have a very good offensive team in the Asian games but it lacks the bigs defensively,we have virtually no shot blockers and the Asian teams sensed that early, although we did our best and almost beat China.
Our next team should have a balance of height,skills,athleticism,tactics and team chemistry. We should at least limit the excuse of the other team is bigger than us,there will always be a bigger team but what we should have is a team which is competitive enough and as much as possible not vertically challenged. It's not as if all our 12 players could hit their head with the rim when they jump.But even a Spud Webb, as athletic as he is would still be having trouble with his size at game time.
Well you probably didn’t get the last part of my post. Finding the right combinations by making use of decent sized wings at our disposal. Definitely not something that suggests playing them together.
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Alex07
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BJ Johnson, 6'7, 200 lbs. (SF) undrafted
G-league stats (2020): 22.9 ppg. 6.2 rpg. 2.1 apg.
Source:https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629168/
Poor man's Paul George?
G-league stats (2020): 22.9 ppg. 6.2 rpg. 2.1 apg.
Source:https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629168/
Poor man's Paul George?
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mathematicianrcg
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Philippines and JC is at the mercy of FIBA's legal/eligibility department,but I don't think it's impossible for getting Clarkson to be considered as local.I'd be waiting for that till 2023. Clarkson better not be a small forward,by that time,he'll be 31 and a bit past his prime, his athleticism and quickness might not be like before and bigger,younger guys may catch up.Pwede siguro in short bursts or if there's no choice like foul troubles,injuries or the small forward got disqualified by technical fouls,but not a full time small forward.i think its a bad idea.
Clarkson should always play the guard position may it be the shooting guard or the point guard position. Clarkson playing small forward would be like the same as the 2014 & 2019 World Cup small ball.Kobe,Ramos and Lopez should be ready by that time to step up the plate,there seem to have no other choice.Remember when Parks was outmatched by bigger French and New Zealand players,that may happen again,no matter how you look at it in basketball you it's hard for a 6'4 agile player to guard a 6'7-6'8 player,otherwise we would still be using our 6'6 centers and 6'5 power forwards(in 2013 Asian qualifiers this might work but I doubt 10 years later with world class opponents).
They may even be tempted to get Perez and Bolick at the back court(yikes),although we have a bigger front court,our guards and small forward will be mismatched by bigger but quick and agile players.
I hope JC can be a local player.
But it looks like it will not push thru. They want to force us to treat JC as a NP.
It is ok. Atleast one spot for one Homegrown or Fil Foreign player
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thatweirdguy
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I'm ok with JC as our NP. He's probably a lot better than any wing we can naturalize. No disrespect to Ginebra and SMB fans but he will eat Brownlee and McCullough alive. Defensively those guys are probably at the same level but at least JC gets to guard NBA players nightly.
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magic_chiongson
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JC might not play on qualifiers though, we also need somebody who can
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live_evil
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If Clarkson is granted local status, it will be a game changer. Ramos, Clarkson, McCullough, Edu, Sotto would be able to stand toe to toe with a lot of teams. Except a full-force USA or Spain, of course haha.
By the way, can someone fix the title of this thread? The grammar simply horrifies me. haha
By the way, can someone fix the title of this thread? The grammar simply horrifies me. haha
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mathematicianrcg
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If Clarkson is granted local status, it will be a game changer. Ramos, Clarkson, McCullough, Edu, Sotto would be able to stand toe to toe with a lot of teams. Except a full-force USA or Spain, of course haha.
By the way, can someone fix the title of this thread? The grammar simply horrifies me. haha
Obviously. If we almost beat Argentina and croatia in 2014, goes toe to toe with france in 2015.
Then obviously a more talented with 2 Imports(Cmac and JC) gilas will easily be a top 15(maybe top 10) country in the world in fiba basketball.
It will just boils down to coaching, system, and PREPERATION
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analyzed2
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What makes JC our default SF when paired with either Parks or Dwight? Even this post of yours supports JC to be the 2 in such lineup. Arguments like best wing scorer normally being the 2 (that’s gotta be Clarkson in this lineup, not Parks nor Dwight unless you consider them our best wing), the need to have a Pippen alongside JC’s MJ? So even if you are arguing JC to be the 3, your supporting statements are that of him being a 2.
Anyways it’s trivial, moot and academic at this point. Nowadays there’s a premium on switchability due to PnR/PnP being run heavily in the highest level.
it's not important if JC is the default 3, but the best opposing wing defender of 2nd tier world level team will be assigned to him (normally a 6'5 ish guy, SF like Gabe, not a SG like Chan) so opponents transitioning from defense to offense, if opponent's SF guarded by Dwight (who's focus is defense to save Jc) , they have to cross switch when transitioning from offense to defense, while this may sound trivial it isn't especially for teams like the Philippines that normally don't have size at both wing spots, this is why having 2 wings both around 6' 5 is a significant upgrade for Gilas and other Asian teams ( which isn't the norm really)
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