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Players that we can have naturalized

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the 6’10” Diallo kid from FEU Baby tamaraws may also consider in the future..
 
I will say this again and again; There's no point in naturalizing players if they can;t play here in the Philippines as locals for the whole duration of their basketball careers, unless SBP opens its own basketball agency and manages the players themselves so they can insert Gilas clauses in their overseas contracts.
 
lurklurk said:
GS was granted eligibility after playing 11 years in the PH. At that rate, Kouame will be eligbile in 2027.
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Mainly because that's when filing for exception was only submitted, he would have gotten it much earlier if there was a need and if an application was made
 
deviant said:
sbp will push for him as a local for the upcoming wc qualifiers no need to wait until 2027.
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I've read an article in one of the online news and somehow this piece of sentence caught my attention about high school teams fielding some young african talents in their respective line-up moving forward..

Where do the Blue Eaglets go more so since other teams will be fielding African players next season – I have no idea.
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https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/02/14/1993101/where-to-ateneo-blue-eaglets
 
At first I was questioning why SBP needs to make a naturalized player pool. Now I get it Blatche still has a couple of years left, Brownlee is already 31 probably more years than Blatche and McCullough is still young. If one of them is unavailable there will be options aside from just 1 choice. Very well done. Also to applying for exemptions to African Imports.
 
Gilas needs Big Centers that can shoot 3 points,must be quick and athletic like the play of Porzingis or Jokic..:o
 
sajubeads said:
We can ask Fiba for Exemption on Kuoame, like than with GS, and play him as local...
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Does Kuoame even have Filipino parents? Not sure why Fiba should give an exemption when he doesn't have connection here other than playing basketball for couple of years
 
C2Hamm said:
Thon moved to Australia as a refugee when he was child.
Kuoame moved to the Philippines to study and play basketball.

is that a valid difference?
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While not exactly the same at least it is within the same principle of moving and residing as a minor & financially dependent on his adopted guardian (a guide line for possible exception

That's (ange) at least more similar , compared to a player who has Pinoy blood but has never lived in the Philippines and is gainfully suported professionally (foreign league) by another country, the latter reason and situation for exception (blood) ) is not in the principle or guidelines as a valid reason for exception. in this case we're sighting our own rules as basis for exception not what is written as guidliness provided by FIBA. if one wants to make an argument with that, then change FIBA guideline rules for exception rather than simply request for an exception for a specific player . The former (change rule) is obviously more difficult and unlikely ( good luck with that)

As you can see this isn't a question of what is right or morally right , but the protocols of making a request for exception or changing FIBA guideline rules for eligibility (excepetions included)
 
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analyzed said:
While not exactly the same at least it is within the same principle of moving and residing as a minor & financially dependent on his adopted guardian (a guide line for possible exception

That's (ange) at least more similar , compared to a player who has Pinoy blood but has never lived in the Philippines and is gainfully suported professionally (foreign league) by another country, the latter reason and situation for exception (blood) ) is not in the principle or guidelines as a valid reason for exception. in this case we're sighting our own rules as basis for exception not what is written as guidliness provided by FIBA. if one wants to make an argument with that, then change FIBA guideline rules for exception rather than simply request for an exception for a specific player . The former (change rule) is obviously more difficult and unlikely ( good luck with that)

As you can see this isn't a question of what is right or morally right , but the protocols of making a request for exception or changing FIBA guideline rules for eligibility (excepetions included)
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In short, taking advantage of the fiba rules instead of complaining about it.

Hagop rule is made particularly foe Qatar. But Qatar still was able to get foreign players as local.
 
C2Hamm said:
Fotu might be a better example.
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Actually Greg, (take away the blood connection which is meaningless to FIBA anyway) , Ange is similar to Greg ( also take into account the beucracy of the laws in the Philippines that takes time to naturalise people , expecially minors)
 
analyzed said:
Actually Greg, (take away the blood connection which is meaningless to FIBA anyway) , Ange is similar to Greg ( also take into account the beucracy of the laws in the Philippines that takes time to naturalise people , expecially minors)
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yeah, possibly. i can see that angle.

but Greg was living in RP for a long period of time before he got his passport and his stay enabled him to have roots in the country. how long is Ange in the Philippines? are we expecting Ange to get the exemption after he roughly stayed as long as Greg before getting the exemption?
 
C2Hamm said:
yeah, possibly. i can see that angle.

but Greg was living in RP for a long period of time before he got his passport and his stay enabled him to have roots in the country. how long is Ange in the Philippines? are we expecting Ange to get the exemption after he roughly stayed as long as Greg before getting the exemption?
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I think Ange since he was 16 yrs old in 2016.. (note he was financially dependent on his Philippine guardian and supporters and was not economically in a good state in Ivory coast ( single parent )

Greg got his exception late bucause the request was done late , he could of gotten his exception much earlier if there was a real need for Gilas (officially in roster for tournament )

Do note the guidlnes for exception do not specify hard figure requirments (like required # of years for residency etc etc) . So from the point of view of arguing for Kouame to be expemted they're all witin the guildlines specified
 
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