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Players that we can have naturalized

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Regarding, US citizenship. It is very hard to relinquish it and this basketball naturalization in relinquishing US citizenship has more to do with naturalization laws of the countries rather than the US.

US citizenship is HARD to relinquish. Naturalizing in other countries does not make you relinquish US citizenship -- voluntary renouncing does. Happened to my mom. Was born a US citizen but grew up in the Philippines. Naturalized as a Filipino and the BI PRESUMED she isn't a US citizen anymore (well, as far as I know the BI presumes you lost your other citizenship but they will NOT ask you to show any proof of renouncement). But when she went to the US embassy and apply for a visa, she was told what is STILL a US citizen because she did not show the INTENT to abandon US citizenship, but to just acquire Philippine citizenship to be able to take the board exam.


The case of the Philippines is different from those of Korea and Taiwan -- where before granting naturalization, these countries ask for proof of renouncement of their US citizenship.


(Note: the Dual citizenship laws ONLY apply to NATURAL BORN Filipinos)

In other words, US citizens who will be naturalized for the NT will not have to worry about losing their US citizenship. Hehehe.
 
Relentless said:
Looking back and moving forward (2015 Fiba Asia), I think that with the kind of team that we have and the type of game we play, we would benefit from a center who LIKES to run. Imagine if a center like Haddadi was playing against a Philippine center who LIKES TO run in the break after we get a rebound? Haddadi wouldn't be able to score as much because he would get tired trying to chase his man. He'll be forced to play defense. And I'm talking about a NATURAL center. Not someone like Japeth who was just forced to play center in the finals because of the injury to Douhtit. If you think about it, if Japeth at the 4 had a frontcourt partner who is legit center that LIKES to run, Iran's frontcourt of Haddadi and whoever would get exhausted faster and would have lesser energy on offense.

I'm not saying anything negative about Douhtit and Fajardo, I'm just saying that this is something we might have to look into as we move forward. Douhtit's already 33 and won't be around that long. Maybe he can promoted to one of the assistant coaches and personal low-post trainer of our 4's and 5's.

Let's face it, it's highly unlikely that we can match the size and strength of the frontcourts of Iran and China even if we have the option to naturalize a player. But since we have that option to draft a naturalized player for our national team, we might as well look for someone that can counter the edge in strength and size of our opponent's slow centers with speed and mobility.

Maybe we can naturalize someone who is 6'10" or 6'11", is a natural center, but LIKES to run the break and is seldom stationary in a half-court set. Japeth's only 26 so he'll have maybe 6 or 7 more productive years with the national team. It would be great if we can pair him with a legit center who can run with him in the break to make our opponent's 4 and 5 work harder and get tired faster. Then Fajardo and/or Slaughter and/or Sangalang could be the big men off the bench that play differently and gives our team a different look and option.
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tumpak! leave Ian alone though..he is overrated ( and goes to his left 100 percent of the time. I would rather train almazan to be a perimeter stopper in the fiba level. Long and athletic..he is a prototype for our future nt....konting calibration lang ng utak..ayos na!
 
What do you think about Bruno Sundov? a 7"3' 3point shooter who can run the floor but already 33 years old
 
Phlegm Thrower said:
What do you think about Bruno Sundov? a 7"3' 3point shooter who can run the floor but already 33 years old
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you already said it, he's 33...what will we do with him? and he already played for the croatian national team...
 
These two may want to see more action or revive their career:

1. Hasheem Thabeet 7'3
2. Channing Frye 6'11
 
Thabeet's like Haddadi, a little quicker but less experience in international set-up. He's aching for attention after becoming the top pick but with a dismal NBA performance.

But he's got the character of wanting to get better.
 
For WC 2014 lets stay with Douhit since he still plays well and healthy, it is just a freak accident that he got injured. He is still young next year at 34 that is still a good age for basketball. And it is also a way to reward his effort because he said he wants to rest for Spain. For next Fiba Asia, lets test Dozier, Dunigan, Bowles or maybe there is still a chance for Javale.
 
yogaflame said:
For WC 2014 lets stay with Douhit since he still plays well and healthy, it is just a freak accident that he got injured. He is still young next year at 34 that is still a good age for basketball. And it is also a way to reward his effort because he said he wants to rest for Spain. For next Fiba Asia, lets test Dozier, Dunigan, Bowles or maybe there is still a chance for Javale.
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i have to disagree...the injury is a result of having to play a high octane system everyday at full throttle. The competition is too much for a 34 year old. In this tourney, he is a far cry from the 2011 douhit. Siguro sa defense medyo okay pa but as far as his offense. ...He lost his perimeter touch...while his low post moves s no longer potent.
 
Dont you guys think that MD didnt score a lot in the 2013 FIBA compared to 2011 was that he had better teammates now and that his role is very different?
 
Big Ticket said:
Dont you guys think that MD didnt score a lot in the 2013 FIBA compared to 2011 was that he had better teammates now and that his role is very different?
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yes, as shown in the games, MD did not have to score as much as he needed to because the rest are as capable... but he anchored the defense and that
was where he became more useful... that was what was missed in the Finals...
 
paulezra said:
i have to disagree...the injury is a result of having to play a high octane system everyday at full throttle. The competition is too much for a 34 year old. In this tourney, he is a far cry from the 2011 douhit. Siguro sa defense medyo okay pa but as far as his offense. ...He lost his perimeter touch...while his low post moves s no longer potent.
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As far as I can remember, Douthit sustained the injury when he bumped his knee/shin into another knee (a Qatari player) in that game vs. Qatar last Aug. 6. I don't think "wear & tear" has so much to do with it. Of course I agree that as a player ages, then "wear & tear" will naturally takes it toll & this is when injuries come more often.
 
paulezra said:
i have to disagree...the injury is a result of having to play a high octane system everyday at full throttle. The competition is too much for a 34 year old. In this tourney, he is a far cry from the 2011 douhit. Siguro sa defense medyo okay pa but as far as his offense. ...He lost his perimeter touch...while his low post moves s no longer potent.
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i have to agree that we can go younger with our naturalized player and more importantly, find an "import" who's a better fit. He's good defensively but we do not maximize him offensively... Like every other position in the team, you only replace him if you are definitely going to find a better replacement. Of all the players in the Final 12? i think he's the most vulnerable to be replaced and you know why...
 
Relentless said:
Originally Posted by Relentless
Looking back and moving forward (2015 Fiba Asia), I think that with the kind of team that we have and the type of game we play, we would benefit from a center who LIKES to run. Imagine if a center like Haddadi was playing against a Philippine center who LIKES TO run in the break after we get a rebound? Haddadi wouldn't be able to score as much because he would get tired trying to chase his man. He'll be forced to play defense. And I'm talking about a NATURAL center. Not someone like Japeth who was just forced to play center in the finals because of the injury to Douhtit. If you think about it, if Japeth at the 4 had a frontcourt partner who is legit center that LIKES to run, Iran's frontcourt of Haddadi and whoever would get exhausted faster and would have lesser energy on offense.

I'm not saying anything negative about Douhtit and Fajardo, I'm just saying that this is something we might have to look into as we move forward. Douhtit's already 33 and won't be around that long. Maybe he can promoted to one of the assistant coaches and personal low-post trainer of our 4's and 5's.

Let's face it, it's highly unlikely that we can match the size and strength of the frontcourts of Iran and China even if we have the option to naturalize a player. But since we have that option to draft a naturalized player for our national team, we might as well look for someone that can counter the edge in strength and size of our opponent's slow centers with speed and mobility.

Maybe we can naturalize someone who is 6'10" or 6'11", is a natural center, but LIKES to run the break and is seldom stationary in a half-court set. Japeth's only 26 so he'll have maybe 6 or 7 more productive years with the national team. It would be great if we can pair him with a legit center who can run with him in the break to make our opponent's 4 and 5 work harder and get tired faster. Then Fajardo and/or Slaughter and/or Sangalang could be the big men off the bench that play differently and gives our team a different look and option.
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I think most centers now, American or European can also run the break.Heck even Douthit runs better than Heddadi.Of course with more weight the tendency is you will also loose speed.What if we choose a natural center who is 6'9, 235 lbs but he'll be eaten alive by Heddadi and other NBA type big men in the paint? I'd like a guy who has a solid post up offense and defense with a bit of all around game (can pass,can run the floor well and can shoot some 17 foot jumpers).Someone who is strong enough to battle in the paint and get those rebounds but not a lumbering jack.
 
Javele McGee is the answer, I think he really fits the DDO of Chot
 
So we will retain all the 11 players to play in Spain except for Douthit?.. wow
 
lets get javale mcgee.. Shaqtin a fool...

Laban pilipinas.. tapos c javale hindi mkaintindi kasi utak pigsa.. <dafuq>
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