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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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what if d pba made a strong request to sbp that d batch 1 of d pba gilas draftees be allowed to play in d pba now by not renewing their contracts?

perhaps, sbp obliged which made tab resigned?

just an alternative explanation outside of what d likes of snow have already mentioned.
 
I hope we are not giving Coach Chot the benefit of doubt this time. He had, i think, more than a decade of that.
He should be critiqued now until he delivers otherwise.

Lagi na lang pinagbibigyan eh.

The goal post for 2023FIBA WC is 2nd rd. But there are a lot of added teams in that tournament, so for me, it should be - get passed the 2nd rd.
And please no bulinggit guards, unless they are in the level of 2014 FIBA WC Barea.
 
It is just speculation but it looks like the possibility is increasing that it was politics that remove Coach tab,and the gilas players already knows this for many months that is why most of them are hesitant to sign again for Gilas and some already turn pro. Anyway, dribble drive and small ball is already ineffective for many years, sobrang predictable, scouted na ng ibang bansa. Sayang ang itinamin ni coach tab na maganda system of swing and motion offense and good defense, kung totoo na na politika lang at scrap lahat . malapit pa naman dalawang importanteng tournament, Fiba asia cup sa july and WC2023. sigh... dream line up, dream set up and Coach tab system gone.

Probably. Now most of them didn't renew their contracts. What's the point then if the next coach doesn't want them anyway.

Chot saying he's open to working with Nenad and Tab sounds like a PR move after the public backlash.
 
I hope we are not giving Coach Chot the benefit of doubt this time. He had, i think, more than a decade of that.
He should be critiqued now until he delivers otherwise.

Lagi na lang pinagbibigyan eh.

The goal post for 2023FIBA WC is 2nd rd. But there are a lot of added teams in that tournament, so for me, it should be - get passed the 2nd rd.
And please no bulinggit guards, unless they are in the level of 2014 FIBA WC Barea.

or 2019 FIBA WC Campazzo, but damn, we haven't produce that type of guard since ever
 
or 2019 FIBA WC Campazzo, but damn, we haven't produce that type of guard since ever

We have a lot of small guards unfortunately they aren't really of the same quality. Those guys made it to the NBA despite their height so height really isn't the problem. Its the overall quality despite what the many click bait videos says

We don't have any high level homegrown PG prospects right now. It would be a long time until we catch up
 
Holy crap, Tab brought Nenad Vucinic. He is another great coach. Tab wants to put us back in the map. SBP is wasting these great coaches to favor Choke Reyes.

If they went to Coach Nenad. The reaction will be fine. Because he is a euro coach. And will probably just continue the system.

Anyway, This window will be interesting.

Will Coach Chot be a full time gilas coach and leave TNT.

Will TNT Core be the Gilas Core this time with additional cadets.

Will there be other pba players aside fron tnt players.

Will some collegiate players be lend by their respective schools
 
^^Of course it’s hard to be happy with this recent development,

One thing’s for sure, there’s more to this than meets the eye. But you’d be naive if you would expect transparency here. Most likely there are sensitive infos that are not for public consumption. So s.

Exactly ��... definitely not a basketball decision.
 
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or 2019 FIBA WC Campazzo, but damn, we haven't produce that type of guard since ever

Strong, explosively fast, can do in-game dunks once in a while, NBA/Euroleague-level of on-court wizardry, etc. Yeah, we don't have guards of that kind right now. If only Pringle was eligible and younger, solve sana ang problema sa 1,2.
 
It is just speculation but it looks like the possibility is increasing that it was politics that remove Coach tab,and the gilas players already knows this for many months that is why most of them are hesitant to sign again for Gilas and some already turn pro. Anyway, dribble drive and small ball is already ineffective for many years, sobrang predictable, scouted na ng ibang bansa. Sayang ang itinamin ni coach tab na maganda system of swing and motion offense and good defense, kung totoo na na politika lang at scrap lahat . malapit pa naman dalawang importanteng tournament, Fiba asia cup sa july and WC2023. sigh... dream line up, dream set up and Coach tab system gone.

Pba wanted gilas to be guest team in pba tab didnt want it, bullanadi suerte need burn not just for gilas but for tbeir pba careers... they didnt have the compromise for the sake of marginalized gilas players..
 
This news is giving me some sort of positivity, I guess. I hope they can work things out. We can't afford to drastically change the program and not continue to build on what Tab did. Okay, fine, have a TNT core for this window because of the lack of players, but I really hope that they don't stray too much from the two years of progress that has been made. The logical thing to do after this window is to regroup and make sound decisions. I hope they get their sh*t sorted.

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...ultant-nenad-vucinic-chot-reyes-speaks/230768

I'm sorry but this sounds like lip service (Re: article, not Stevy).

Does Tab really value Ateneo that much? Or was his removal a nepotistic move?
 
I hope we are not giving Coach Chot the benefit of doubt this time. He had, i think, more than a decade of that.
He should be critiqued now until he delivers otherwise.

Lagi na lang pinagbibigyan eh.

The goal post for 2023FIBA WC is 2nd rd. But there are a lot of added teams in that tournament, so for me, it should be - get passed the 2nd rd.
And please no bulinggit guards, unless they are in the level of 2014 FIBA WC Barea.

Aside from supposed politics, i think Coach Chot's hiring is still due to his track record, that despite the lackluster showing in 2017, he's still the most accomplished internationally out of all the current Pinoy coaches. But i agree with you, he must show better results this time around. With homecourt advantage and all, it would be a total failure should Gilas not secure an Olympic spot by finishing on top of all the participating Asian NTs in WC 2023.

Furthermore, his upcoming Gilas HC stint should be his last. He's gotta give way beyond 2023/24 to someone who specializes in development but has a proven track record of winning in FIBA. Given that the PHL basketball system nowadays is producing taller and more skillful talents, such group would surely still need someone like Tab to maximize their potential.
 
Probably. Now most of them didn't renew their contracts. What's the point then if the next coach doesn't want them anyway.

Chot saying he's open to working with Nenad and Tab sounds like a PR move after the public backlash.

In a way maybe a sign of silent protest or sympathy to Coach Tab by some gilas players. Well, looks like there is a big public backlash and big suspicion of consipiracy or politics, but anyway, I don't care if Coach chot just wants the limelight again, i just dont want too see that dreaded small ball and dribble drive that killed our national team recently. Coach Tab motion and swing system should still be the foundation of the team.
 
In a way maybe a sign of silent protest or sympathy to Coach Tab by some gilas players. Well, looks like there is a big public backlash and big suspicion of consipiracy or politics, but anyway, I don't care if Coach chot just wants the limelight again, i just dont want too see that dreaded small ball and dribble drive that killed our national team recently. Coach Tab motion and swing system should still be the foundation of the team.

Suerte and Bulanadi want to play already. As for Go and the Nieto twins, I dunno.
 
Pba wanted gilas to be guest team in pba tab didnt want it, bullanadi suerte need burn not just for gilas but for tbeir pba careers... they didnt have the compromise for the sake of marginalized gilas players..

Well maybe its not even Coach Tab but PBA is the one hesitant or so many red tapes for Gilas to join this Governors cup. But there are even rumors that they blame Coach tab for players opting to play abroad, which is crazy, knowing Coach Tab wants his players to stay more in the country for focus in training for national team, he was even sadden by Dwight Ramos decision to go pro but he cannot do anything about it. i have a feeling BAP remnants, PBA and BCAP and SMC ehem Long hair, just dont like Coach tab period.
 
Probably. Now most of them didn't renew their contracts. What's the point then if the next coach doesn't want them anyway.

Chot saying he's open to working with Nenad and Tab sounds like a PR move after the public backlash.

Chot’s expert in how to play around the media.
 
Suerte and Bulanadi want to play already. As for Go and the Nieto twins, I dunno.

Well in the end they will still play ofcourse. Maybe they just want sbp, mvp and pba to feel there silent protest.
 
I hope we are not giving Coach Chot the benefit of doubt this time. He had, i think, more than a decade of that.
He should be critiqued now until he delivers otherwise.

Lagi na lang pinagbibigyan eh.

The goal post for 2023FIBA WC is 2nd rd. But there are a lot of added teams in that tournament, so for me, it should be - get passed the 2nd rd.
And please no bulinggit guards, unless they are in the level of 2014 FIBA WC Barea.

In a way maybe a sign of silent protest or sympathy to Coach Tab by some gilas players. Well, looks like there is a big public backlash and big suspicion of consipiracy or politics, but anyway, I don't care if Coach chot just wants the limelight again, i just dont want too see that dreaded small ball and dribble drive that killed our national team recently. Coach Tab motion and swing system should still be the foundation of the team.

Yeah. For Christ's sake, I don't want to see undersized guards playing the 3. Chot needs to select legit-sized wings for these windows, the Asia Cup, and the WC.

I only hope Chot keeps the defense. He already coached good defensive games in the PBA, took a page out of Tab. Now time to make it work with Gilas.
 
I think Tab is still program director. He just stepped down as coach.

The SBP hiring a PBA coach under the MVP group means they will try to retain Tab's system with some tweaks.

Chot's program director as well. I only hope that his saying that he'll try to learn from Tab and Nenad is genuine and not bullshit. Plus, hope he'll continue what Tab started, and not set a new foundation.
 
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