I'm all for that, as long as our players are improving, anyway if they stayed here they'd probably won't be available since they are in the PBA
The 3-4 years of build up and preparation have just gone to naught. Gilas is already in the last stage of perfecting Tabs system now its back to scratch again.I hope i won't see that dreadful 3 under 6-foot on the floor again.
Hay, I bloody hope not. We would be sacrificing a ton of defense, which would come in handy especially if shots aren't falling. We'd need a legit FIBA-sized wing ala Oftana, Navarro, MGR, so that we can better challenge shots with their length. I hope this idea gets to Chot's head, as the 3-guard lineups he has will sacrifice a lot of defense.
Spin's POV. At the 34:00 mark Snow pointing that the lineup in 2013 with small ball is inferior now to that with Kai and Justine Baltazar. But Tab did not land Baltazar. He developed him from a center to an SF. When everybody was laughing Tab was dead serious. And when he showed how deadly Justine was even after a few months of training as an SF now they are saying Tab has a better line-up. No, Tab makes use of his talent. Develops then to the level they can compete. Even June Mar, he developed June Mar to polish his floater and also to lose weight to become better at PNR defense. No. Tab developed his talent pool. You could even say he developed Dwight. Dwight was not this good in the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa9Cm7UiTt0
Yeah, Tab has just about as good a track record of player development as anybody. Talent-wise, when speaking about level at the time, I think Chot had a better lineup in 2013-14 that what Tab had last June. However, I did say that Tab's June 2021 lineup could surpass 2013-14 in terms of level and talent, due to their upside. Still, potential is just potential.
As to Baltazar (and to an extent Tamayo), what other coach would have the vision to develop similarly-sized and similarly mobile bigs as combo forwards? Just Goldwyn Monteverde, who started the seeds for both Tamayo and Kevin Quiambao, and the latter says he's working to be a small forward. We could see the same thing in Justin Arana, Jeo Ambohot, but Arana's a 4/5 and Ambohot's a 4. Troy Rosario couldn't be developed into a combo forward. No expansion of skillset. Tab actually pushed the limits for both Baltazar and Tamayo
Another example: Tab actually tried to develop playmaking from Suerte and Dave Ildefonso, turning them into combo guards in effect. Who else would have thought of that?
It's not just talent level, it's also about expanding skillsets. Sayang.
The 3-guard lineup or Chot’s system can actually work if those 3 guards had legitimate size.
It’s a good system offensively but a bloody nightmare defensively if you’re fucking undersized. Imagine being a 6’2 small forward defending a Euro SG/SF like Evan Fournier who is 6’7.
Ang problema kay Chot, pilit nyang hilain ang kalaban pababa kesa i-angat tayo sa kanilang level. There’s a reason he has a losing record against Korea and Iran. He never learns his lesson. He’s too proud and stubborn with his “Bara Bara” offence.
Just look at the Bulls. They have 3 guards who start: Ball, Lavine, and DeRozan. Is it a problem? No because all of them are 6’6.
Thanks for citing the Bulls. Hahahahahahaha. They actually have 4 guards who close in their best lineup, and the smallest is Alex Caruso at 6'4", and he's tough enough to guard 1 to 3. There's a reason him and Ball are the Bulls' defensive anchors.
I'd approve of Chot's 3-guard lineups if Dwight were the 3rd guard, or even Dave Ildefonso, as both stand around the 6'4"-6'5" range. The only 6'2" guard I'd approve of in that lineup would be Thirdy Ravena, who can compensate with strength, length, effort, and athleticism.
UAAP, harder? Nobody has broken through Tab's defense yet in the UAAP.
Oh, yeah, I suddenly remembered Chua's "pang-amateur ka lang."
To be fair, Adamson and FEU were able to do so, once each.
To be fair, Adamson and FEU were able to do so, once each.
Chot will play against a full-strength Korean Team not a watered-down version of the team Tab played against in Pampanga. For all negatives we can say against Chot, Tab also has his: Losing a tactical game against NZ. Losing to Palestine. Losing twice to Jordan in King Abdullah. Blow out losses to some Euro Teams in 2015. With him at the helm, he has already excluded players for Gilas like the GDL brothers, Lopez, Nonoy, etc. If the rumors are true, he made money sending players to Japan, probably thru Dickel. Why is this a problem? The UAAP teams won't be lending their players to Gilas because at any moment they can be recruited to turn Pro. No Balti, Tamayo, Abbarientos, Ildefonso, etc. to Gilas this year. I think the final straw was Dwight not playing for Ateneo, with MVP probably finding out Tab had something to do with it.
-blowout losses some Euro Teams in 2015
you really counted the tune-up? christ.
-watered-down version of the team Tab played against in Pampanga
This was the same team Korea sent in the OQT. besides, akala ko ba eh whoever suit up for Korea, it is still Korea because players don't matter but Korea is all about the system? why there is an excuse like this?
Besides, the one you are talking about as full-strength Korea are already old. Oh is approaching 35, Kim Sunhyung is approaching 35 this year, Lee Junghyun is approaching 34 next year - no far from the age of Castro (35), Norwood (36), Erram (33), and Almazan (33).
These players are supposedly retired for international duties.
-Losing a tactical game against NZ
You really think that NZ is just an Asian-level team when they are beating mid-tier European teams.
- That Palestine is the one that we can agree with - it was a pure boo boo.
- Losing twice to Jordan in King Abdullah
That's an exhibition game. Why risk players to give their a game when it does not totally count? weird.
-The UAAP teams won't be lending their players to Gilas because at any moment they can be recruited to turn Pro.
So you love to let these players to rot while waiting for a go-signal by IATF and CHED? dude, these players have no UAAP/NCAA games two years now. bubulukin mo sila dito instead earning their livelihood to cope from this pandemic just for the sake of your personal glory? such a selfish mindset then.
This news is giving me some sort of positivity, I guess. I hope they can work things out. We can't afford to drastically change the program and not continue to build on what Tab did. Okay, fine, have a TNT core for this window because of the lack of players, but I really hope that they don't stray too much from the two years of progress that has been made. The logical thing to do after this window is to regroup and make sound decisions. I hope they get their sh*t sorted.
https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...ultant-nenad-vucinic-chot-reyes-speaks/230768
At least this would indicate that Chot is willing to learn from others. I hope he does learn this time. He took defense from Tab and translated it to TNT. He might learn more from Tab and Nenad. Hope Jong, Caloy, and Sandy stay too and help in developing the players, taking what they learned from Tab.
I'm counting on it. Hopefully he can recruit the UAAP/NCAA players, even the older high school players.
This news is giving me some sort of positivity, I guess. I hope they can work things out. We can't afford to drastically change the program and not continue to build on what Tab did. Okay, fine, have a TNT core for this window because of the lack of players, but I really hope that they don't stray too much from the two years of progress that has been made. The logical thing to do after this window is to regroup and make sound decisions. I hope they get their sh*t sorted.
https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...ultant-nenad-vucinic-chot-reyes-speaks/230768
At least this would indicate that Chot is willing to learn from others. I hope he does learn this time. He took defense from Tab and translated it to TNT. He might learn more from Tab and Nenad. Hope Jong, Caloy, and Sandy stay too and help in developing the players, taking what they learned from Tab.
I'm counting on it. Hopefully he can recruit the UAAP/NCAA players, even the older high school players.
At least this would indicate that Chot is willing to learn from others. I hope he does learn this time. He took defense from Tab and translated it to TNT. He might learn more from Tab and Nenad. Hope Jong, Caloy, and Sandy stay too and help in developing the players, taking what they learned from Tab.
I'm counting on it. Hopefully he can recruit the UAAP/NCAA players, even the older high school players.
At least this would indicate that Chot is willing to learn from others. I hope he does learn this time. He took defense from Tab and translated it to TNT. He might learn more from Tab and Nenad. Hope Jong, Caloy, and Sandy stay too and help in developing the players, taking what they learned from Tab.
I'm counting on it. Hopefully he can recruit the UAAP/NCAA players, even the older high school players.
I see it as Chot wanting to use the Qualifiers as a training ground to combine his and Tab's pool of players.
It's not over for guys like Dwight, Thirdy, and Balti.
The only thing I like about Chot is his willingness to learn. Unlike that bald cunt.
Holy crap, Tab brought Nenad Vucinic. He is another great coach. Tab wants to put us back in the map. SBP is wasting these great coaches to favor Choke Reyes.