Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[DAdmiral2]

For just the 2023 WC , Tab,
After and before Jong

 

[Sikatrix2]

The program is being shaped according to the whims of Coach Tab. Why isnt he the permanent coach?

 

[interxavierxxx2]

The program is being shaped according to the whims of Coach Tab. Why isnt he the permanent coach?

Politics

Kapag sya ang HC, the SMC group in the PBA board will make it difficult to lend players from their camp. Not that we need that many SMC players but we can't take chances.

We need all parties on the same page in order to get the most out of our preparations for the WC.

 

[mathematicianrcg2]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba...sing-door-on-return-to-the-post-a795-20210515

Any takers? Who do you think should be the permanent coach moving forward to 2023?

I hope they are looking for a european coach or a european style coach.

But I have no problem if Coach Tab will be

The head coach.

Mahirap kasi when Players are already familiar with coach tab system, the new coach will implement his own system.

Coach Jong may also be the dummy coach in 2023 WC for Coach tab.

Look at previous windows, Coach Dickel and Coach Uichico are the head coaches. But Coach tab mostly gets the credit

 

[reamily2]

Dahil wala pang uaap, susulitin na si tab, sa gilas na lang siya muna, the only reason he cant coach the windows is his ateneo commitments eh wala ngayon,even in 2023 kahit mag give way ang uaap, syempre his presence in ateneo is needed unless he will left the job and turn over it to sandy or dickel..

 

[IPC2]

Possible new jersey for Gilas 5.

This one will be used in 3x3:

San Miguel Beer, a Gilas sponsor? Wow.

 

[CoJ2]

San Miguel Beer, a Gilas sponsor? Wow.

they also sponsored that ill fated 2019 FIBA world cup team

 

[hmbopbaduwap2]

they also sponsored that ill fated 2019 FIBA world cup team

World Cup and the first two windows, there's also a Star Margarine logo at the back of Batang Gilas jersey at the U19 World Cup

 

[reamily2]

Ever since Pankilio assumed sbp presidency, the san miguel beer has become the back sponsor of our national team replacing chooks to go

 

[Labradoodle2]

The program is being shaped according to the whims of Coach Tab. Why isnt he the permanent coach?

Probably the SBP wants him to oversee the entire development program that will go beyond 2023?

I hope that's what SBP is gearing towards - to develop a sustainable national program.instead of the last minute hugot style that led to the 2019 embarrassment

 

[Labradoodle2]

But in summary case for change of FIBA eligibility rules is dead, no federation is really dialoguing with FIBA to change rules, the discussions which there are , are limited to ;
Getting exceptions for certain players
And
Potentially using other documents other than passport as basis of confirmation of citizenship before 16 years old

So do you think the SBP saying they are talking to FIBA about lifting the Hagop rule is simply PR to appease Pinoy fans?

 

[Labradoodle2]

The problem if some of these players will end up in PBA after 2023.. For sure majority of these players who are cadets as of now will be a PBA players after 2023.. It will be again ala Gilas 1 scenario where they end up in PBA then the program that Toroman build before were vanished.. Lassiter, Lutz, Greg and Japeth could be vital players for Gilas after 2011 if they were continue to be trained as a team even Toroman is not there.. But Chot changed all of the dynamics of the program.. Leaving the Gilas 1 players stuck their careers at PBA... Baracael should accept Middle east offer before.. Japeth should continue his US dream after Gilas 1..

That is if the SBP's only goal is 2023. If it's beyond that, they will CONTINUOUSLY inject, develop and give experience to young ballers to the NT pool.

The key here is CONTINUOUSLY so that those who go to the PBA can be "replenished"

 

[DAdmiral2]

So do you think the SBP saying they are talking to FIBA about lifting the Hagop rule is simply PR to appease Pinoy fans?

While the headlines state, "working to junk the hagop rule" , there is actually no direct quote or statement from a top SBP official (maybe those indirectly involved have made opinion statements) stating that the focus is to junk the rule. Of course it can be interpreted that way , especially if the question is suggesting that ? but it is actually quite difficult to have to explain at a common man speak for the paradigm of the Philippine public what actually is involved when one is lobbying essentially to be able to field eligible players. too lenghtly to explain that will be able to be comprehended by the public , and especailly with some privacy issues involved.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

World Cup and the first two windows, there's also a Star Margarine logo at the back of Batang Gilas jersey at the U19 World Cup

Even the jerseys of the Gilas cadet team in the 1st & 2nd window of the 2021 FIBA Asia Cup qualifiers had San Miguel logo in the back portion of the jersey.

 

[ARMIR2]

If SBP wants long term.. They need to secure the following:
1. Ramos
2. Baltazar
3. Thirdy
4. Edu
5. Panopio
6. Tamayo

I not include Kouame because he can't play PBA as local, while Kai will be busy in international and hopefully NBA.. Evil empire can't grab these two.. I not include also Heading even i like him in long term because he was now in Terrafirma once he enters PBA (Panopio can replace him), Terrafirma is SMC's farm team.. These players that i mentioned hopefully stayed playing overseas professional league or if they play in the PBA then SBP should act seriously to get them in either 3 MVP teams or Blackwater... Just like what they did to secured Oftana... Other names in Gilas pool that i not mentioned then i don't care if they will land in evil empire (SMC), their farm teams or some independent teams in the PBA.. If they land in either 3 MVP teams or Blackwater then much better...

If I were the upcoming NBL,they should have something in their charter a revolving door policy,everyone is welcome regardless of where they played at any stage of their playing career,in fact go the opposite of the PBA on everything.

 

[mathematicianrcg2]

If I were the upcoming NBL,they should have something in their charter a revolving door policy,everyone is welcome regardless of where they played at any stage of their playing career,in fact go the opposite of the PBA on everything.

" Go the opposite of the pba on everything" LMAO.

This is how bad our bes basketball league in the country

 

[DAdmiral2]

From Chot...

Looking at the future of the Philippines, Reyes sees great potential in well-rounded Thirdy Ravena ("… He can guard anyone from the 1 to 4 and that’s what Gabe [Norwood] did for us… "), Matt Nieto (" …He has the size, he has the savvy, he has the smarts, he has the defensive prowess to excel in that [point guard] role as well… "), Dwight Ramos (" … He’s a guy that can essentially [fill in] the right spot we have now as the designated three point shooter like that of the past that we had Jeff Chan, Larry Fonancier… "), and Kai Sotto (" … He’s that type of a player where he’s a generational player… ").

 

[cocoyg2]

Hopefully Chot does not entertain ideas in his head about taking over the Gilas coaching job like before. ��

 

[Jackie Reaper2]

Hopefully Chot does not entertain ideas in his head about taking over the Gilas coaching job like before. ��

He does not have the oversight function in Gilas. It is on Tab.

 

[CoJ2]

I will not surprise if IBL (Indonesian Pro league) will surpass PBA as best basketball league in SEA (OUTSIDE ABL) due to this reasons:

1. Allowing Naturalized players as local players.. Guys like Prosper, Senegalese recruits and former naturalized players likes of Johnson, Hargrove and Eugenio can play in IBL w/o restriction.. Thus, increasing the competition of the league...

2. 100% support for the National team.. No if, no buts, No hesitation.. They all out support for their national team.. Even allowing cadets to play in IBL w/o any hesitation.. They know that national team success will be also success of their PRO league, Thus, increase popularity of sport in their country..

3. They have real salary cap rules, Good treatment for all of their teams (Although still have super strong and weak teams) and transparent in all transactions of their league

4. And allowing 2 imports aside from naturalized players.. Same reason as no.1..

This is exactly opposite of what PBA is now today.. If not their super talents likes of Castro, Fajardo, Romeo, etc and undying popularity of Ginebra, eh this league is already Die below 6ft underground..

the PBA wont die unless MVP and RSA pulls out from it