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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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Sikatrix said:
Reading between the lines. They doubt the validity of QMB's passport. They'd submit it to FIBA if they were confident.
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there should be no question about QMB having a US passport. he was born and raised there. so the question will be his PH passport. i am not sure why SBP cant coordinate with DFA. they should have all the records of anyone who requested a passport. they are the only agency who approves and releases these right?
 
Hell even SBP can ask the DFA could to forge or manipulate a PH passport whenever they want. It would be risky but seeing how corruption can be seen on every part of Philippines identity, it would be possible to do it. Just money talks, I guess.
 
Sir lemon,

we don't need to dip our fingers to do some dirty transactions.

it really ain't cool moving forward.

rather SBP and it's other stakeholders should invest to kids with potentials esp. with height 6'7 and above

to study and play in the HS level here.

I think the Colin Akowe and Racine Kane route is a good template

I don't think it will fall in that so-called human trafficking thing or child abuse because the narrative is about child education

in relation to sports development specifically basketball development. certainly with parents and guardians consent.

if it is related to labor thing then that is already a red flag.

obviously kids of African descent are majority that we've also seen either basketball, volleyball, football both for mens and womens

now back to QMB, I remember one of the complain of the Millora-Brown family specifically from his late Dr. MD Grand Daddy

is the legworks on obtaining the docs same remarks from Ron Harper Sr. wherein eventually his Jr. obtained that after his 16th birthday

according to some of the old forumers here.

for now, the important thing is the big dude are willing to play for us and he is genuinely committed to the program.

as for the FIBA's verdict, well majority of the members of their respective national teams in the Asia-Oceania are still in the tail-end of their respective club commitments

I rather hear a verdict during the off-season either by May or first week of June.

otherwise if FIBA releases their official statement either positive or negative few weeks before the actual conclave in Aug.

then that's a bummer.
 
If I'm to choose between RJ Abarrientos & SJ Belangel as additional guard for Gilas (in case coach Tim would want additional players), I would take the latter. Offense wise, I think Abarrientos is better, but on the defensive aspect, Belangel is the better guy. I like Belangel's "gulang" & "angas" which he displayed during his stint with Gilas in 2021 under coach Tab Baldwin. During that time, it was Belangel who started for coach Tab, but you can attribute that to familiarity since Belangel was coach Tab's point guard at Ateneo.

I think Belangel has really improved in the last 3 years or so & he is doing really well in the KBL.
 
Joe Yabuki said:
This is probably it, if they want the sure fire way QMB is probably required to play a few seasons on a local pro league (pba, not sure if mpbl counts) but with Kai injured for a long period there is a pressing need for QMB now
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This would cost SBP alot of money since,his agents already probably looking overseas and probably have offers already.
 
I'm thinking that perhaps Justine Brownlee's injury to his right thumb which would require surgery is a blessing in disguised as far as Gilas in concerned as such surgery is going to sideline him for a number of weeks. Getting sideline for say 5 to 6 weeks after the surgery would simply means getting a much needed rest.

JB needs rest as he moonlights as Ginebra import & Gilas naturalized player. He's not getting any younger hence madali na sya mapagod ngayod as compared to 5 years ago.

I heard he's going to get surgery to that injured thumb right after this championship series with TNT.
 
PBA is just giving coach Tim Cone a built-in excuse just in case Gilas sucks in the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup - "We only had 9 days to prepare which obviously isn't enough"
 
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sroth3839

In fairness to the PBA, I think they used to support Gilas well in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 & 2016. I mean PBA adjusted its calendar during those years so that Gilas would get enough time of preparation for FIBA tourneys & other international tournaments. Although of course, SMC during that time lent only 1 player per team for the national team. But at least Gilas got the preparation it needed to make the team battle ready.

But after 2016, PBA hardly cooperated with SBP in helping Gilas get ample preparation time for any tournaments except the 2023 FIBA World kasi host tayo eh.
 
JAMSKIE said:
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sroth3839

In fairness to the PBA, I think they used to support Gilas well in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 & 2016. I mean PBA adjusted its calendar during those years so that Gilas would get enough time of preparation for FIBA tourneys & other international tournaments. Although of course, SMC during that time lent only 1 player per team for the national team. But at least Gilas got the preparation it needed to make the team battle ready.

But after 2016, PBA hardly cooperated with SBP in helping Gilas get ample preparation time for any tournaments except the 2023 FIBA World kasi host tayo eh.
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by PBA i think you meant MVP. in 2015 SMC players (except pingris) famously suddenly became too injured/sick or had to take care of family members with cancer. that was gilas' best shot at making the olympics in the past 40 years or so. china barely beat the a gilas team B w/ blatche to qualify for the 2016 rio olympics.
 
magic_chiongson said:
by PBA i think you meant MVP. in 2015 SMC players (except pingris) famously suddenly became too injured/sick or had to take care of family members with cancer. that was gilas' best shot at making the olympics in the past 40 years or so. china barely beat the a gilas team B w/ blatche to qualify for the 2016 rio olympics.
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*Cough* Super ubo *cough*.

Same delusional a-holes are running the program now.
Still doing the same things under the guise of "would not fit well with TC's super secret hard to grasp system"
 
magic_chiongson said:
by PBA i think you meant MVP. in 2015 SMC players (except pingris) famously suddenly became too injured/sick or had to take care of family members with cancer. that was gilas' best shot at making the olympics in the past 40 years or so. china barely beat the a gilas team B w/ blatche to qualify for the 2016 rio olympics.
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What I mean is, SMC in 2012, 2013, & 2014 lent only Junmar (of San Miguel Beer), Japeth (of Ginebra) & Pingris (of San Mig Coffeee/BMeg now known as Magnolia) for Gilas which was known as "one-player-per-team" policy.

Then in 2015, SMC & even ROS didn't lend any of its players to Gilas, hence the inclussion of aging players llke Dondon Hontiveros, Asi Taulava, Sonny Thoss in the Gilas line up. It was only Pingris from the SMC camp who defied this policy by SMC that he still suited up for Gilas in 2015 which was very commendable as Ping showed extra ordinary loyalty to the national team.

Without the one-player-per-team policy by SMC, coach Chot would have wanted players like Marcio Lassiter & James Yap in the Gilas team in 2012, 2013 & 2014.
 
magic_chiongson said:
by PBA i think you meant MVP. in 2015 SMC players (except pingris) famously suddenly became too injured/sick or had to take care of family members with cancer. that was gilas' best shot at making the olympics in the past 40 years or so. china barely beat the a gilas team B w/ blatche to qualify for the 2016 rio olympics.
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thatweirdguy said:
*Cough* Super ubo *cough*.

Same delusional a-holes are running the program now.
Still doing the same things under the guise of "would not fit well with TC's super secret hard to grasp system"
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JAMSKIE said:
What I mean is, SMC in 2012, 2013, & 2014 lent only Junmar (of San Miguel Beer), Japeth (of Ginebra) & Pingris (of San Mig Coffeee/BMeg now known as Magnolia) for Gilas which was known as "one-player-per-team" policy.

Then in 2015, SMC & even ROS didn't lend any of its players to Gilas, hence the inclussion of aging players llke Dondon Hontiveros, Asi Taulava, Sonny Thoss in the Gilas line up. It was only Pingris from the SMC camp who defied this policy by SMC that he still suited up for Gilas in 2015 which was very commendable as Ping showed extra ordinary loyalty to the national team.

Without the one-player-per-team policy by SMC, coach Chot would have wanted players like Marcio Lassiter & James Yap in the Gilas team in 2012, 2013 & 2014.
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On the SMC side, apart from June Mar, Pingris, and Japeth, which FIBA-eligible players from 2012 would be useful for Gilas, and could not be easily replaced?​​
 
IPC said:
On the SMC side, apart from June Mar, Pingris, and Japeth, which FIBA-eligible players from 2012 would be useful for Gilas, and could not be easily replaced?​​
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Obvious answer is "Super Ubo" Lassiter. Super Ubo could have replaced Garry David. I like Lassiter coz he has the shooting & defense.

And maybe James Yap, but I feel Yap being a volume shooter isn't good for Gilas at that time.
 
JAMSKIE said:
What I mean is, SMC in 2012, 2013, & 2014 lent only Junmar (of San Miguel Beer), Japeth (of Ginebra) & Pingris (of San Mig Coffeee/BMeg now known as Magnolia) for Gilas which was known as "one-player-per-team" policy.

Then in 2015, SMC & even ROS didn't lend any of its players to Gilas, hence the inclussion of aging players llke Dondon Hontiveros, Asi Taulava, Sonny Thoss in the Gilas line up. It was only Pingris from the SMC camp who defied this policy by SMC that he still suited up for Gilas in 2015 which was very commendable as Ping showed extra ordinary loyalty to the national team.

Without the one-player-per-team policy by SMC, coach Chot would have wanted players like Marcio Lassiter & James Yap in the Gilas team in 2012, 2013 & 2014.
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Never forget what they took from us. We could have done so much more if they didn't sabotage our NT.

Tsongo and Lutz would have helped even though Lutz never regained his shooting. Guys like Yap and David didn't really fare well in FIBA. It was always one dimension shooters like Chan and Fonacier who were more effective.

Slaughter maybe? That's one "ok" big we could have used instead on relying on geriatric players like Asi and Thoss
 
Slaughter's best season was 2015, so he would been definitely boosted the 2015 Silver Medalist team, along with JMF. Damn, what an olympic stint we missed out just because of politics I guess.
 
Metta said:
OKC (league-best defense) has become Warriors 2.0. When Chet went down, they concocted a lineup beyond "Small Ball," they went Micro Ball (even going 6'5 and below lineup in spurts). Speed over size and horizontal rim protection instead of vertical rim protection. Protect the whole paint instead of the basket.

When the Lakers traded away AD, they also employed the same philosophy. It was best demonstrated when they held Jokic to 7 shots, he couldn't do anything in the paint.

I've said before that Gilas should have guys in the lineup who are versatile enough to employ the same tactic. It matches well against 5-out teams (shooters) and also serves as an insurance when our fragile bigs can't play.
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I think we have Dwight and JB, maybe Malonzo, for versatility on defense at the wing.

Outside the pool, I think Will Navarro, Francis Lopez, and maybe Mark Belmonte can be candidates. Who else can be good personnel for the OKC small ball?
 
IPC said:
On the SMC side, apart from June Mar, Pingris, and Japeth, which FIBA-eligible players from 2012 would be useful for Gilas, and could not be easily replaced?​​
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One of the player I believe was Joe De Vance. Why?he can shoot 3 points,good fit for pick and pop.He has a good size for defense, even though a bit slow. He is useful for Gilas lack of bigs who can shoot 3's and could not be easily replaced.

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