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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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Come off the bench 3,but I don't see him in big FIBA tournaments if CTC has all his tall SF in the team not counting his combo forwards.

Like I mentioned in the other thread, I think his value in Gilas will be his shooting.

Growing up, he wasn't considered/relied upon as a shooter because he brought so much more to the table. But with his SGA stint and final year with DLSU, he showed he's a really good shooter.

If he further develops it, I think he has the potential to be an elite shooter. That's a Gilas need he can fill along with his passing.
 
for the coming final window this Feb. I do hope Carl, Kevin and Mason should step up on the next level their assertiveness

in preparation for FIBA Asia Cup.

honestly, as a fan I'm holding back a little bit because those dudes alongside AJ and Jaime are glassy with the exception of Mason

who haven't experience any major "ouch". (ilayo po ng sampung layo, wag po sana).

with the imminent entry of QMB and the exemption of AK34

and the buzzing around that Ron Jr and Caelum Harris possible inclusion to the pool moving forward (that's the way it has to be)

Gilas now has the tools to compete against the AUS combo of Team B + C and TB's combo of Team A + B for the Gold medal match

but that would only be possible if the SBP bosses diligently works on the papers of those ballers.

let set aside the narrative about Kai this year. let him heal the natural way.

that's the initial murmuring that I've heard, I hope it's 100 percent confirm.

honestly going under the knife is a different thing.
 
Its kinda frustrating that we can't produce quality NCAA Div. 1 players in the US while other Asian countries like Japan, South Korea, Iran, China, & even Taiwan have already produced one or two (or even more). Kung maka produce man tayo, hindi naman FIBA eligible as in the cases of Jordan Clarkson, Jalen Green, Ron Harper, Jr., Dylan Harper.

I just hope that the rumor that 6-foot-9 Kamaka Hepa is FIBA-eligible is true & that Hepa would be interested to play for Gilas. I think Hepa did well playing in an NCAA div. 1 school in the US.
 
Its kinda frustrating that we can't produce quality NCAA Div. 1 players in the US while other Asian countries like Japan, South Korea, Iran, China, & even Taiwan have already produced one or two (or even more). Kung maka produce man tayo, hindi naman FIBA eligible as in the cases of Jordan Clarkson, Jalen Green, Ron Harper, Jr., Dylan Harper.

I just hope that the rumor that 6-foot-9 Kamaka Hepa is FIBA-eligible is true & that Hepa would be interested to play for Gilas. I think Hepa did well playing in an NCAA div. 1 school in the US.

We did produce some quality NCAA Division 1-eligible players. Matthew Wright spent his four years at St. Bonaventure University, a team in the Atlantic 10 Conference, where he averaged 16.3 PPG in his final season. Jordan Heading played at California Baptist University, a team in the Western Athletic Conference. While both of them played at low-major programs, it’s still NCAA Division 1, so we got to see their caliber of play. Matthew Wright did decently with Gilas, became a superstar in the PBA, and is still a quality player in the B.League. As for Jordan Heading, we all know what he's doing now and the quality of player he has become. He should definitely still be a locked-in spot for Gilas.

I noticed a pattern: both of them weren’t really homegrown players. They just happened to play for our youth team during their teenage years, which made them eligible to play as locals in Gilas.

We also had Dalph Panopio and AJ Edu from Kai’s batch. Kai would have been our very first US NCAA player who could have played in a high-major program. I still regret that he didn’t get offers from Auburn, Georgia Tech, and even Kentucky, which this article mentions: “At least seven universities are believed to be interested in Sotto, with the youngster detailing his visits to Auburn, Georgia Tech, and the most successful college in NCAA basketball history, Kentucky.” It makes me wonder why his agent missed these opportunities.

After Kai’s batch, we also had Caelum Harris, who committed to a mid-major program with Nevada. Unfortunately, eligibility issues happened, but he is still with an NJCAA Division 1 program. The key here is to get those Fil-foreigners to play on our youth team so they can be locked into their local status with Gilas. From there, it’s up to them to see where they end up in the US. Jacob Bayla and Alex Konov were also low-major Division 1 NCAA players at least. For our homegrown players, it would take a generational talent like Kai Sotto or Andy Gemao (hopefully he gets it done) to make it to the US NCAA.

Japan is taking the Fil-foreigner route to have US NCAA Division 1 players. Most of their eligible US NCAA Division 1 players right now are Black-Japanese. The exception is their generational talent, homegrown player Yuto Kawashima, who is currently playing at Seattle. We actually have a similar path as them in terms of producing US NCAA Division 1 players. The pattern seems to be: scout an eligible Fil-foreign kid, get them to play for our youth team, let them grow in the US afterward, and if they’re talented enough for Division 1, then here we go.

Here’s an article about how Kai Sotto was highly touted in college back then. What could have been damn.

https://www.olympics.com/en/news/basketball-filipino-kai-sotto-college-decision-georgia

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We cannot claim that Wright, Heading and Panopio are products of our basketball program as they spent only one summer or tournament for our youth systems. Most of their basketball fundamentals they learned and fine-tuned are 90% from their country of origin…. Edu is different as he played for Philippines more than 2 international youth tournaments both in 5x5 and 3x3…
 
We cannot claim that Wright, Heading and Panopio are products of our basketball program as they spent only one summer or tournament for our youth systems. Most of their basketball fundamentals they learned and fine-tuned are 90% from their country of origin…. Edu is different as he played for Philippines more than 2 international youth tournaments both in 5x5 and 3x3…

I am talking about our country itself producing them. I mean yes, they are not product of our basketball program (SBP). I literally said that they weren't homegrown, making them more of being foreign player who somehow became local for us. But hey, they do have filipino blood, thus it is valid to acknowledge them as the product of the Philippines itself.

Also, wasn't Edu also fine-tuned in UK/US? We just got him for his stint in 5x5 and 3x3, it's not like he stay in the Philippines after those stint. We don't even know if he did have a basketball background in the Philippines prior to his youth stint.

If Heading, Wright, Panopio can't be consider as product of our basketball program, so is Edu.

I can only consider a player as a product of our local basketball program, if he is homegrown. But it's just my opinion.

Whether they are product of our basketball program or not, they still have filipino blood, thus making them product of the country itself.
 
I am talking about our country itself producing them. I mean yes, they are not product of our basketball program (SBP). I literally said that they weren't homegrown, making them more of being foreign player who somehow became local for us. But hey, they do have filipino blood, thus it is valid to acknowledge them as the product of the Philippines itself.

Also, wasn't Edu also fine-tuned in UK/US? We just got him for his stint in 5x5 and 3x3, it's not like he stay in the Philippines after those stint. We don't even know if he did have a basketball background in the Philippines prior to his youth stint.

If Heading, Wright, Panopio can't be consider as product of our basketball program, so is Edu.

I can only consider a player as a product of our local basketball program, if he is homegrown. But it's just my opinion.

Whether they are product of our basketball program or not, they still have filipino blood, thus making them product of the country itself.

I think the main difference between JP Hafus and Filfors is that they actually developed theirs. Hachimura played in JP until senior high school. Most of their Hafus are homegrowns. Unfortunatey I don't agree with you. Basketball speaking I consider only homegrowns or those who played HS basketball locally as our product. JP Hafus are not comparable to foreign bred Filfors. Hachimura is more like Abueva or Castro, born and bred locally. The only difference is he was trained to have perimeter skills early on and he was good enough to join a D1 school and then became a full-fledged NBA player.
 
I think the main difference between JP Hafus and Filfors is that they actually developed theirs. Hachimura played in JP until senior high school. Most of their Hafus are homegrowns. Unfortunatey I don't agree with you. Basketball speaking I consider only homegrowns or those who played HS basketball locally as our product. JP Hafus are not comparable to foreign bred Filfors. Hachimura is more like Abueva or Castro, born and bred locally. The only difference is he was trained to have perimeter skills early on and he was good enough to join a D1 school and then became a full-fledged NBA player.

Fair enough, I stand corrected on that part. I did not know that Hachimura actually played high school basketball in Japan lol. I might include Akira Jacobs as a homegrown since he already played as a developmental player in BLeague. I got carried away of them being half-foreign that I did not realize most of them actually played in Japan prior to their youth stint.
 
Aside from Japeth and Ael Banal who are the other homegrown players who played college ball in the US? There was a tall chinoy who took medicine who's name escapes me
 
Aside from Japeth and Ael Banal who are the other homegrown players who played college ball in the US? There was a tall chinoy who took medicine who's name escapes me

The great Kobe P.

Kobe actually did the smartest /most efficient way to get into D1 (similar to the LaVar blueprint).

It starts with the genes. Identify a child who has tall parents with athletic backgrounds. Train them early as guards. Make it a goal to get into a US high school that's a basketball powerhouse and/or a travel team sponsored by shoe companies (he got into Compton Magic and thus got included in Adidas elite camps). Attend elite camps/exposure tournaments as much as possible before senior year of high school (he got his offer during junior year).

He did everything right up to that point and got into D1.
 
Aside from Japeth and Ael Banal who are the other homegrown players who played college ball in the US? There was a tall chinoy who took medicine who's name escapes me

The Reyes Siblings are trying to go to D1 schools. Both are enrolled in US HS after transferring from Manila.
 
The great Kobe P.

Kobe actually did the smartest /most efficient way to get into D1 (similar to the LaVar blueprint).

It starts with the genes. Identify a child who has tall parents with athletic backgrounds. Train them early as guards. Make it a goal to get into a US high school that's a basketball powerhouse and/or a travel team sponsored by shoe companies (he got into Compton Magic and thus got included in Adidas elite camps). Attend elite camps/exposure tournaments as much as possible before senior year of high school (he got his offer during junior year).

He did everything right up to that point and got into D1.

How could I forget lol. Dude had so much potential and his build up was insane. Trained by legends, and supposedly can play PG like Magsanoc. His videos where everywhere, he joined all the dunk contest that he can, he represented us in a lot of tourneys. All of that went to waste. Not even playing basketball ATM..
 
How could I forget lol. Dude had so much potential and his build up was insane. Trained by legends, and supposedly can play PG like Magsanoc. His videos where everywhere, he joined all the dunk contest that he can, he represented us in a lot of tourneys. All of that went to waste. Not even playing basketball ATM..

And will probably never play competitively again.

Guy is turning 28 this year.

Best he can aim for is the PBA. He’d be a nice backup for Malonzo.
 
And will probably never play competitively again.

Guy is turning 28 this year.

Best he can aim for is the PBA. He’d be a nice backup for Malonzo.

28 years old is the starting age of most rookies in the PBA anyway lol.
 
And will probably never play competitively again.

Guy is turning 28 this year.

Best he can aim for is the PBA. He’d be a nice backup for Malonzo.

28 years old is the starting age of most rookies in the PBA anyway lol. He would be serviceable for atleast 7 years, I just want him to become a PBA superstar in 2-3 years just to see him again don the national colors.
 
But Kobe Paras is too busy with vaginas to bother with balls. haha With all his hype, he is nothing more than a national disappointment. All the tools to reach the NBA but the attitude of a diva.
 
What I'm thinking is this:
Who would you assign to defend these natural shooting guards in Asia-Oceania basketball?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNn6GFl16Mc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvAu-y6WGEQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IhbXnsZscE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWFtAligD6o

Would you put a KQ to defend any of those guys? Or you would put a Dwight Ramos or Chris Newsome (who are both natural 2-guards) instead? I doubt KQ can keep in step with those guys.

Yeah, KQ is laterally slow and realistically not a great perimeter defender but if his hypothetical role in Gilas was as a shooter he’d be making up for it on offense while the coach schemes to hide him on defense. He would be a shooter on offense and probably switch to guarding the weaker offensive guy on defense

And it's easier to hide a perimeter player on defense than it is a big man.
 
28 years old is the starting age of most rookies in the PBA anyway lol. He would be serviceable for atleast 7 years, I just want him to become a PBA superstar in 2-3 years just to see him again don the national colors.

Kahit hindi superstar.

At least a very reliable role player.

At 6'6, he can be a solid 3-D guy. He has an outside shot and can defend during his NCAA form.
 
Last Decade, We always thought Rayray Parks and Kobe Paras will be cruicial part of our Future (which in now) Gilas Core.

But obviously, there were a lot of off-court issues and factors that stopped them from being ones.

Right now, Dwight kinda replaced our ideal role of Rayray. And Tamayo/ Oftana kinda replaced Kobe.
 
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