Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[live_evil2]

I disagree, he just needs the right wing defenders. But moot point as it wont happen anyway.

So how is KQ going to defend and get rebounds off people like Steve Adams? or Hachimura? or Cabocio? The guy is 6'4" - 6'5" in height. Just look at how Fajardo destroys defenders who have the same height as KQ and Fajardo is just a little above average center in world basketball. There are many Fajardos when we go to the level of World Basketball.

 

[sroth38392]

I disagree, he just needs the right wing defenders. But moot point as it wont happen anyway.

KQ at 5 is pushing it. Tbh.

He’d get eaten alive by Al-Dwairi, Zhou, Kay, and Abercrombie on the paint.

Maybe could work against small teams like Taiwan or Bahrain.

 

[magic_chiongson2]

KQ at 2 worked for awhile in that dubai tournament with strong group, there weren't that many speedy guards from mid-east teams. ideally he's a 3 at the world level, gilas is thin at that position anyway. need to improve his perimeter defense tho

also justin gutang is looking like a good newsome replacement already

 

[Tuck2]

KQ is probably the 2nd best shooter , passer on the team.

Next to brownlee and thompson but he might be behind on everything else compared to the guys in his position

 

[Rds2]

KQ at 2 worked for awhile in that dubai tournament with strong group, there weren't that many speedy guards from mid-east teams. ideally he's a 3 at the world level, gilas is thin at that position anyway. need to improve his perimeter defense tho

also justin gutang is looking like a good newsome replacement already

KQ was more of a spot-up shooter then. It helped that he was playing with NBA and G league guys. Watching his debut in KBL it looks like he will play the 4 full time. He improved his team with his shooting. Although he was overpowered by Oh Sekeun in the post a couple of times, he was making his 3s and showed good effort against the bigger Sekeun. Well until the unfortunate landing spot foul by Sekeun. His team is pretty bad. Once he recovers he will definitely get a lot of playing time.

 

[thatweirdguy2]

KQ at 2 worked for awhile in that dubai tournament with strong group, there weren't that many speedy guards from mid-east teams. ideally he's a 3 at the world level, gilas is thin at that position anyway. need to improve his perimeter defense tho

also justin gutang is looking like a good newsome replacement already

Not that I'm doubting KQ but will he be better than other candidates at the 3 spot like Navarro, Oftana, Orme etc. KQ has been awesome in the UAAP but the guys the other guys in the "pool" are MVP level players too in their amateur days. And we can all agree we need to improve our defense and shooting at that position.

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

we do hope that it ain't that serious.

he had some issues with that ankle before

let's reserve KQ, Jaime and AJ for the preparation of FIBA Asia Cup instead

Man oh Man!!

the signs of cracks are beginning to show in our core

Dwight, Scooty and Carl also had some history of being glassy.

the clamor of adding some fresh bodies in our current pool is really a

very serious options that need to re-consider nowadays.

 

[ARMIR2]

we do hope that it ain't that serious.

he had some issues with that ankle before

let's reserve KQ, Jaime and AJ for the preparation of FIBA Asia Cup instead

Man oh Man!!

the signs of cracks are beginning to show in our core

Dwight, Scooty and Carl also had some history of being glassy.

the clamor of adding some fresh bodies in our current pool is really a

very serious options that need to re-consider nowadays.

Maybe if only KQ didn't rush it to get to the KBL too soon,after a UAAP tournament maybe a 2 months of rest at least.

 

[IPC2]

Malonzo looked very slow and tentative in the Ginebra game. I don't know how long he will get to his previous form but I am not optimistic it will be any time soon. The Achilles tendon is much worse than the ACL to tear. Although this is just a rupture so hopefully it will not be as worse. Remember that of all the NBA players who tore an Achilless tendon only KD was still at a high level after. Klay Thompson's mobility suffered a lot after the injury. As a result he is far from the player he was in his prime.

Dominique Wilkins got his old form back after tearing his Achilles.

And Achilles tear was ruled out when Malonzo injured his calf.

 

[Rds2]

Dominique Wilkins got his old form back after tearing his Achilles.

And Achilles tear was ruled out when Malonzo injured his calf.

Yeah. Maybe it's just old reporting about the Achilles. I didn't follow Wilkins. But it ended Isaiah Thomas's career and essentially ended Kobe's career. Rudy Gay also. I think I heard that Achilles from the PBA commentators. Saying something about Malonzo bulked up to strengthen it. This is actually weird. This reminded me of Zave Lucero bulking up for the PBA which by the way he is losing and getting close to to his college form. But by how Malonzo played last game it would be foolish to push him to Gilas duty anytime soon.

 

[IPC2]

Yeah. Maybe it's just old reporting about the Achilles. I didn't follow Wilkins. But it ended Isaiah Thomas's career and essentially ended Kobe's career. Rudy Gay also. I think I heard that Achilles from the PBA commentators. Saying something about Malonzo bulked up to strengthen it. This is actually weird. This reminded me of Zave Lucero bulking up for the PBA which by the way he is losing and getting close to to his college form. But by how Malonzo played last game it would be foolish to push him to Gilas duty anytime soon.

Zav has been playing 3 for Mags lately, which was good to see.

As for Malonzo, if he plans on keeping the added weight, he'll need to rely less on athletic moves. And hope it doesn't affect his mobility too much. He'll still need to be mobile enough to guard the perimeter. Ginebra has 3 games left in the elims, maybe we can use that (and some playoff games) to assess him as time goes on, to see if he's fit to go in the Gilas rotation.

 

[Metta2]

Malonzo had a calf injury and not an achilles injury. There was even an option for him to just rest it and let it heal on its own but there was a chance his explosiveness will diminish if he went with that. Surgery on his calf was the option that gave him better odds of keeping his explosiveness.

It's normal that he's still testing his legs and not going all out, it can take a while mentally to fully trust his body.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

Not that I'm doubting KQ but will he be better than other candidates at the 3 spot like Navarro, Oftana, Orme etc. KQ has been awesome in the UAAP but the guys the other guys in the "pool" are MVP level players too in their amateur days. And we can all agree we need to improve our defense and shooting at that position.

I think offense wise, KQ is better in the FIBA game than the struggling Calvin Oftana & Will Navarro (who I think is more of a defensive specialist). I just don't know if how KQ fares with either Oftana & Navarro in terms of defense.

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

Maybe if only KQ didn't rush it to get to the KBL too soon,after a UAAP tournament maybe a 2 months of rest at least.

Good Day Sir Armir,

I totally agree.

anyway SK's cold snowy weather, those million contract and hot sexy Koreans in the stand "ay mahirap pag hintayin ng matagal". trans. grab it while it's hot.

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

it's really a foolish if they put Jaime for next month's final window.

let's reserve him and the other glassy guys to the main dance

we've already lost Kai..so better think of the future.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

Injuries to AJ Edu, Jamie Malonzo, & recently to Kai Sotto & Kevin Quiambao in a span of 1 year simply suggests the need for coach Tim to expand his pool. I'm not talking about expanding the Gilas pool/team to 10 players or more. I'm just talking about adding 3 to 4 players to the Gilas pool so as the unavailability of some players from time to tim, usually becoz of injuries, will not hurt the team that much. I understand coach Tim's apprehension of making a big pool of players for Gilas becoz having a big pool would mean difficulty in developing team cohesion or chemistry. But I think the ideal No. Of players in a national pool is around 18 players. Also, this is a 4-year cycle so coach Tim has all the time in the world to develop cohesion & chemistry in the pool/team.

Of course, during their early stint with Gilas the additional players would struggle learning & adjusting with the triangle, but as time goes by, as they practice more & play more games with Gilas, they will get more adjusted & accustomed to coach Tim's system.

 

[sroth38392]

Injuries to AJ Edu, Jamie Malonzo, & recently to Kai Sotto & Kevin Quiambao in a span of 1 year simply suggests the need for coach Tim to expand his pool. I'm not talking about expanding the Gilas pool/team to 10 players or more. I'm just talking about adding 3 to 4 players to the Gilas pool so as the unavailability of some players from time to tim, usually becoz of injuries, will not hurt the team that much. I understand coach Tim's apprehension of making a big pool of players for Gilas becoz having a big pool would mean difficulty in developing team cohesion or chemistry. But I think the ideal No. Of players in a national pool is around 18 players. Also, this is a 4-year cycle so coach Tim has all the time in the world to develop cohesion & chemistry in the pool/team.

Of course, during their early stint with Gilas the additional players would struggle learning & adjusting with the triangle, but as time goes by, as they practice more & play more games with Gilas, they will get more adjusted & accustomed to coach Tim's system.

SJ, RJ, Heading, Navarro, Baltazar, and QMB (if he’s eligible) are obvious must-includes in the pool.

I hope Tim reconsiders prior to the Asia Cup.

Next window is understandable as it’s only two games and not a lot can be done.

I just hope Edu stays healthy till then.

 

[Rds2]

SJ, RJ, Heading, Navarro, Baltazar, and QMB (if he’s eligible) are obvious must-includes in the pool.

I hope Tim reconsiders prior to the Asia Cup.

Next window is understandable as it’s only two games and not a lot can be done.

I just hope Edu stays healthy till then.

At this point I just think its politics. It seems Chua doesnt want certain guys. Probably guys like Berto, Heading, Balti. Cone is losing warm bodies. The funny thing is he would rather get a 3rd level guy like Cu than add somebody more qualified to the pool.

 

[Silent Killer2]

Injuries to AJ Edu, Jamie Malonzo, & recently to Kai Sotto & Kevin Quiambao in a span of 1 year simply suggests the need for coach Tim to expand his pool. I'm not talking about expanding the Gilas pool/team to 10 players or more. I'm just talking about adding 3 to 4 players to the Gilas pool so as the unavailability of some players from time to tim, usually becoz of injuries, will not hurt the team that much. I understand coach Tim's apprehension of making a big pool of players for Gilas becoz having a big pool would mean difficulty in developing team cohesion or chemistry. But I think the ideal No. Of players in a national pool is around 18 players. Also, this is a 4-year cycle so coach Tim has all the time in the world to develop cohesion & chemistry in the pool/team.

Of course, during their early stint with Gilas the additional players would struggle learning & adjusting with the triangle, but as time goes by, as they practice more & play more games with Gilas, they will get more adjusted & accustomed to coach Tim's system.

simple solution is to have a team b and assign one of his assistants to handle team b with system so once that he’s ripe for team A, It’s easy transition.

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

I fully understand CTC's apprehension on why he is not warm of a bigger pool because of some factors.

for the coming Feb. window which we considered as a non-bearing games to us

I think GSM players Maverick, Ralph and Japeth fits the narrative.

I totally agree on adding QMB if indeed his green covered document has just been renewed(?)

if AK34's exemption process is still in the back burner then let him occupy that naturalize spot for the meantime

and let JB rest in preparation for that main event.

as for RJ there's no doubt about his skillsets against mid-tier Asian teams he can compete with them no argument on that

but if the storyline is pitting him against the likes of the Webster bros. of the TB., Arakji of the LEB, Ailun of CHI, Cotton of AUS,

even the much smaller Akatsuki's like Yuri and Yuki whom we all know schooled the Blitz during his B. League days.

well the bloodline of the Flying A needs some more seasoning to toughen his mojo moving forward.

if some are proposing for players such as Balti, Heading, Navarro, Geo among others to be included in that small pool

well I later realized that they need an amount of time to familiarize with the system

so I think the ideal scenario is to put them after this conference for the preparation for the actual training camp

for 2025 FIBA Asia Cup

it does makes sense.