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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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Hoops Highlights reviewed 2024 for Gilas.


He mentioned defense, ball movement, and playing together as the pillars for this Gilas near the end of the video. Hope that becomes part of our team identity moving forward, especially defense.
 
Come to think of it, a lot of our lineups then were actually big. We had a center like Douthit, Blatche, June Mar and a four like Ping, RDO, Troy, and even Japeth. Small in terms of being undersized (especially at the 3 when Pogoy, Abueva, and Thirdy played there), yes, but not really small in the sense that we played small ball. In my opinion, the basis of small ball is the skillsets of the players in the 4 and 5 spots. A wing or a four playing 5 (Draymond Green, Chris Bosh, Amar'e Stoudemire, AD), a wing playing the 4 spot (KD, Shane Battier, Shawn Marion), or both.

And like mathematician said, we didn't have the tools for small ball until recently. We just recently got small ball fours in Navarro, Malonzo, JB, and even Dwight (thankfully he's just a 2/3 now under Cone). Heck, Carl and AJ can be small ball fives (Carl has to improve his defense, though). Before then, I think 6'2" Abueva was our only small ball four.

I’d like to see a small ball 5 of:

Bennie
Tamayo
KQ
Dwight
Newsome

This is true small ball. Not the midget ball of Chot.
 
I’d like to see a small ball 5 of:

Bennie
Tamayo
KQ
Dwight
Newsome

This is true small ball. Not the midget ball of Chot.

That small ball lineup could use some work on defense at the 3-5 positions. Hahahahahaha. Hopefully, Quiambao and Carl improve their defense. Dwight and Newsome are good perimeter defenders, though. I've seen Caruso and Lonzo anchor the Bulls defense in 2020-21.

Offensively, that lineup can shoot. Shot creators in Carl, Bennie, and even Dwight and Newsome. Dwight and Newsome can bring up the ball.
 
Come to think of it, a lot of our lineups then were actually big. We had a center like Douthit, Blatche, June Mar and a four like Ping, RDO, Troy, and even Japeth. Small in terms of being undersized (especially at the 3 when Pogoy, Abueva, and Thirdy played there), yes, but not really small in the sense that we played small ball. In my opinion, the basis of small ball is the skillsets of the players in the 4 and 5 spots. A wing or a four playing 5 (Draymond Green, Chris Bosh, Amar'e Stoudemire, AD), a wing playing the 4 spot (KD, Shane Battier, Shawn Marion), or both.

And like mathematician said, we didn't have the tools for small ball until recently. We just recently got small ball fours in Navarro, Malonzo, JB, and even Dwight (thankfully he's just a 2/3 now under Cone). Heck, Carl and AJ can be small ball fives (Carl has to improve his defense, though). Before then, I think 6'2" Abueva was our only small ball four.

I'd argue Blatche is a small-ball 5, with his ballhandling, outside shooting, and preference on playing from the outside in. IMO, if Blatche played in the 90's he'll strictly play at the 4 spot.
 
I'd argue Blatche is a small-ball 5, with his ballhandling, outside shooting, and preference on playing from the outside in. IMO, if Blatche played in the 90's he'll strictly play at the 4 spot.

Oh, yeah, Blatche was a 4 in the NBA before we naturalized him.

So technically, we did play small ball when Blatche was our center. Hahahahaha.
 
Hoops Highlights reviewed 2024 for Gilas.


He mentioned defense, ball movement, and playing together as the pillars for this Gilas near the end of the video. Hope that becomes part of our team identity moving forward, especially defense.

The pillars are Tim Cone, Al Francis Chua and Erika Dy. I'd give these 3 a lot of credit.
 
Arent you concern once boatwright becomes NP and QMB as local, tamayo and Kquiam wont get expose and wont get PT..
 
Hoops Highlights reviewed 2024 for Gilas.


He mentioned defense, ball movement, and playing together as the pillars for this Gilas near the end of the video. Hope that becomes part of our team identity moving forward, especially defense.

Really nice to see Gilas top the asia cup qualifiers on assists, a nice change of pace from the 1 on 1 dribble drive of past Gilas
 
Arent you concern once boatwright becomes NP and QMB as local, tamayo and Kquiam wont get expose and wont get PT..

If that would make the team better/stronger, then I don't mind about it?

I think Sir SK has a valid concern.​ Our young core is a 23-year-old Carl and Quiambao, 22-year-old Kai, 24-year-old AJ, and 26-year-old Dwight Ramos (technically, 26 isn't that young in basketball terms, but still). Maybe 20-year-old Mason. The next-youngest after Dwight in the current 14-man pool is 28-year-old Jamie Malonzo, who's been injured since April.

We will need to expose our young core as much as possible to better strengthen our continuity, which has been an important part of our team chemistry.
 
Arent you concern once boatwright becomes NP and QMB as local, tamayo and Kquiam wont get expose and wont get PT..

Boatwright and QMB are essentially replacing rotation-players too in Brownlee and Fajardo/Edu. Tamayo and KQ will get their usual minutes, with upticks on playing time against the low-tier teams.
 
Really nice to see Gilas top the asia cup qualifiers on assists, a nice change of pace from the 1 on 1 dribble drive of past Gilas

It's an identity of a Tim Cone team, which is nice to see translate in the international stage.
 
Frontcourt is already loaded. It doesnt need to natiralize a player like boatwright. They should get harper jr. Or ellis instead
 
Really nice to see Gilas top the asia cup qualifiers on assists, a nice change of pace from the 1 on 1 dribble drive of past Gilas

Dribble Drive doesn’t have to be 1-on-1.

The issue with Chot’s DDO is it didn’t have the right players to run it effectively.

The short prep time also meant chemistry cannot be established so players don’t know how and where to move on the court off the ball.

DDO under Chot was more like ISO ball with dribble penetration as the first offensive option.

A well executed DDO is like that of NZ, Italy, and DR.
 
Dribble Drive doesn’t have to be 1-on-1.

The issue with Chot’s DDO is it didn’t have the right players to run it effectively.

The short prep time also meant chemistry cannot be established so players don’t know how and where to move on the court off the ball.

DDO under Chot was more like ISO ball with dribble penetration as the first offensive option.

A well executed DDO is like that of NZ, Italy, and DR.

Thats fair, it really is a talent reliant play style
 
Frontcourt is already loaded. It doesnt need to natiralize a player like boatwright. They should get harper jr. Or ellis instead

I agree that Gilas has a deep pool of big men with Sotto, Edu, QMB, Amos, Baltazar and Phillips. But of course availability (injuries) and eligibility (Phillips and QMB) are major concerns. But I do agree that the next naturalized players should be more like in the mold of Brownlee who can create multiple scoring opportunities and be versatile enough to play multiple positions.
 
I agree that Gilas has a deep pool of big men with Sotto, Edu, QMB, Amos, Baltazar and Phillips. But of course availability (injuries) and eligibility (Phillips and QMB) are major concerns. But I do agree that the next naturalized players should be more like in the mold of Brownlee who can create multiple scoring opportunities and be versatile enough to play multiple positions.

"mold of Brownlee"
Cone says 'versatile' Boatwright much like Brownlee - only 3, 4 inches taller

"can create multiple scoring opportunities"
Bennie Boatwright was a 6-foot-10, 235-pound forward who could score from anywhere on the court

"play multiple positions"
Good size to play multiple positions
 
I agree that Gilas has a deep pool of big men with Sotto, Edu, QMB, Amos, Baltazar and Phillips. But of course availability (injuries) and eligibility (Phillips and QMB) are major concerns. But I do agree that the next naturalized players should be more like in the mold of Brownlee who can create multiple scoring opportunities and be versatile enough to play multiple positions.

I think once AJ hits 30, I reckon we'll need to naturalize a big who can protect the paint, ideally born in the range of 2004-2010. The interior defender is a bigman profile where I think we don't have much depth. I dunno if we will have another eligible big who can protect the paint like Kai, AJ, or even Japeth.
 
Frontcourt is already loaded. It doesnt need to natiralize a player like boatwright. They should get harper jr. Or ellis instead

They just need a humble and skilled player like Brownlee which converted into a strong leader in the court.
 
Thats fair, it really is a talent reliant play style

Chot needed multiple penetration and treats like Castro, Jimmy, Blatche etc. With 2023 edition, he relied to much on JC and not spread the offense like the 2014 edition.
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