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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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Nope, it is Jaworski who is the all-time greatest point guard. Johnny A, Castro, Alapag fight for second.
 
My dream Team

Guards
Devon Harp
Newsome
Caguiao
TR7

Forwards
Norwood
Ramos
JB
Danny S

C's
Asi
Edu
Kai
Junmar

HC: Spoelstra

Reserves
Abando
Ritualo
Hontiveros
 
Silent Killer said:
I'll go with the dynamite danny..
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As lethal an offensive weapon Danny Seigle was during his prime, he was a deadweight on defense however. I think Fadi El Khatib had decent defense & was equally deadly on the offensive end. Seigle's edge over Fadi was the former's athleticism. Fadi was slowmo kung gumalaw & didn't have the hops of Seigle but Fadi is very difficult to stop becoz of superb offensive skills. Both Seigle & Fadi were excellent scorers hence it would have been a marque match up between the 2.

If I'm to choose between the 2, I'll go with Fadi El Khatib.
 
Personally think our current pool probably has the best players on RP NT ever, for all their accolades guys like Caguioa, Yap, Castro (in world level) are not effective internationally. Maybe a few tweaks here and there like Norwood for Calvin or Jamie but im not trading CJ for Caguioa. Or Castro for Newsome.
 
Joe Yabuki said:
Personally think our current pool probably has the best players on RP NT ever, for all their accolades guys like Caguioa, Yap, Castro (in world level) are not effective internationally. Maybe a few tweaks here and there like Norwood for Calvin or Jamie but im not trading CJ for Caguioa. Or Castro for Newsome.
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I think size is the significant difference between our current national team from the previous iterations of RP national team. Of course Kai (being 7-foot-2) & AJ Edu (being 6-foot-10 who can play both the center & power forward positions) are significant upgrades from our previous bigs in the national team, but I think there is also a significant upgrade in the wing positions with 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos (who can play both the 2 & 3 positions), 6-5 Calvin Oftana who is a natural small forward & 6-5 Kevin Quiambao. Wala pa nga sina 6-foot-6 Will Navarro & 6-foot-5 Ken Tuffin who are both natural small forward & also deserve to be in the national team.

As highly skilled players like 6-foot-flat Mark Caguioa (a natural 2-guard), 5-foot-10 Terrence Romeo (a combo guard), 5-foot-9 Jayson Castro (point guard), 5-foot-9 Jimmy Alapag (point guard) & 6-foot-3 James Yap (who played mostly as a small forward) are/were, they were outsized for the respective positions that they played in the national team. So for instance, even if a 6-foot-flat Mark Caguioa was a better scorer than a 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos, the latter's significant height advantage over the former will have more impact in the FIBA game than the former's edge on offensive skills over the latter. For instance, 5-foot-10 Terrence Romeo may be more skilled than a 6-foot-1 CJ Perez, but the latter's 3-inch height advantage over the former will matter more in the FIBA game than the former's edge in offensive skills over the latter.
 
JAMSKIE said:
I think size is the significant difference between our current national team from the previous iterations of RP national team. Of course Kai (being 7-foot-2) & AJ Edu (being 6-foot-10 who can play both the center & power forward positions) are significant upgrades from our previous bigs in the national team, but I think there is also a significant upgrade in the wing positions with 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos (who can play both the 2 & 3 positions), 6-5 Calvin Oftana who is a natural small forward & 6-5 Kevin Quiambao. Wala pa nga sina 6-foot-6 Will Navarro & 6-foot-5 Ken Tuffin who are both natural small forward & also deserve to be in the national team.

As highly skilled players like 6-foot-flat Mark Caguioa (a natural 2-guard), 5-foot-10 Terrence Romeo (a combo guard), 5-foot-9 Jayson Castro (point guard), 5-foot-9 Jimmy Alapag (point guard) & 6-foot-3 James Yap (who played mostly as a small forward) are/were, they were outsized for the respective positions that they played in the national team. So for instance, even if a 6-foot-flat Mark Caguioa was a better scorer than a 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos, the latter's significant height advantage over the former will have more impact in the FIBA game than the former's edge on offensive skills over the latter. For instance, 5-foot-10 Terrence Romeo may be more skilled than a 6-foot-1 CJ Perez, but the latter's 3-inch height advantage over the former will matter more in the FIBA game than the former's edge in offensive skills over the latter.
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We are still counting inches. I thought, looking at the Japan lineup, we would have stopped that. Skills over height. Look at OKC, with a starting lineup of 6'6" and below. They do have the skills and ability, but they are still small compared to other lineups.
 
prime Romeo was a joy to watch in FIBA. had absolutely no fear whatsoever. he had the swagger and the mamba mentality.
 
zairex said:
We are still counting inches. I thought, looking at the Japan lineup, we would have stopped that. Skills over height. Look at OKC, with a starting lineup of 6'6" and below. They do have the skills and ability, but they are still small compared to other lineups.
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Well there are really players who are just too skilled, too quick & athletic & too smart to make up for their inferiority in height/size & are capable of getting the better of their bigger/taller opponents. But these players are exception to the rule rather than the rule & they are just few of them. A prime example is Japan's diminutive point guard Yuki Kawamura who is perhaps the best point guard of Asia despite being significantly outsized by most (if not all) point guards in Asia, moreso in world level basketball.
 
JAMSKIE said:
I think size is the significant difference between our current national team from the previous iterations of RP national team. Of course Kai (being 7-foot-2) & AJ Edu (being 6-foot-10 who can play both the center & power forward positions) are significant upgrades from our previous bigs in the national team, but I think there is also a significant upgrade in the wing positions with 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos (who can play both the 2 & 3 positions), 6-5 Calvin Oftana who is a natural small forward & 6-5 Kevin Quiambao. Wala pa nga sina 6-foot-6 Will Navarro & 6-foot-5 Ken Tuffin who are both natural small forward & also deserve to be in the national team.

As highly skilled players like 6-foot-flat Mark Caguioa (a natural 2-guard), 5-foot-10 Terrence Romeo (a combo guard), 5-foot-9 Jayson Castro (point guard), 5-foot-9 Jimmy Alapag (point guard) & 6-foot-3 James Yap (who played mostly as a small forward) are/were, they were outsized for the respective positions that they played in the national team. So for instance, even if a 6-foot-flat Mark Caguioa was a better scorer than a 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos, the latter's significant height advantage over the former will have more impact in the FIBA game than the former's edge on offensive skills over the latter. For instance, 5-foot-10 Terrence Romeo may be more skilled than a 6-foot-1 CJ Perez, but the latter's 3-inch height advantage over the former will matter more in the FIBA game than the former's edge in offensive skills over the latter.
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zairex said:
We are still counting inches. I thought, looking at the Japan lineup, we would have stopped that. Skills over height. Look at OKC, with a starting lineup of 6'6" and below. They do have the skills and ability, but they are still small compared to other lineups.
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I don't think it's just the height, e. It's the versatility with that height as well. Right now, we have four guards measuring 6'1" and above in Scottie, Newsome, Dwight, and CJ, who can reasonably defend at the FIBA level and bring the ball up, even if guys like Dwight could be just secondary ballhandlers. We have 6'5"+ wings in Oftana, Malonzo, and Quiambao. Carl Tamayo has the skillset of a tweener at 6'7", hope Mason will have that too (and I hope both, as well as other 6'6"-6'8" tweeners can make improvements on defense). 7'2" Kai and 6'10" AJ are two FIBA-eligible bigs who are playable at the FIBA level and can contribute in protecting the rim. Of course, there's JB, who at 6'6" can bring the ball up, score, pass, and defend.
 
JAMSKIE said:
Well there are really players who are just too skilled, too quick & athletic & too smart to make up for their inferiority in height/size & are capable of getting the better of their bigger/taller opponents. But these players are exception to the rule rather than the rule & they are just few of them. A prime example is Japan's diminutive point guard Yuki Kawamura who is perhaps the best point guard of Asia despite being significantly outsized by most (if not all) point guards in Asia, moreso in world level basketball.
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We all need a few of them to make the team anyway. I still believe Araji is the best PG in Asia.
 
honestly, Philippine basketball hasn't produce yet a PG in the same breath as "The Director", "The Flying A" and "Ra Ra Rah" for me those legends are the top 3 of the food chain

except for the "The Director" whom I don't think was schooled by the other PG of the other backyards and held his own out there

we all know what happened to to "The Flying A" and Ra Ra Rah esp. when they faced that cerebral fat PG of SK during those heart breaking Asian Games of 98 and 2002 respectively

Sir Dotch has a very rich information on that historic moments of 1997 to 2002 timeline

despite of that coach Go Johnny Be Good and coach Olsen occupies the top 3 of the best PG.

in fairness to "the Blur" he is a great PG as well no argument there but my standard why I pick those 3 was due to the fact that the "Game Plan" of both Coach Ron and Coach Tim at

that time has a lot of layers and sequence unto it compared to CCR's in-famous "Do or Die Offense" just gave the ball to Jayson Castro or Jordan Clarkson, it's "Come What May".

I totally agree that Wael and Yuki now occupies the best PG here in Asia alongside Guo Ailun

and currently we don't had a match-up on them

Scotty 2 Hotty(he is really a 2 guy) and the Blitz are not yet on that level

same with the Baby Beast, he is more of the "2" guy

PH Passport holder(?) Remy Martin is explosive and cerebral but still ineligible

even in the ranks of the UAAP and NCAA, I haven't seen that "Cerebral" thing of a PG

it will take time for Andy Gemao and Kiefer Alas if they had the X-factor moving forward

except for Dylan Harper and Vyc Miller , other hafu kids like JJ Mandaquit, Terrence Hill, Jr.,(?), Angelino Mark(?) and Pittsburgh Panthers Jaland Lowe

are all PH docs holder had that "precious quality" in a very young age but unfortunately, they are not yet in the PHI's database as far as FIBA portal are concern
 
Recent Spin article is claiming that QMB is eligible to play as local. SBP must verify and confirm this ASAP. The powers that be should push for QMB's immediate integration to the Gilas program.
 
Common now, I hope this is not another Mike Philipps scenario where he was deemed as eligible but hindi pala.

If this is true, I think we already have a replacement for JMF already. Maybe Edu, because yeah, injuries.
 
lem0nadi said:
Common now, I hope this is not another Mike Philipps scenario where he was deemed as eligible but hindi pala.

If this is true, I think we already have a replacement for JMF already. Maybe Edu, because yeah, injuries.
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More likely a replacement for Aguilar. I think Fajardo has 2 more years left in him.
 
Newsome would be too good as a defender against Yuki and Arakji hasnt faced newnew. Newsome over Yuki on offense would be too easy. Yuki had issues against pesky and bigger guards while in Yoko. Newsome is a very capable import stopper. Newsome should be in the upper tier as a PG in the asian scene. He was very effective last OQT against world level competition.
 
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