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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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carmelo7 said:
No doubt he's still very young and could develop those esp the outside shot. But I was hoping he'd be alot better now since Gilas 2021.
So for the wing it'll just be Oftana, Jaime, KQ and for 2 years max Brownlee.
I wnder how much it would take for the eligibilities of Philipps, Lucero, QMB and Koon. If we could have those Im Okay getting Barefield as a Naturalized player. Unpopular take but should cost much less
Kai, QMB, Edu, Philipps, Tamayo, KQ,Jaime, Oftana, Ramos,Koon, Winston & Barefield should be good enough
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A jumper would also be nice.
 
sroth3839 said:
A jumper would also be nice.
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In fairness to Lopez, I think there's some improvement naman on his shooting. I think he now has a better 3-pt shooting compared to 3 or 4 years ago, though not consistent. I think if there's one thing Lopez should improve, it has got to be his ball handling for him to play the 3 spot. I think for now, his teammate Mark Belmonte has better handles in which mas malaki ang potential ni Belmonte to play the 3 spot compared to Lopez.
 
I think when evaluating wings, we should look at defense as well. Defense is an important part of playing the wing. Length, lateral quickness, effort, awareness.
 
What's with Dwight Ramos that despite not having eye-popping credentials in the US NCAA Div. 1 college basketball, he is considered a vital component of Gilas & I think its safe to say that Dwight is a quality wingman in Asian basketball? And he has also performed well in world level basketball with the way he performed in the 2024 Olympic Qualifying Tournament.

What I also like about Dwight is that when playing for his B-league team, hindi naman sya ganun ka explosive sa scoring, but when he plays for Gilas even against world level opponents, doon talaga sya pumopokpok.

If you look at Dwight, he isn't really that quick, his athleticism is just slightly above averaged, hes no Gabe Norwood, Kelly Williams, or a Thirdy Ravena in terms of athleticism, but I think he compensates for such shortcomings thru skills & court smarts. And he's such a decent defender. It would be exciting if he's paired with another 6-foot-4 wingman na may quickness, athleticism & can play both offense & defense. Imagine a 6-foot-4 version of Marcio Lassiter or Dondon Hontiveros. That would be gravy.
 
JAMSKIE said:
What's with Dwight Ramos that despite not having eye-popping credentials in the US NCAA Div. 1 college basketball, he is considered a vital component of Gilas & I think its safe to say that Dwight is a quality wingman in Asian basketball? And he has also performed well in world level basketball with the way he performed in the 2024 Olympic Qualifying Tournament.

What I also like about Dwight is that when playing for his B-league team, hindi naman sya ganun ka explosive sa scoring, but when he plays for Gilas even against world level opponents, doon talaga sya pumopokpok.

If you look at Dwight, he isn't really that quick, his athleticism is just slightly above averaged, hes no Gabe Norwood, Kelly Williams, or a Thirdy Ravena in terms of athleticism, but I think he compensates for such shortcomings thru skills & court smarts. And he's such a decent defender. It would be exciting if he's paired with another 6-foot-4 wingman na may quickness, athleticism & can play both offense & defense. Imagine a 6-foot-4 version of Marcio Lassiter or Dondon Hontiveros. That would be gravy.
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sometimes its just luck or the circumstances that shape a player. look at guys like maybe Stockton, its perhaps the people around him, his environment wherein hes driven to be a much better player than the gritty and unforgiving NCAA scene.
 
JAMSKIE said:
What's with Dwight Ramos that despite not having eye-popping credentials in the US NCAA Div. 1 college basketball, he is considered a vital component of Gilas & I think its safe to say that Dwight is a quality wingman in Asian basketball? And he has also performed well in world level basketball with the way he performed in the 2024 Olympic Qualifying Tournament.

What I also like about Dwight is that when playing for his B-league team, hindi naman sya ganun ka explosive sa scoring, but when he plays for Gilas even against world level opponents, doon talaga sya pumopokpok.

If you look at Dwight, he isn't really that quick, his athleticism is just slightly above averaged, hes no Gabe Norwood, Kelly Williams, or a Thirdy Ravena in terms of athleticism, but I think he compensates for such shortcomings thru skills & court smarts. And he's such a decent defender. It would be exciting if he's paired with another 6-foot-4 wingman na may quickness, athleticism & can play both offense & defense. Imagine a 6-foot-4 version of Marcio Lassiter or Dondon Hontiveros. That would be gravy.
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given perfect opportunity to showcase his skills. was deemed un athletic by some ncaa people..

but when you look at it now, he has better career than most of his collegiate teammates in D1 and D2..

he can even play here or some european teams if he wants to..
 
JAMSKIE said:
What's with Dwight Ramos that despite not having eye-popping credentials in the US NCAA Div. 1 college basketball, he is considered a vital component of Gilas & I think its safe to say that Dwight is a quality wingman in Asian basketball? And he has also performed well in world level basketball with the way he performed in the 2024 Olympic Qualifying Tournament.

What I also like about Dwight is that when playing for his B-league team, hindi naman sya ganun ka explosive sa scoring, but when he plays for Gilas even against world level opponents, doon talaga sya pumopokpok.

If you look at Dwight, he isn't really that quick, his athleticism is just slightly above averaged, hes no Gabe Norwood, Kelly Williams, or a Thirdy Ravena in terms of athleticism, but I think he compensates for such shortcomings thru skills & court smarts. And he's such a decent defender. It would be exciting if he's paired with another 6-foot-4 wingman na may quickness, athleticism & can play both offense & defense. Imagine a 6-foot-4 version of Marcio Lassiter or Dondon Hontiveros. That would be gravy.
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He was named team captain of this B-League team Levanga Hokkaido this season. I think that's a big deal,

The team will play their first home games in the Nippon Ham Fighters baseball stadium this weekend vs AJ Edu's team.
 

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Silent Killer said:
given perfect opportunity to showcase his skills. was deemed un athletic by some ncaa people..

but when you look at it now, he has better career than most of his collegiate teammates in D1 and D2..

he can even play here or some european teams if he wants to..
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Perhaps by US basketball standards, Dwight would look unathletic becoz everybody there is athletic. Guys like Norwood, Kelly Williams, Danny Seigle are just your averaged athletic cagers by US basketball standards.

Speaking of Gabe Norwood, compared to Dwight, the former doesn't only have better hops than the latter, he is also quicker & more agile than Dwight. But of course Dwight is a better offensive player than Gabe. Gabe though is the better defender, perhaps becoz of his edge over Dwight in athleticism.

Dwight appointed as the team captain of his B-league team would speak something about his leadership & raport with his teammates & coaches.
 
paolylo said:
Just as long as the SBP realized this before you, we're good... but they should have known this as early as 7 months ago that La Salle has a game at San Juan the day before Gilas plays New Zealand at MoA and another game at San Juan maybe five and a half hours tops before the HK game.

For that matter, the Commisioners Cup starts just 3 days after the HK game. Gilas will win without KQ against HK, but maybe they do need someone else to play the two and backup Brownlee at the three against New Zealand if Ramos won't be ready. I'm assuming there wouldn't be a problem with the other B.League Gilas players.

Like I said in other threads/posts, Gilas is lucky that its really just New Zealand they have to deal with as far as potential scheduling clusterfucks for now. But once the FIBA Asia Cup is done and World Cup Qualifiers kick in, it'll be different layers of scheduling problems to deal with.
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I have a feeling Dwight Ramos' injury is just a minor one & come the 2nd window in November, he would be ok.
I think there won't be a problem with Gilas B-league players as the B-league would take a 2-week break to give way to the 2nd window Asia Cup qualifiers.

It's the Gilas PBA boys that are really a concern, especially those whose teams will play in the finals of the Governor's Cup.

Ginebra fans will curse me but I feel it would be better for Gilas that it wud be a SMB-TnT championship series so that Justin Brownlee would be available for Gilas training around 10 days before that much awaited game vs. New Zealand. We all know how much important Brownlee is to Gilas. Of course Ginebra not making it to the finals would also mean Gilas head coach Tim Cone being available for Gilas training as early as possible.

That game vs. New Zealand is crucial. I think everybody here at IBN is lokking forward for a Gilas win over tormentor Tall Blacks. ​
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpWSNgBP4KE&pp=ygUYR2lsYXMgbWFncGEgcHJhY3R pY2UgbmEg

No coach Tim, its your PBA that will cause the delay of Gilas training for the 2nd window. If you check the B-league schedule, you'll see that it will take a brief break about 10 days prior to the start of the 2nd window qualifier of the Asia Cup. By Nov. 12, available na po for Gilas training sina Kai Sotto, Dwight Ramos & AJ Edu.

Si Carl Tamayo lang among the Gilas player playing overseas that will be late in joining Gilas dahil may game pa yung KBL team nya on Nov. 14.

I'm just praying that the PBA Commisioner's Cup finals won't reach to a game 7 so that PBA Gilas players would be available earlier than expected. Since Ginebra has a very good chance of making it to the finals, if the finals would go to a winner-take-all game 7 then Gibebra's Justin Brownlee, Iskati Thompson & coach Tim himself would only be available for Gilas training by Nov. 16. That's 5 days prior to our game versus tormentor New Zealand.

Kung bakit pa kasi ginawang best of 7 series ang semis? The semis should have been a best of 5 series na lang.
 
I think Cone wont give Chot any chances, though RHJ will def be an x factor for TNT since he has expanded his game now to be some sort of a super role player
 
If TC decides to add at least one undersized guard to Gilas, who should be given a chance among Alvano, SJ & RJ?
 
bluenote49 said:
If TC decides to add at least one undersized guard to Gilas, who should be given a chance among Alvano, SJ & RJ?
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it should be Alvano but knowing Tim he will probably pick RJ for knowledge of his syste..... probably, i think Tim still has his apprehensions on RJ as he doesn't trust him on Crucial minutes on the 4th (subbing him out)
 
bluenote49 said:
If TC decides to add at least one undersized guard to Gilas, who should be given a chance among Alvano, SJ & RJ?
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I'll go for SJ Belangel becoz he has better defense than RJ Abarrientos. RJ's edge though is his familiarity with coach Tim's system. As what SK said, Alvano is not FIBA eligible so he shouldn't be part of the discussion.
 
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