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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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mathematicianrcg said:
Dave needs to practice playmaking if he wants to be PG. But I think his skill set is more of a SG than a PG.

Btw, Raven Cortez and Kevin Quiambao should be invited again next gilas call up. Last time, they were excused because of academic reasons.

I think the second one where quiambao was invited, he said in IG that he cant because he is in an out of country vacation trip.lol

Sayang, Raven and Quiambao can be twins of Tamayo and Balti in terms of playstyle.
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Yeah, Quiambao was already being prepped to play the perimeter in NSNU. Cortez looks like he has the potential too. I hope he's recovered from his knee issues. I hope they both accept, kasi sayang ang upside kung nakatengga lang. It would be good for them, good for Gilas, and good for La Salle kasi they'll be better players for it. But JAMSKIE says that it will be unlikely.

But, Tab still does have Kyle Ong in Ateneo, who plays similar to Demisana and Salvoro, and is 6'8" like them.

As for Dave, yeah, he'll need to improve his playmaking and shot creation, but even if he is an SG, he can still be a secondary handler or playmaker, which will be invaluable to us in the long run.
 
Why is it that I have this feeling that coach Tab doesn't really like that much the idea of a Gilas stint in the PBA 2nd conference? Maybe that is if only Gilas can train overseas in the next 2 to 3 months or so. But I have a feeling SBP & Gilas doesn't have much options as of this moment. With that, coach Tab & SBP have to take the PBA option so as to keep the Gilas boys sharp & in very good playing condition. PBA style of play may not simulate the FIBA game, but playing in the PBA is still better than not playing competitive basketball anywhere in the next few months prior to the 2023 FIBA World Cup qualifying window on February.

And of course as a Gilas supporter, I want to see some Gilas basketball while FIBA basketball is not yet on its season.
 
IPC said:
I forgot to mention Dave Ildefonso, he's easily one of the higher-upside players I see in this Gilas group. The fact that he's learning to play point (as shown in the King's Cup); if he perfects it, he'll be tough to stop. Just needs to polish his scoring.

Man, I hope more high-upside players take the Gilas invitation.
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Even if Dave would not be able to convert himself into a natural point guard, a 2-guard (a good size at that at 6-foot-4) with some point guard qualities - passing, high court awareness, good decision making, ball handling, would be very valuable for Gilas.
 
JAMSKIE said:
Why is it that I have this feeling that coach Tab doesn't really like that much the idea of a Gilas stint in the PBA 2nd conference? Maybe that is if only Gilas can train overseas in the next 2 to 3 months or so. But I have a feeling SBP & Gilas doesn't have much options as of this moment. With that, coach Tab & SBP have to take the PBA option so as to keep the Gilas boys sharp & in very good playing condition. PBA style of play may not simulate the FIBA game, but playing in the PBA is still better than not playing competitive basketball anywhere in the next few months prior to the 2023 FIBA World Cup qualifying window on February.

And of course as a Gilas supporter, I want to see some Gilas basketball while FIBA basketball is not yet on its season.
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I really have no idea, but maybe he values overseeing training camp and I want that too, but it seems like they don't have any options at the moment. Like you, I am also dying to see some Gilas action. I think with the B-league situation and the Heading situation, the SBP plans got side-stepped. I think once they handle the heading issue, we will see some updates on what they will decide.

It would be preferable if they played a few PBA games and then flew to Europe or wherever Tab desired for training camp. Maybe the new Gilas guys (Nonoy, Cortez, Etc) if ever can play in the PBA, handled by Coach Jong? Then Tab, with Balty, Tamayo, and others, could go to the overseas training? Or both? I hope we get some updates soon.
 
thatweirdguy said:
I'm not kidding when I say there are tons of people now who knows who Thirdy, Dwight, Kai, Kobe, Kiefer, etc is but don't know who Junemar is. Crazy how even my younger cousins and nieces are liking and commenting on posts regarding GILAS and our Bleague imports who are not even casual basketball fans. To think these names used to be only familiar to a members of this forum and other sites.. a lot has changed in the last 2 years
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Thirdy, Dwight, & Kobe's stints with Gilas & of course their current stint in the B-league have made them some sort of household names in the Philippines. This to think that some 2 to 3 yrs. ago, these players specially Dwight Ramos, aren't really that popular in the Phi basketball community. Some 2 years ago, Dwight Ramos was relatively unknown to averaged Pinoy basketball fans. But right now, sikat na sya.

I have some friends who could be considered averaged basketball fans & upon seeing Dwight playing for Gilas, they asked me kung saan galing si Dwight.
 
JAMSKIE said:
If only we're living in a perfect world. Philippine basketball doesn't even come close to a perfect world, in fact its too very very far from a perfect world.

I would love to see Quiambao, Lantaya, Lepalam, Abando, Ambohot, Evan Nelle, Raven Cortez, in the Gilas training pool. We know this won't happen any time soon. Maybe we'll wait 2 to 3 more yrs.

There are really a lot of evils/devils in Phi basketball. Yung pinaka demonyo dyan eh yung long hair who is very much involved both in pro & college basketball.
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Wish kinda granted: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/gilas-begin-batch-workouts-add-csbs-lepalam-to-pool/224897

Two groups, which are frontline and backcourt.

Frontline: Go, Navarro, Rangel, Kouame, Tamayo, Chiu, Baltazar
Backourt: Nieto twins, Suerte, Bulanadi, Tungcab, Belangel, Ildefonso

Hope more batches come, and we see more kids come into Gilas camp.
 
JAMSKIE said:
^ ^ ^ ^

Hope to see Anonuevo, Quiambao & Lantaya in Gilas training as well.
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Anonuevo, pwede pa. Quiambao, I'm a little hopeful that he goes Gilas, because of Baltazar as a precedent. Thing is, Baltazar has a different handler, which is why he could attend training.

Lantaya, well, ayun. He's in Letran with Chua. However, I did remember reading that Rhenz Abando once said that he would be picked had he gone to Ateneo or Beda.
 
IPC said:
Anonuevo, pwede pa. Quiambao, I'm a little hopeful that he goes Gilas, because of Baltazar as a precedent. Thing is, Baltazar has a different handler, which is why he could attend training.

Lantaya, well, ayun. He's in Letran with Chua. However, I did remember reading that Rhenz Abando once said that he would be picked had he gone to Ateneo or Beda.
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Everything that would be associated with Long Hair is detrimental for Philippine basketball.
 
IPC said:
Anonuevo, pwede pa. Quiambao, I'm a little hopeful that he goes Gilas, because of Baltazar as a precedent. Thing is, Baltazar has a different handler, which is why he could attend training.

Lantaya, well, ayun. He's in Letran with Chua. However, I did remember reading that Rhenz Abando once said that he would be picked had he gone to Ateneo or Beda.
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He would have been included if he picked any other school besides Letran. He tried to make it sound like players from San Beda and Ateneo were chosen based on their school and not their abilities/potential.

He knew the deal. He knows what Longhair is doing yet he still chose Letran and say things like that? Sounds like he's passing the buck. I dunno what to make of this kid. And this is after leaving UST.
 
thatweirdguy said:
He would have been included if he picked any other school besides Letran. He tried to make it sound like players from San Beda and Ateneo were chosen based on their school and not their abilities/potential.

He knew the deal. He knows what Longhair is doing yet he still chose Letran and say things like that? Sounds like he's passing the buck. I dunno what to make of this kid. And this is after leaving UST.
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And there's already an impression among fans in comments that a requirement that you have to be from Ateneo in order to get into Gilas.
 
thatweirdguy said:
He would have been included if he picked any other school besides Letran. He tried to make it sound like players from San Beda and Ateneo were chosen based on their school and not their abilities/potential.

He knew the deal. He knows what Longhair is doing yet he still chose Letran and say things like that? Sounds like he's passing the buck. I dunno what to make of this kid. And this is after leaving UST.
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Yeah. Most likely Long Hair is telling Letran players that coach Tab, the entire Gilas coaching staff & SBP are playing favorites that they recruit for Gilas mostly players from Ateneo & UP while ignoring players with good potential from other schools. That is when in truth & in fact, ayaw lang talagang payagan ni Long Hair ang Letran players to train/play for Gilas & some schools like La Salle are also prohibiting their players from joining the Gilas program.

Walang hiya, dini demonized pa nila ang Gilas program.
 
IPC said:
And there's already an impression among fans in comments that a requirement that you have to be from Ateneo in order to get into Gilas.
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And you cant be in Gilas if u are under long hair
 
JAMSKIE said:
Yeah. Most likely Long Hair is telling Letran players that coach Tab, the entire Gilas coaching staff & SBP are playing favorites that they recruit for Gilas mostly players from Ateneo & UP while ignoring players with good potential from other schools. That is when in truth & in fact, ayaw lang talagang payagan ni Long Hair ang Letran players to train/play for Gilas & some schools like La Salle are also prohibiting their players from joining the Gilas program.

Walang hiya, dini demonized pa nila ang Gilas program.
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Di ba? EFF longhair. All the players from Ateneo and San Beda that were part of the program deserved to get in. Who would he honestly replaced besides Mike?(no offense to Mike's fans) and even that is iffy (I heard Mike is a gym rat good luck trying to beat him in practice). Oftana? Javi? Dwight? Kobe? Suerte? Even Dave got buried in the bench.

If there's anyone to blame it's himself for choosing to side with long hair despite knowing he'll likely never play for GILAS if he chose Letran.
 
thatweirdguy said:
Di ba? EFF longhair. All the players from Ateneo and San Beda that were part of the program deserved to get in. Who would he honestly replaced besides Mike?(no offense to Mike's fans) and even that is iffy (I heard Mike is a gym rat good luck trying to beat him in practice). Oftana? Javi? Dwight? Kobe? Suerte? Even Dave got buried in the bench.

If there's anyone to blame it's himself for choosing to side with long hair despite knowing he'll likely never play for GILAS if he chose Letran.
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The only guys he can beat out right now are Mike, Javi and Suerte (and this is because of the upside). Abando's a good shooter and a decent defender, and is athletic like Thirdy, and can finish, but that's pretty much it. He can't exactly create for himself, which Oftana, Dwight, Suerte, and Dave can. Even Javi is a better shot creator.

Pero kasi, that athleticism, length, and shooting is already upside. I see that he has more upside than Mike, Javi, and Suerte. And he's kinda young, being 23. That's why it's tough to leave out a guy like Abando. And come on, you can work on things like shot creation. Jimmy Butler and Kawhi Leonard for example.
 
thatweirdguy said:
He would have been included if he picked any other school besides Letran. He tried to make it sound like players from San Beda and Ateneo were chosen based on their school and not their abilities/potential.

He knew the deal. He knows what Longhair is doing yet he still chose Letran and say things like that? Sounds like he's passing the buck. I dunno what to make of this kid. And this is after leaving UST.
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JAMSKIE said:
Yeah. Most likely Long Hair is telling Letran players that coach Tab, the entire Gilas coaching staff & SBP are playing favorites that they recruit for Gilas mostly players from Ateneo & UP while ignoring players with good potential from other schools. That is when in truth & in fact, ayaw lang talagang payagan ni Long Hair ang Letran players to train/play for Gilas & some schools like La Salle are also prohibiting their players from joining the Gilas program.

Walang hiya, dini demonized pa nila ang Gilas program.
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Eto, a. This current pool pa lang, only 9 out of 16 are from Ateneo. UP has only Tamayo and Tungcab. Then we have Suerte (UE), Bulanadi (SSC), Rangel (NU), Baltazar (DLSU), and Lepalam (CSB).

That said, I'd still like for more quality players from whatever school to join the Gilas pool. I hope Tab's scouts keep noticing quality players, Ateneo or otherwise.
 
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