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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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I must have missed something, but are there no more takers from KBL/B. League on Carl? Or are teams from those leagues no longer allowed to sign new players at this juncture of their respective seasons?

From his interview with he Shoot First crew he said that there are offers for him to sign to b league playoff contending teams but opt not to since he needs to get familiarize to the system. Tamayo is in a win-win situation right now as he got his full contract amount from Ryukyu. He said that he wants to be at his most conditioned form ever so Bluenote's suggestion of training in the US is a good choice. Money is also not a problem since he still has the bleague contract money. In a few months there will be lots of players training for the NBA draft and who knows if gets better, an NBA summer league invite might be possible.
 
I'm no fan of the Argentinian football team (I like Messi though) but wish we had an anthem like theirs during Gilas games.

Their song "muchachos" is so catchy at gaganahan ka talagang suportahan team mo.

Any song writers here? How would you write a Gilas anthem that fans could sing in-game?
 
I must have missed something, but are there no more takers from KBL/B. League on Carl? Or are teams from those leagues no longer allowed to sign new players at this juncture of their respective seasons?

Season has to end first,before signing FAs
 
From his interview with he Shoot First crew he said that there are offers for him to sign to b league playoff contending teams but opt not to since he needs to get familiarize to the system. Tamayo is in a win-win situation right now as he got his full contract amount from Ryukyu. He said that he wants to be at his most conditioned form ever so Bluenote's suggestion of training in the US is a good choice. Money is also not a problem since he still has the bleague contract money. In a few months there will be lots of players training for the NBA draft and who knows if gets better, an NBA summer league invite might be possible.

Just attending the camps is a win win already,he will pick up good training habits,if sign for a Summer League that's just a bonus.
 
Demisana and Gagate,what's the real height of this guys?Kobe was measured at 6'8 at 14 years old and alot of speculatin he will be at least 6'10,I can't believed that he didn't grow at all,they still listed him at 6'8,but in some interview during his Batang Gilas stint he said he's already 6'9,Gagate's height sometimes range from 6'9-6'11,what's the real deal?
 
Demisana and Gagate,what's the real height of this guys?Kobe was measured at 6'8 at 14 years old and alot of speculatin he will be at least 6'10,I can't believed that he didn't grow at all,they still listed him at 6'8,but in some interview during his Batang Gilas stint he said he's already 6'9,Gagate's height sometimes range from 6'9-6'11,what's the real deal?

Here's what I'm pretty sure of - there's no way Gagate's height is 6-foot-10 or 6-foot-11. At best, Galgate is only 6-foot-8 in my opinion.
 
You want to build a solid platform for our nt, you cant afford cheapening the supplies. Kapag dinaya ang kalidad at timpla ng semento at kabilya, hindi tatagal ang plataporma.. The nt needs 5 reliables for every position. Basketball injuries and schedules can be brutal on player availability. That is, you need a 25-man nt pool with players tough and talented enough for top asian wars. You can carry mostly 2 of the 5 best per position for top fiba tourhaments.

So, gagate, demisana or konov are not there yet. There is no way that these guys wont even look very bad yet against aussie and arab bigs. Year-round pre-season tournaments, pro-am friendlies against pba teams, and at least the physical conditioning regimen for la salle, ateneo and up senior ballers should be the minimum development activities. San miguel owns several basketball training arenas that are available year-round. Young and veteran players should regularly and frequently play there against each other. Demisana and gagate must look good at least against carino, laput or slaughter. If these youths can outrun in a 100m dash, outscore in mid and long distance shooting, and outvert jump, those veteran pba guards, they should be good for at least 5 years in nt roles.
 
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Ang sagot dyan ay…

PBA.

PBA draft might schedule after OQT, and new season might schedule after Olympics… So Tamayo needs to play elsewhere before June Gilas session… Even Brownlee had to play overseas just to be in shape in June… If no overseas offers, then playing MPBL is better than being Jobless, just to be in shape… 4 months of not playing competitive basketball will stop his progress…
 
Losing is not an option in the oqt. Cone needs a team much stronger than the one which drove through the taiwanese. Healthy fajardo and edu are vital, but the team itself still lacks above-asian players. The opposing teams have lots of physical and talented bigs.

Aside from brownlee, cone will need clarkson or green (or both). A heart-ripper like abando is a must, as is kouame due to the fragility of both fajardo and edu. I believe tfat only a valid philippine passport is required for the oqt. If kouame cannot come, the last, one for the road, battles of aguilar would be intriguing.
 
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This I honestly believe: That in Asia-Oceania level Kai Sotto can really play like an old school center (post up plays/back-to-the-basket moves). That's because there are only few real tall (6-foot-10 & above) & highly physical centers out there in Asia-Oceania basketball. Kai can easily tower over & over power most bigs in Asia. I agree with what Yeshkel said in his latest video.
 
Some attempts at analysis are really too careless, and rather than establishing good points, such only establish the inability to carefully set the baselines, logframe and limits of such analysis.

I actually silenced some of my foreigner profs in economics before. They were too eager to show what their econometric models and pet theories can explain, without carefully mentioning what important things such cannot explain, or how the error terms and uncertainties have to be handled. (Of course, they never knew im good at advanced maths.) Ganyan din sa basketbol at kailangan din ng ingat.

Tim cone correctly identified for use at least 10 above-average two-way players. Basketball championships are always about creating opportunities for all players on the floor to shine, rather than try to shoe shine with hero balling as they repeatedly forced clarkson to desperately do.

Because gilas has no severe height and power disadvantages, only the talent and perseverance of pinoy players matter. With all cone's players excelling in opportunistic balling -- 70% of what it takes to consistently win -- trying to overload defenses and offenses on kai wont work. The present boston celtics are the best situational opportunists ive seen in a while. They seem to be winning more than they lose.

Kai already is very good at hanging around the basket for opportunistic shots, discouraging opponent shots, blocks and rebounds. They cant box him out because our forwards and guards do not lack slashing size, physicality and quickness in the paint. More so if other teams cannot intimidate our genuine skilled partner-bigs like fajardo, edu and aguilar, who are now familiar with high-intensity fiba wars.

in other words, what is the point of trying to contain sotto, when the opponent's players cannot even slow down the other 4 pinoy ballers on the floor??? Did you guys watch the game and see the predicament of the taipei coach? None of his guards cant stop our tough guards, and none of his forwards cant stop or go through our talented forwards. Kai was therefore never under pressure to over-perform. He can dance whatever he wants.
 
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This I honestly believe: That in Asia-Oceania level Kai Sotto can really play like an old school center (post up plays/back-to-the-basket moves). That's because there are only few real tall (6-foot-10 & above) & highly physical centers out there in Asia-Oceania basketball. Kai can easily tower over & over power most bigs in Asia. I agree with what Yeshkel said in his latest video.

Tower but not overpower. His frame is still far from ideal.

Anyway how many players are around Kai's height? Zhou Qi? I believe he might be the tallest player that's getting significant minutes.
 
If the whole contract in Ryukyu is paid is true then he should..
Paid daw and confirmed by Tamayo in Mikee's podcast. They were teasing him that it's ranging from 50-80M. Damn. Currently I am seeing him training with Better Basketball. Pack your bags Carl, go to the US and train.
 
I wonder if its like one of those cases wherein the money isnt guaranteed if he takes a new job just like how coaches salaries work.
 
Some attempts at analysis are really too careless, and rather than establishing good points, such only establish the inability to carefully set the baselines, logframe and limits of such analysis.

I actually silenced some of my foreigner profs in economics before. They were too eager to show what their econometric models and pet theories can explain, without carefully mentioning what important things such cannot explain, or how the error terms and uncertainties have to be handled. (Of course, they never knew im good at advanced maths.) Ganyan din sa basketbol at kailangan din ng ingat.

Tim cone correctly identified for use at least 10 above-average two-way players. Basketball championships are always about creating opportunities for all players on the floor to shine, rather than try to shoe shine with hero balling as they repeatedly forced clarkson to desperately do.

Because gilas has no severe height and power disadvantages, only the talent and perseverance of pinoy players matter. With all cone's players excelling in opportunistic balling -- 70% of what it takes to consistently win -- trying to overload defenses and offenses on kai wont work. The present boston celtics are the best situational opportunists ive seen in a while. They seem to be winning more than they lose.

Kai already is very good at hanging around the basket for opportunistic shots, discouraging opponent shots, blocks and rebounds. They cant box him out because our forwards and guards do not lack slashing size, physicality and quickness in the paint. More so if other teams cannot intimidate our genuine skilled partner-bigs like fajardo, edu and aguilar, who are now familiar with high-intensity fiba wars.

in other words, what is the point of trying to contain sotto, when the opponent's players cannot even slow down the other 4 pinoy ballers on the floor??? Did you guys watch the game and see the predicament of the taipei coach? None of his guards cant stop our tough guards, and none of his forwards cant stop or go through our talented forwards. Kai was therefore never under pressure to over-perform. He can dance whatever he wants.


I agree on this,until Kai face another team who have big tall forwards who can break the frontline defense and get into his face,can we really see how he can handle real pressure,the upcoming OQT will be a test,the Euros love to break defense and get to the bigs in the middle.
 
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