Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Sikatrix2]

Yes, this is definitely a plus especially for the recruit's parents. At that age, the recruit is only thinking about the nba. The parents however are more realistic, they just have to be made aware of the possibilities being opened by having a passport.

If I may add, the process of getting dual citizenship can really be tedious/bothersome for some people (even if it's really just 2 trips to the consulate). However, there are lawyers/paralegals who can be hired to do the legwork to make it convenient. It's best that they are hired for the really elite prospects. It saves so much more money (and lost time) compared to how much we would have to spend if we go the "exemption" rule later on. I'd say for any kid 6'5 and above before age 16, automatically provide this type of service.

I agree, If the SBP invests a bit on helping top prospects get the proper paperwork. For example, getting the necessary requirements here in the motherland. That would be a great help. I think Fil Am Nation also helps with passport acquisition but it would much better if it was the SBP.

 

[jofre2]

Lulubog Lilitaw Poster: 2024
PG 60Iskati 60CJ 62Newsome
OG 64Dwight 65KQ 65Oftana
SF 66JB 66Malonzo
PF 610Edu 67Carl
C 73Kai 610JMF
we know that New can play 123, Dwight and KQ1234 and Oftana JB Malonzo 234 and so on.so aside from shooting and skills, CTC really, emphasized on size. He picked and developed Feihl and Slaughter, Poch, Allado, Hawkins, and so on, turning servicable the likes of Bolado and Ramas etc.he truly a big man coach. i remember our Centennial Team composed of PG 57Johnny 511Racela, SG 60Jolas 62Caidic(reserved/13th player 62Cariaso)63Duremdes
SF 63Meneses 64Patrimonio PF 66Espino 65Limpot 69Marlou 69Seigle 70EJFeihl).there are 5 pure Centers, Aquino Seigle Feihl Espino and Limpot (F/C). and Patrimonio who is considered PF in the PBA was positioned at number 3. 6 are considered big, then.

 

[IPC2]

We have to develop kai. His stint in Japan battling import bigs will help him. Adding a big NP in Gilas wont. He has to play lots of in game playing mins for him to gain experience. He already had limited PT in the NBL, with chot, and with hiroshima and we are trying to limit his PT in Gilas? We want him to improve but we are not exposing him? Im confident he will be a reliable defensive presence in the paint in the coming years.

We have to be patient and trust the process.

SBP should get ineligibles instead.. get boogie ellis or ron harper jr. both 2/3 players.. harper jr. can play small ball 4 as well..

That would be unwise and stupid to not add another big,he can't guard his man in the PNR now and he won't be in the future.The low level shooters in HK team didn't even respect his perimeter defense and they shoot in his face with his outstretched arms and that's the maximum level of defense that you gonna get from him,he won't jump towards that ball since he knows his legs might land on the shooters feet.The Bleague bigs are either undersize or past their prime he's not gonna get better for sure.What he needs to do is go back to the minimum wage Gleague and that means taking a paycut and for context an IN N Out manager makes more than a Gleague player,but he will get better.As of now he's behind Ange and AJ both in skills and overall basketball play.The HK guards were driving easy baskets on him whenever he's out of that deep under the rim position,his motorskills prevents him from recovering quick enough,and his teamates just stand there,thinking he's a Chet or Wemby and will block it easily.

Whatever the case, we need a partner at 4 to help Kai on defense if we're gonna expose him as much as possible. Denver had Aaron Gordon to help out Jokic (who's a better defender than advertised despite clear deficiencies in speed and length). We'll need that Aaron Gordon for Kai for now, whether it's AJ or the NP, which right now is JB.

Whether it's a 3/4 or a 4/5, our new NP has to help anchor the defense in case of AJ's injury.​ But we'll worry about that after the Asia Cup, since we have a good defender in JB, and hopefully AJ stays healthy throughout this run. I'll concede to deku's point that we'll need to expose Kai first as much as possible and see if he can improve his PnR and team defense (he can't do worse than June Mar, and he'll have Brownlee and hopefully AJ to help him out). His rim protection is good, though, and his post defense got better.

 

[Metta2]

What is a 7'2 doing guarding the perimeter?

There are now 5's who can score from the perimeter.

 

[B L A C K S U N2]

Lulubog Lilitaw Poster: 2024
PG 60Iskati 60CJ 62Newsome
OG 64Dwight 65KQ 65Oftana
SF 66JB 66Malonzo
PF 610Edu 67Carl
C 73Kai 610JMF
we know that New can play 123, Dwight and KQ1234 and Oftana JB Malonzo 234 and so on.so aside from shooting and skills, CTC really, emphasized on size. He picked and developed Feihl and Slaughter, Poch, Allado, Hawkins, and so on, turning servicable the likes of Bolado and Ramas etc.he truly a big man coach. i remember our Centennial Team composed of PG 57Johnny 511Racela, SG 60Jolas 62Caidic(reserved/13th player 62Cariaso)63Duremdes
SF 63Meneses 64Patrimonio PF 66Espino 65Limpot 69Marlou 69Seigle 70EJFeihl).there are 5 pure Centers, Aquino Seigle Feihl Espino and Limpot (F/C). and Patrimonio who is considered PF in the PBA was positioned at number 3. 6 are considered big, then.

The way you format your post is extremely painful to read. It looks like a bunch of computer codes not meant to be comprehend.

 

[deku_midoriya2]

There are now 5's who can score from the perimeter.

Its a commonly used strategy to get the opposing big out in the perimeter because more often than not, guards can always blow by bigs gurading them in the perimeter. When kai was matched up against HK guards in the perimeter, I actually blame our defensive strategy. Kai should not be in the position to be outside the paint in defense

 

[CoJ2]

Lulubog Lilitaw Poster: 2024
PG 60Iskati 60CJ 62Newsome
OG 64Dwight 65KQ 65Oftana
SF 66JB 66Malonzo
PF 610Edu 67Carl
C 73Kai 610JMF
we know that New can play 123, Dwight and KQ1234 and Oftana JB Malonzo 234 and so on.so aside from shooting and skills, CTC really, emphasized on size. He picked and developed Feihl and Slaughter, Poch, Allado, Hawkins, and so on, turning servicable the likes of Bolado and Ramas etc.he truly a big man coach. i remember our Centennial Team composed of PG 57Johnny 511Racela, SG 60Jolas 62Caidic(reserved/13th player 62Cariaso)63Duremdes
SF 63Meneses 64Patrimonio PF 66Espino 65Limpot 69Marlou 69Seigle 70EJFeihl).there are 5 pure Centers, Aquino Seigle Feihl Espino and Limpot (F/C). and Patrimonio who is considered PF in the PBA was positioned at number 3. 6 are considered big, then.

for a minute i thought the numbers were 2k player ratings, height pala!

 

[Silent Killer2]

In that game against Hongkong, Calvin Oftana struggled with his 3pt shooting while it was Jamie Malonzo who was hitting 3's. I remember some fans taking notice of Malonzo's offensive struggle in the 2023 FIBA World Cup.

My take is, when it is only Asia-Oceania level, I'm confident Malonzo is very much serviceable for Gilas. Things would be diffrrent when we're talking world class level of competition. Well, a lot of our players who are good enough in Asian level competition struggle eventually pag world class competition na.

Malonzo for me is a combo forward but more of a four. Oftana on the other hand is really a natural small forward wiith better handles than Malonzo. But for me, both are vital components of Gilas. The idea is to expose them to the FIBA game & other international competitions as much as possible to get them more used to the FIBA game environment.

Malonzo is replaceable.. Abando will surely replace him..

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

Its easier to recruit now than before. Getting a PH passport gives them a chance to play in Japan/Korea unlike before. I guess should have B League opened up more to Pinoy players earlier, we could have convince the likes of Sage Tolentino etc to get the passport at 16.

sorry how old Sage this year? 19? 20? still a good chance to process a document even though the door for the possible exemption in the next cycle(2027-2032) are beginning to close.

same with James Flippin.

off-topic:

I’ve always monitoring the progress of our own mighty ducks hopefully they will be promoted to Division 2 along the way.

I think Fil-Nation are also helping in the processing of documents of some of the up and coming NHL guys who can reinforce our team moving forward

https://www.manilatimes.net/2024/02...-go-2-0-in-hockey-world-championships/1934030

 

[jofre2]

So by the premise above, i think 1. PG should be 60-64 ranges, 62Heading 64BRP(any special Sub-60 or what other referered as midgets,Bahay, RJ SJ Lastimosa will forever be excluded???)
2. Shooting guard 62Abando should proved himself more to be considered. or paired him with PG BRP or with Dwight
3. SF iwill be with 67Mason, 66Lopez n 67Konov.
4. PF/C Naturalized 2-way player is a must, 67Mike Phillips will always be considered(New Pingris),
kung si CTC pa by 2027; posible lineup will be
60Iskati 62Heading (64BRP/60CJ)
64Dwight 65KQ 66Lopez (65Oftana)
67Konov 67Mason (66Malonzo)
610 Wdu 67Mike 67Carl (610Boatwright)
73Kai 611Kouame
debateble:
CJ vs Heading and BRP
Oftana and Malonzo vs Lopez and Mason and Konov
Kouame vs Boatwright

 

[Metta2]

Its a commonly used strategy to get the opposing big out in the perimeter because more often than not, guards can always blow by bigs gurading them in the perimeter. When kai was matched up against HK guards in the perimeter, I actually blame our defensive strategy. Kai should not be in the position to be outside the paint in defense

Huh? Okay, let's pretend there is a universe where screening and setting picks do not exist...

What happens when the other team's 5 can score from outside? Is Kai supposed to block outside shots from inside the paint? That would be amazing.

 

[gilasfan2]

In fairness to Chot.....his system of different players every window opened up to a lot of players to have opportunity to play in Japan, Korea etc.
It also opened up to many players like KQ playing in Gilas etc,

Without this, CTC might still stick to the players he know which is all from the pBA

 

[r1ck2]

Its so refreshing to see our national team play like this with improved off the ball movement and crisp passing. Chinese Taipei was forced to pack the paint to defend Sotto and in turn afforded Gilas some open looks in the perimeter. What I also like about their system right now is they encourage players to shoot from mid range rather than kick out for the three or drive down heavily defended lane, heck even Japeth is shooting mid range jumpers. And from what I saw CJ Perez needs to adjust his play, he is over dribbling and forcing too many shots.

 

[ccharmed2]

The taiwan game showed the true fiba strength of the kaiju. He completely destroyed the taiwanese confidence in both offense and defense in the key. The game stats showed the taiwanese are scared of kai, and that they have a very good reason to be scared of him. And that is without his big partners in crime in the paint like fajardo and edu. Or future aggressive partner bigs like a kouame, tolentino or that atlanta hawks power forward.

The size, skills and quickness of our 2-way forwards and guards also stumped the taiwanese coach and his players. They were reduced to fouling more and gambling on outside shooting.

Well, these gilas games should silence pinoy fanbois who doth love too much nba guard play and pba midget ball, which mentally doomed coachot's usefulness. Now fanbois say that kai somehow cannot stop a 3point shooting big. So, who is this fantastic big who can shoot over kai with impunity?

 

[JAMSKIE2]

Its so refreshing to see our national team play like this with improved off the ball movement and crisp passing. Chinese Taipei was forced to pack the paint to defend Sotto and in turn afforded Gilas some open looks in the perimeter. What I also like about their system right now is they encourage players to shoot from mid range rather than kick out for the three or drive down heavily defended lane, heck even Japeth is shooting mid range jumpers. And from what I saw CJ Perez needs to adjust his play, he is over dribbling and forcing too many shots.

I said this before, that in Asian basketball level having a skilled 7-foot big guy like a Kai Sotto will always be a significant advantage, especially if we are up against a team whose centers aren't that good or are about 5 to 6 inches shorter than Kai. I think about 70% of all the teams in Asia-Oceania have centers who can't match up with Kai.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

What I want to see is for Kai to be matched up with the centers of China, Jordan, Saudi Arabia. New Zealand & Japan. I'm confident, Kai can hold his own against these centers.

 

[thatweirdguy2]

What I want to see is for Kai to be matched up with the centers of China, Jordan, Saudi Arabia. New Zealand & Japan. I'm confident, Kai can hold his own against these centers.

NZ and Japan I'd give the edge to Kai. The others I'm not really sure. Who are there available bigmen again?

 

[JAMSKIE2]

NZ and Japan I'd give the edge to Kai. The others I'm not really sure. Who are there available bigmen again?

For Saudi Arabia its 6-foot-11 Mohammed Alsuwailem, for Jordan its 7-foot Ahmad Al Dwairi (whom Ange Kouame outplayed in the championship game of last year's Asian Games).

 

[JAMSKIE2]

I'm confident Kai will hold his own (not necessarily outplay them) against Alsuwailem & Al Dwairi.

 

[Rds2]

For Saudi Arabia its 6-foot-11 Mohammed Alsuwailem, for Jordan its 7-foot Ahmad Al Dwairi (whom Ange Kouame outplayed in the championship game of last year's Asian Games).

Japan has an NP center right? NZ also has a tall center? Kai seems to have improved. But yes 6’5-6’6 centers are not a true test.