Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[JAMSKIE2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJiB5gjwIVI&pp=ygUGYmFraXRz

Is he the best player in local college basketball right now? Hope Quiambao would be on Gilas roster in the 1st window of the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup qualifiers in February next year.

I predict he will get offers from a B-league team after this UAAP season.

 

[IPC2]

I think the proposed Gilas developmental team by Al Chua that would composed of amateur/college players that would be kept intact for a No. of years & play as a guest team in the PBA would just serve as some sort of a "feeder" to the Gilas elite team/pool & not really the national team that would compete in the qualifying windows & tournament proper of FIBA Asia Cup, World Cup or even Asian Games. I think it won't be like the NCC team in the 80's or the Smart Gilas program in the late 2000's to early 2010's.

It's really very very difficult to maintain such team & keep it intact for say 4 to 5 years now that the lure of professional basketball has gotten even stronger with Japan's B-league & Korea's KBL luring some of Phi basketball's marque players. And there's even bigger money in Japan or Korea pro basketball.

Take for instance if SBP forms that team now, that team/pool would probably be composed of current collegiate players Quiambao, Lopez, Mason Amos, CJ Cansino, Ivan Nelle, Mark Belmonte, Jonel Policarpio, etc., I think it won't be for long before guys like Quiambao, Amos, Lopez get juicy offers from B-league teams. How could the sponsor of that developmental national team match such huge offers? As soon as those players start to reach their prime, we will loose them to the PBA or B-league or the KBL. Ganyan ang nangyari sa Smart Gilas program eh. That's the reality.

Hence, I think such proposed national developmental team would just serve as a "feeder" for our elite Gilas team. Majority of players that will compose our Gilas elite team would still come from the PBA, B-league & KBL.

I say come 2027 FIBA World Cup, I expect only around 2 or 3 of the current college players we have would make it to the Gilas final 12-man roster for the World Cup.

Developmental team will become a feeder for the seniors, as it should be. The important thing is, it has the same system or a similar system to the seniors so that the transition would be better.

 

[hmbopbaduwap2]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba...io-on-gilas-a795-20231105?ref=home_featured_2

Cone said Panlilio wants to get his insights on the national team program moving forward after Gilas captured the gold medal in the Asiad. But Cone was quick to point out that it is not related to the coaching job with the national team.

“I did see Mr. Panlilio tonight and he said that he will contact me and we will talk but it’s not about the position,” said Cone on Sunday during the PBA 48th Season opening ceremony. “It’s just about the general vision on how the program is going to move forward. I think he wants to get some of my ideas.”
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Cone reiterated that he has no plans of extending his stay with Gilas Pilipinas that he agreed to take over specifically for the Asian Games only.

“I’ve been saying a couple of times publicly that it’s a complex question because there’s not a simple answer to that because there are so many things that go on in terms of how the vision is going to be done.”


​“It was a simple answer for me to do the Asian Games because I’m going to do it from here to here. And it’s very finite. And we had a full vision. We know what we wanted to do and how we want to do it,” said Cone.

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[IPC2]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba...io-on-gilas-a795-20231105?ref=home_featured_2

Cone said Panlilio wants to get his insights on the national team program moving forward after Gilas captured the gold medal in the Asiad. But Cone was quick to point out that it is not related to the coaching job with the national team.

“I did see Mr. Panlilio tonight and he said that he will contact me and we will talk but it’s not about the position,” said Cone on Sunday during the PBA 48th Season opening ceremony. “It’s just about the general vision on how the program is going to move forward. I think he wants to get some of my ideas.”
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Cone reiterated that he has no plans of extending his stay with Gilas Pilipinas that he agreed to take over specifically for the Asian Games only.

“I’ve been saying a couple of times publicly that it’s a complex question because there’s not a simple answer to that because there are so many things that go on in terms of how the vision is going to be done.”


​“It was a simple answer for me to do the Asian Games because I’m going to do it from here to here. And it’s very finite. And we had a full vision. We know what we wanted to do and how we want to do it,” said Cone.

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After Tab's ouster in 2022, there has been no direction for the team. 2017-2019 had no direction, no replacements for Ping and RDO, and especially Castro.

The SBP better set a good long-term direction. Can't keep relying on aging legs forever. Past Asiad team, and even the WC team, had good defense. Stick to that.

 

[sroth38392]

After Tab's ouster in 2022, there has been no direction for the team. 2017-2019 had no direction, no replacements for Ping and RDO, and especially Castro.

The SBP better set a good long-term direction. Can't keep relying on aging legs forever. Past Asiad team, and even the WC team, had good defense. Stick to that.

Why do we even bother?

I just tune in if there's an official FIBA match and hope the team triumphs. Other than that, it's pointless following any team development because it will resort to disappointments.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba...io-on-gilas-a795-20231105?ref=home_featured_2

Cone said Panlilio wants to get his insights on the national team program moving forward after Gilas captured the gold medal in the Asiad. But Cone was quick to point out that it is not related to the coaching job with the national team.

“I did see Mr. Panlilio tonight and he said that he will contact me and we will talk but it’s not about the position,” said Cone on Sunday during the PBA 48th Season opening ceremony. “It’s just about the general vision on how the program is going to move forward. I think he wants to get some of my ideas.”
​
Cone reiterated that he has no plans of extending his stay with Gilas Pilipinas that he agreed to take over specifically for the Asian Games only.

“I’ve been saying a couple of times publicly that it’s a complex question because there’s not a simple answer to that because there are so many things that go on in terms of how the vision is going to be done.”


​“It was a simple answer for me to do the Asian Games because I’m going to do it from here to here. And it’s very finite. And we had a full vision. We know what we wanted to do and how we want to do it,” said Cone.

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I hope coach Tim Cone would be candid enough to tell Al Panlilio right to his face that if wants Gilas to succeed in the upcoming FIBA & International tournaments, it would need a foreign coach who will coach the team on a full time basis.

 

[IPC2]

I hope coach Tim Cone would be candid enough to tell Al Panlilio right to his face that if wants Gilas to succeed in the upcoming FIBA & International tournaments, it would need a foreign coach who will coach the team on a full time basis.

A decent local coach would be good too. However, as good as coaches like Goldwin Monteverde, Aldin Ayo, and Jeff Napa are, they haven't been mentored enough in the international setting. Maybe Topex Robinson, who served under Tab, and Charles Tiu, who served under Rajko Toroman, would do? Both coaches are leading their teams to a potential Final Four finishes as well.

 

[reamily2]

the nt sf is being given away to Kevin quiambao the way he is playing and his fit next to calvin oftana as they both dont need 30 min pt to be effective..

 

[Rds2]

the nt sf is being given away to Kevin quiambao the way he is playing and his fit next to calvin oftana as they both dont need 30 min pt to be effective..

I'm not sure about Kevin. He might have improved his perimeter skills but I'm not sure if his perimeter defense is good enough. I agree though that he should be considered in the pool, being arguably the best college player now.

 

[magic_chiongson2]

I'm not sure about Kevin. He might have improved his perimeter skills but I'm not sure if his perimeter defense is good enough. I agree though that he should be considered in the pool, being arguably the best college player now.

this will really dictate if kquiam gets a foreign league offer or not, if he is able to play good-enough perimeter defense then he can play as a wing overseas. otherwise he's just another pinoy undersized big despite his talents. i've seen the media portray him as 6'8" when he's actually just barely 6'4".

 

[ARMIR2]

this will really dictate if kquiam gets a foreign league offer or not, if he is able to play good-enough perimeter defense then he can play as a wing overseas. otherwise he's just another pinoy undersized big despite his talents. i've seen the media portray him as 6'8" when he's actually just barely 6'4".

He stopped growing during his Batang Gilas days,he's like the average Pinoy who stopped growing between 15-16,there were videos and pictures of him with Carl Tamayo who was billed back then at 6'6,Carl grew another 2 inches,while KQ got stucked at 6'5 at best.

 

[live_evil2]

It is pathetic how KQ markets himself as 6'8." Even with shoes he is not 6'8." But kudos to him for his much improved play. He should improve his dribbling and shooting. He can't play 4 and 5 in FIBA. Asean maybe but not at the Worlds.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

For now its nice to see Quiambao achieving remarkable improvement in his game. I think there is really a conscious effort by Quiambao to improve his outside shooting & ball handling & it really translates in his games so far in the current UAAP season. Even coach Tab Baldwin took noticed of Quiambao's work ethic.

I hope this would be Quiambao's last season in the UAAP & he will decide to turn pro next year. I think he's ripe for the pros. Quiambao needs to go to another level to really enhance his development.

 

[Rodbi2]

For now its nice to see Quiambao achieving remarkable improvement in his game. I think there is really a conscious effort by Quiambao to improve his outside shooting & ball handling & it really translates in his games so far in the current UAAP season. Even coach Tab Baldwin took noticed of Quiambao's work ethic.

I hope this would be Quiambao's last season in the UAAP & he will decide to turn pro next year. I think he's ripe for the pros. Quiambao needs to go to another level to really enhance his development.

Ripe indeed. Hell, i think he can be a difference maker now if he's playing for a PBA team. Another thing I noticed is the way he plays above the rim nowadays. Has he always been that athletic? He's been constantly doing in-game 2-handed jams. He's looking like a bigger Vergel Meneses or Benjie Paras during his youth. I didn't see this version of him during last year's UAAP/FIBA Asia Cup.

 

[reamily2]

Ripe indeed. Hell, i think he can be a difference maker now if he's playing for a PBA team. Another thing I noticed is the way he plays above the rim nowadays. Has he always been that athletic? He's been constantly doing in-game 2-handed jams. He's looking like a bigger Vergel Meneses or Benjie Paras during his youth. I didn't see this version of him during last year's UAAP/FIBA Asia Cup.

he was a unorthodox big (kontra tiyempo type in his 2022 fiba asia cup days) nowadays remrkable improvement in his explosiveness and his "wing game' has improved a lot..

 

[Rodbi2]

he was a unorthodox big (kontra tiyempo type in his 2022 fiba asia cup days) nowadays remrkable improvement in his explosivenedd and his "wing game' has improved a lot..

Yes sir, the wing skillset is already there, especially in offense and it's so much fun to watch. He just got to get faster just like how our 6'0"-6'2" current homegrown guards are and i think that if he can improve more on his hops, maybe he also can with his overall agility in that 6'5" frame of his.

 

[ARMIR2]

It is pathetic how KQ markets himself as 6'8." Even with shoes he is not 6'8." But kudos to him for his much improved play. He should improve his dribbling and shooting. He can't play 4 and 5 in FIBA. Asean maybe but not at the Worlds.

Its not him per se,its the vloggers and sports analysts,they have a tendency to trying to predict height of U16 boys,KQ falls under the still the normal growth stoppage of a normal Filipino,15-16 years old.You have vloggers and analysts insisting Kai is still growing and won't stop growing until he's 21,even tho the Japanese Bleague last season in their sports checkup that Kai is 7'216,not 7'3,or even 7'4,heck they projected him all the way to 7'5 like he got some uncontrolled giantism,he stopped growing at 17.Even Mason Amos they thought he's gonna be 68-6'9,he just grew an inch at 6'7 and that's that.KQ can be a force to be reckoned with at the Asean level,but Asian and above a backup SF is not bad really.

 

[DAdmiral2]

The Gilas roster that played in Auckland New Zealand last year (2022) is actually not bad

PG Kiefer , Abarientos
SG Abando, Idelfonso
SF Dwight, Lopez
PF Tamayo , Quimbao

Etc , these are actually many of our core future players

 

[JAMSKIE2]

Ripe indeed. Hell, i think he can be a difference maker now if he's playing for a PBA team. Another thing I noticed is the way he plays above the rim nowadays. Has he always been that athletic? He's been constantly doing in-game 2-handed jams. He's looking like a bigger Vergel Meneses or Benjie Paras during his youth. I didn't see this version of him during last year's UAAP/FIBA Asia Cup.

Yeah, his leaping ability has really improved as well. His athleticism may not be on the same level as that of a Francis Lopez or a Kobe Paras but I think Quiambao's athleticism right now is good enough na.

Also, I think Quiambao's wingspan is also impressive. Even if it will turn out that he's only 6-foot-5 or perhaps only 6-foot-4 & a half, if his wingspan is that of a 6-foot-8 player then that's good already.

 

[Metta2]

Quiambao has excellent work ethic. The time he spent working on his body in the offseason is now paying off. It was a conscious effort to transform from a big into more of a wing player. It's funny how a lot of people here was just calling him an undersized big.

Another advantage he has aside from the wingspan is his big hands. That's why he has that one-handed shot like James Yap. Huge hands (like Jordan, Kawhi, Giannis, Yap) are a big advantage in basketball.