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FITL2
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Nakasulat ba sa rule book ng pba yan? The pba allows highly physical plays? You're so out of touch.
Welp I think all the other posters proved their point. You just have to look at recent history and Gilas-1's participation way back when, all the teams were out to get them, most esp Yeng and Arboleda. You're out of touch, just because you dislike coach Tab and discredit the recent performance of gilas, which you are free to do so, you don't need to blind yourself to reality just for your beloved league.
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sroth38392
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Yeah bro. I think that's the consesus here in IBN that whenever a local coach handles our National team, nahihirapan ang mga players natin mag adjust sa tawagan ng fouls in the FIBA game. Our team just raked up too many fouls that is why we usually gave up too many freethrows. In a close game, the disparity in freethrows between our team & the opposing team would make a big difference.
As most people would tell us, the physicality in the PBA is different from that of the FIBA game. At iba talaga tawagan ng fouls sa FIBA kisa sa PBA.
More like PBA coaches. When coach Ares handled the U19 team, we didn’t get into foul trouble quickly either.
It’s really no-brainer that PBA tactics don’t work in FIBA.
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PaVi2
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only if they compete as a regular team with a chance to play for d title.
d title does not matter, but it would make d pba teams take d game seriously. kasi kung exhibition lang e pwede nayang close-door sa gym.
fiba rule or not, it will contribute to their development, especially for d 9 gilas pros (and even d college players in case college games are still prohibited early next year).
d pba stint can provide opportunity for mastery of d system, building cohesion and chemistry, and competing in games with high stakes for d opponents. it will also allow gilas players to practice their defense against teams dependent on star players.
For me, Gilas need not compete for championship. It is good enough that it can play all ten teams one time, and the win-loss record will count into the total games played by all teams. Therefore, PBA teams will be forced to seriously play against GILAS. However, considering that we wanted this to be a development of sorts for GILAS, the import conference should have no height limit; the rules should be FIBA rules, and the calls should be strict to avoid the pba players injuring the gilas boys.
Alam nyo naman, kapag pera pera na, filipino players really play physical, bordering on injuring someone.
In this wise, each game of Gilas will be important. Also, to at least mimic tournament games, gilas will play the 10 teams for 20 days, and Gilas will be allowed to have a 20-man team in its roster, so that everyone will be given an opportunity to show their wares in Gilas uniform.
I think, IMO, this is a win-win situation to all parties concerned.
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Tuck2
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a lot sports rule books rules are subjective and a certain leeway is given just look at the comments imports have had.Nakasulat ba sa rule book ng pba yan? The pba allows highly physical plays? You're so out of touch.
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IPC2
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Well I would have Kai, Dwight and Kouame in my topn5 picks, especially in context of how many years you can have them playing, there is a reason , why most of the NBA draft picks are 19 years old, and 4 years college players are drafted low.
Additionally if we limited it to eligible players, absolutely Dwight and maybe even Baltazar and Tamayo would be high on my list of picks.
Talent involves size with a skill set, e.g. 6'8 with SF perimeter skill set , or 6'5 with guard skill, that is talent
I hope we can get more of these kinds of guys in the future. It will help so much if we get 6'6"-6'8" kids to be able to play in the perimeter, whether as a 3 or as a 4.
As for the 6'5" guy, even if he plays the 3-spot, that will be a significant upgrade over the 6'1"-6'3" SFs that we have here. As one poster mentioned, the SF position is basically nonexistent in Philippine basketball.
If we can train 6'5"-6'8" players to play the perimeter, that will be a big boost to the forward position. One problem is giving them the environment to play such position, as in, the center spot is reserved for a 6'9"+ player. Baltazar and Tamayo could play the 3 due to the presence of Kouame, Go, Chiu, and later Kai. Another is, utilizing that environment. May big foreign center ka na, backup pa rin ang 6'6"-6'8" big mo. So much for 'height is might.' We can only apply it to the 5, not the 4.
This!!!
Without Kai, Kouame, and Geo Presence, Balatazar and Tamayo will bw forced to man the pain at Center.
Unless Magsmall Ball/Minion Ball. Which I am not really much of a fan of.
NCAA did it backwards when they banned imports.
Uaap atleast have imports and some Big Filams. The reason Quiambao can/will play the 3 with DLSU is because they are loaded with Bigs Bigger than Quiambao
Personnel Matters also.
I can underatand if your local player is as tall (maybe 6'10 above, but not generational like Kai) as your Import.
But if your tallest local player is 6-5-6'8 with Mobility, he should play WITH the Big import.
Hopefully Gilas keeps finding and recruiting more 6'6"-6'8" players to the pool so that they can be trained to play the 4, or if you have the mobility of Tamayo and Baltazar, even a 3. Nandiyan naman sina Kouame, and also Chiu, so the 5 spot is taken.
And a 4 can still post up. Sabonis, Randle, Thad Young, and recently Giannis, are PFs who go to the post.
Quiambao and Cortez could have been useful sana for this experiment, kaso, availability is a concern kapag Lasalista.
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DAdmiral2
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While NZ Karate athlete is full pinoy, at some point while their roots are something to be proud of, we no longer have competition on the basis of ethnicity but purely citizenship.
https://www.spin.ph/multisport/olym...ng-gold-for-us-in-tokyo-a994-20210726-fbfirst
https://www.spin.ph/multisport/olym...ng-gold-for-us-in-tokyo-a994-20210726-fbfirst
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IPC2
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A breakdown of Thirdy & Dave Ildefonso's game vs. Saudi Arabia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AFJz0jo4AQ
The youtuber pointed out Dave Ildefonso's impressive passing game. I think Dave's passing & decision making is improving. I also think that he is also slowly departing from the heavy-ball mentality or instinct that he has developed in high school basketball & college ball at NU (prior to his transfer in Ateneo). Good to see his improvements.
Oh , that's really promising,, so from the U19 world team, Kai, Tamayo and Dave, have shown they can be 2023 propsects, si Dalph and AJ na lang... And we're good !
Actually I didn't realize that. I mean, Kai, Dave I, Edu, Tamayo & Panopio being teammates in Batang Gilas U-19 team in the 2019 FIBA World U-19 Championship. That's 2 years already pero parang kailan lang. How time flies.
BTW, good to see that months of extensive training in "Calam-bubble" has tamed Dave Ildefonso's heavy-ball & volume shooter instincts. I think the key here is getting Dave to the Gilas cadet program as early as possible. I mean, its better that the flaws or shortcomings of his game were corrected or addressed at a younger age. Mas mahirap sigurong e correct or e retool ang game ni Dave Ildefonso if he's already 25 yrs. old.
Hope they stay even after 2023. Our ability to keep this group together is vital. Otherwise, reset na naman tayo sa seniors. We'll have to promote another batch of cadets again.
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IPC2
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japan is having that "gilas" moment back in 2014. it seemed back then that we would have crushed any asian team with ease, but foreseen and unforeseen circumstances broke that team apart. in just less than a year, they went from hero to zero. hopefully, by 2023, the philippine team will be as talented as this japan team.
This team has serious upside. I hope they realize that upside and we can eventually win a FIBA Asia gold, or at the very least, finish consistently at the podium.
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IPC2
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I hope we didn’t already lose Juan, Kobe and Lopez too (whose camp says pinaasa last OQT). Sayang naman talent nila.
I hope so too. There is still a chance for them, though. Juan has a Gilas clause in his B.League contract, and Lopez did thank Tab in his IG post announcing his Overtime Elite.
Kobe, I hope he can develop his game. However, his development window is closing, so he needs to get good enough for the national team. Hope he can succeed in his efforts to train and play for Gilas again.
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JAMSKIE2
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I'm not that high on 1GDL as much as I am on Lopez, specially since Lopez is getting basketball training & exposure in the US. You bet he's going to improve by a significant degree in a year or two.
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NOiNU2
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I think the renewed clamor for Juan emanates from the collective frustrations with our current crop of guards. With Lopez we can afford to be patient because Dwight, Balti, and Tamayo are doing fine. Even Navarro and Ildefonso are showing some improvements.I'm not that high on 1GDL as much as I am on Lopez, specially since Lopez is getting basketball training & exposure in the US. You bet he's going to improve by a significant degree in a year or two.
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DAdmiral2
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I don't think people appreciate how big of a deal Jalen Green coming to NBTC twice is.
This would not have happened without his camp having confidence with people they trust in the US ..
It's actually the same for any country with Pinoy connections, key people will only go to the Philippines if they have a connection and trust with someone they know from the country.
This would not have happened without his camp having confidence with people they trust in the US ..
It's actually the same for any country with Pinoy connections, key people will only go to the Philippines if they have a connection and trust with someone they know from the country.
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neo2
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I don't think people appreciate how big of a deal Jalen Green coming to NBTC twice is.
This would not have happened without his camp having confidence with people they trust in the US ..
It's actually the same for any country with Pinoy connections, key people will only go to the Philippines if they have a connection and trust with someone they know from the country.
hopefully he can play for us in d future. his ceiling is way above JC.
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IPC2
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why do we always assume na SMC players will never play with gilas? isali mo jan sa pool ang mga smc players tutal pool naman yan just to add a little pressure and then sbp can negotiate with chua. thats best thing SBP can do kesa "ay wag na lng natin isali yan kasi nasa SMC camp".
Actually, that can be a nice plan. Automatically designate the SMC players to the pool. However, there's the chance that players will beg off despite being named to the pool.
Least SBP can do is require a medical certificate in case of begging off due to injury, something like that (which is what I advocated for at some point). Then and only then will the players begging off will be allowed get out of the pool.
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reamily2
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Come on, thus guys are in 30s and families and we forced someone to play in nt. I think knowing these guys may ut mvp or smc or college players, I think desire to play for nt was there..Imagine the bashing thirdy and kobe get everytime they play for nt..
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sroth38392
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I think the renewed clamor for Juan emanates from the collective frustrations with our current crop of guards. With Lopez we can afford to be patient because Dwight, Balti, and Tamayo are doing fine. Even Navarro and Ildefonso are showing some improvements.
I'm willing to gamble on Suerte playing point at least for one game.
SJ and RJ had their chances. Unless they develop their court vision, I don't see them making the lineup if Kiefer, Bolick, and Dalph are available.
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IPC2
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Balti and Tamayo can't defend the interior against polished veteran players, they'll get fouled out if they keep being assigned to the opposing bigs, giving me a lot of Rosario flashbacks
At least Baltazar and Tamayo could contain the perimeter better. Troy's just a total defensive liability.
Well, to be fair, Baltazar and Tamayo did benefit from having Go, Chiu, and Kouame as teammates, so they're able to play the 3.
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IPC2
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Gilas played the projected 5 that will give the best results -- Dwight, Thirdy, Heading, Tamayo, Ange -- and that still lost. The last 5 was SJ, Dwight, Balti, Heading and Ange and that still lost. FB Chat was calling it was a cooking show haha. It is what it is. Sometimes it's just a matter of making shots.
Dwight efficiency at PG is so low at this point, if we want to maximize him as a scorer he has to play WITH a PG and NOT as as PG. again, target is 2023.my assessment is: if only Tamayo made more shots, then maybe we could have been close or even win it.
also, i'd rather take chemistry than an all-star hugot PBA style. the goal is still 2023.
Chemistry edi UP with ange o kunin ko richaun holmes na naturalized hehe
Actually. I'd love that idea. UP's one of the most talented UAAP team currently, after La Salle and probably Ateneo. That team has a lot of potential, tapos dagdag pa GDLs. I hope Tamayo recommends some UP talents to Tab.
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neo2
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At least Baltazar and Tamayo could contain the perimeter better. Troy's just a total defensive liability.
Well, to be fair, Baltazar and Tamayo did benefit from having Go, Chiu, and Kouame as teammates, so they're able to play the 3.
and troy played sf under yeng's system. tab used him as a pf even vs france and NZ in 2016 and he made an impact.