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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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IPC said:
Tab had Mike Nieto and Isaac Go. Difference is, Mike played way better in his role to defend, hustle, and make threes. Go is smart enough to know where to rotate, even though he bricks sometimes.
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Looking at the plus minus, the Mike Nieto minutes did as in against DR. He had a team worst minus 20 something in a 20 something loss. But those were qualifier games that were actually more for development. But this is the WC.

But I also think its the setups. Heading is a deadshot shooter but has a slow release. You have to give him wide open looks. I think this is partly the reason why our shooters are cold.

At this level I think kickouts are not very open considering the length and speed of the opponent. Consider our game against Korea, we forced to miss some of their open 3s or forced them to contested drives because we had 6’6 Navarro and 6’8 Balti running at them.

Looking at Nenads screens, they wouldve been perfect.
 
Rds said:
Looking at the plus minus, the Mike Nieto minutes did as in against DR. He had a team worst minus 20 something in a 20 something loss. But those were qualifier games that were actually more for development. But this is the WC.

But I also think its the setups. Heading is a deadshot shooter but has a slow release. You have to give him wide open looks. I think this is partly the reason why our shooters are cold.

At this level I think kickouts are not very open considering the length and speed of the opponent. Consider our game against Korea, we forced to miss some of their open 3s or forced them to contested drives because we had 6’6 Navarro and 6’8 Balti running at them.

Looking at Nenads screens, they wouldve been perfect.
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Point taken on Mike. It's just that he hasn't had multiple bad ganes, and always did his role. He's just not good enough.

Man, if Navarro and Balti made it. But, Navarro's injured and Chot doesn't know how to use him. Balti's not exactly in the radar.
 
Seriously why is Pogoy in the final 12.. I'll bet my bottom dollar he's not going to make a three against dr
 
I will say, I remember pogoy from the cadets, him jalalon and Rosario stood out. Pogoy stood out the most because he did the things that don’t show up on the stat sheet.
 
Rds said:
Looking at the plus minus, the Mike Nieto minutes did as in against DR. He had a team worst minus 20 something in a 20 something loss. But those were qualifier games that were actually more for development. But this is the WC.

But I also think its the setups. Heading is a deadshot shooter but has a slow release. You have to give him wide open looks. I think this is partly the reason why our shooters are cold.

At this level I think kickouts are not very open considering the length and speed of the opponent. Consider our game against Korea, we forced to miss some of their open 3s or forced them to contested drives because we had 6’6 Navarro and 6’8 Balti running at them.

Looking at Nenads screens, they wouldve been perfect.
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Heading I think has a quick release, Abando on this team I’d say has a slower release.
 
The TOs rate are crazy stats,thats way too much specially from the guards,its gonna be alot more booing if they have double digit TOs.
 
Maybe hard to believe but in at least one "closed-door" game, Pogoy was the reason the team won. I think he's one of the few players in the team suited for the ugly, slugfest type of game.

That is if he can walk the fine line between being that tirador/annoyer and not start a brawl. Every pinoy team has to have that one player.
 
Metta said:
Maybe hard to believe but in at least one "closed-door" game, Pogoy was the reason the team won. I think he's one of the few players in the team suited for the ugly, slugfest type of game.

That is if he can walk the fine line between being that tirador/annoyer and not start a brawl. Every pinoy team has to have that one player.
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He better play good on defense. Work to stay in front and position himself well. He used to be out of position a lot, and give up a lot of fouls.
 
IPC said:
He better play good on defense. Work to stay in front and position himself well. He used to be out of position a lot, and give up a lot of fouls.
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I think more than being the elite defender type, the role that he would play is the annoying defender type. Someone to throw off an opposing player who's too comfortable. Not necessarily with good defense.
 
Metta said:
I think more than being the elite defender type, the role that he would play is the annoying defender type. Someone to throw off an opposing player who's too comfortable. Not necessarily with good defense.
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This and designated tirador.
 
And before everyone gets carried away, don't forget that an Olympic berth basically sends us back to the stone age and kills any immediate signing of a foreign coach. Choke, PBA and SBP will have inflated egos even larger than the already-ginormous ones they currently have.

"Pansamantalang sarap, habang buhay na paghihirap." LOL
 
greenarcher said:
And before everyone gets carried away, don't forget that an Olympic berth basically sends us back to the stone age and kills any immediate signing of a foreign coach. Choke, PBA and SBP will have inflated egos even larger than the already-ginormous ones they currently have.

"Pansamantalang sarap, habang buhay na paghihirap." LOL
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That's what I'm worried about. An Olympic berth and a successful WC will convince the SBP to stay the course, even though the ship is only good for a few miles before sinking. Rebuilding might be out of the picture.

But, man, as a Filipino, I have to back our NT (which does sometimes mean having to criticize them for wrong decisions). It's just, the bullshit is making it a challenge to support. At least the Malditas have a good thing going, they hired another Aussie coach, and someone who had reached the finals in the women's A-League.
 
Metta said:
I think more than being the elite defender type, the role that he would play is the annoying defender type. Someone to throw off an opposing player who's too comfortable. Not necessarily with good defense.
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If that's the job description, I'd have gone for Abueva. Give him year-long shooting drills until he's shooting in his dreams. He's longer, more athletic and more annoying than Pogoy.
 
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