Sikatrix2
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We dont really have many options
We dont really have many options
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thatweirdguy2
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I've been saying this for a while. If Edu isn't healthy or isn't at the level we need him to be we won't achieve much. Teams would take advantage whenever Kai sits. You still won't know which Japeth is going to show up on each game.
Plus we'll be replacing Kouame's rebounding and rim protection with JC who's a notoriously bad defender.. this isn't going to end well for our Frontline
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live_evil2
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we would need Fajardo as our banger. Kai, Edu, and Japeth aren't exactly going to win sumo matches with the world-level frontlines of other countries. A Marc Gasol elbow would be devastating to our lean frontliners.
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IPC2
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The basketball program has to step up, even after the World Cup: https://sports.inquirer.net/493773/...r-the-philippines-a-need-to-make-things-count
Here's the important part re: basketball program:
"If you limit yourself to judging Yeng Guiao based on his PBA avatar?the brash, temperamental, curse-spitting figure patrolling the Rain or Shine sideline?you will end up underappreciating the veteran coach?s genius.
He talks within the limits of his reality, careful to choose his words so that he does not end up with declarations he cannot back. Even Guiao?s coaching philosophy is grounded on the limits of his team vis-a-vis the PBA?s super squads, revealing a few tricks that he hopes will give him ?an inch or so of an advantage.?
?These little things,? Guiao said, ?when you put them together, will give us?at least?a fighting chance.?
?But don?t write about that because then, we lose what little edge we have,? he said, laughing.
Then, as as he sipped from his coffee cup, he pondered, among other things, the question: ?What should the Philippines gain from hosting the Fiba World Cup??
The question was posed because after the Samahang Basketball ng Pilipinas rode out a wave of criticism and undue hate over the performance of national coach and Gilas Pilipinas program director Chot Reyes, there was an early feeling that the national federation wants to get basketball?s centerpiece event over and done with.
Guiao could have swatted hard at the cottonball pitch of a question with generic answers like ?national pride? or a chance to showcase to the world the country?s love for a sport so incongruent with its natural physical attributes and abilities.
?What I really hope is that by getting exposed to the top national teams in the world and looking at how they build their teams for events like this,? said the one-time World Cup mentor.
For Guiao, there is an utmost urgency for the SBP to focus heavily on the grassroots.
It seems paradoxical, coming from a coach who is a proponent of building the national team out of the PBA?s talent pool. But, he argued, it?s sensible if you think of grassroots as the high school level.
For Guiao, it is a better way that trusting college leagues and schools to regularly open their doors to the national team and allow its talents to form a long-term cadet squad for future competitions.
?How many programs still do that today? How many successful programs?? Guiao said, adding it would be better to ?train talents at the high school level to imbibe the national team?s system so that it becomes second nature to them.?"
I'd like to add that we should focus on grassroots development of international-style players in skill, talent, and height, especially in the wing and four positions. Furthermore, if we are to "train talents at the high school level to imbibe the national team?s system so that it becomes second nature to them,? we need that system to be good enough, on offense, and especially on defense.
Here's the important part re: basketball program:
"If you limit yourself to judging Yeng Guiao based on his PBA avatar?the brash, temperamental, curse-spitting figure patrolling the Rain or Shine sideline?you will end up underappreciating the veteran coach?s genius.
He talks within the limits of his reality, careful to choose his words so that he does not end up with declarations he cannot back. Even Guiao?s coaching philosophy is grounded on the limits of his team vis-a-vis the PBA?s super squads, revealing a few tricks that he hopes will give him ?an inch or so of an advantage.?
?These little things,? Guiao said, ?when you put them together, will give us?at least?a fighting chance.?
?But don?t write about that because then, we lose what little edge we have,? he said, laughing.
Then, as as he sipped from his coffee cup, he pondered, among other things, the question: ?What should the Philippines gain from hosting the Fiba World Cup??
The question was posed because after the Samahang Basketball ng Pilipinas rode out a wave of criticism and undue hate over the performance of national coach and Gilas Pilipinas program director Chot Reyes, there was an early feeling that the national federation wants to get basketball?s centerpiece event over and done with.
Guiao could have swatted hard at the cottonball pitch of a question with generic answers like ?national pride? or a chance to showcase to the world the country?s love for a sport so incongruent with its natural physical attributes and abilities.
?What I really hope is that by getting exposed to the top national teams in the world and looking at how they build their teams for events like this,? said the one-time World Cup mentor.
For Guiao, there is an utmost urgency for the SBP to focus heavily on the grassroots.
It seems paradoxical, coming from a coach who is a proponent of building the national team out of the PBA?s talent pool. But, he argued, it?s sensible if you think of grassroots as the high school level.
For Guiao, it is a better way that trusting college leagues and schools to regularly open their doors to the national team and allow its talents to form a long-term cadet squad for future competitions.
?How many programs still do that today? How many successful programs?? Guiao said, adding it would be better to ?train talents at the high school level to imbibe the national team?s system so that it becomes second nature to them.?"
I'd like to add that we should focus on grassroots development of international-style players in skill, talent, and height, especially in the wing and four positions. Furthermore, if we are to "train talents at the high school level to imbibe the national team?s system so that it becomes second nature to them,? we need that system to be good enough, on offense, and especially on defense.
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Metta2
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We could never go wrong by focusing on grassroots development. If we want lasting success, we need long-term strategies. And we don't need to reinvent the wheel, let us study countries with success in terms of development and start from there. For starters our neighbors Japan and SK (in terms of producing D1 and nba talent). And Australia is very informative because their process is very well-defined like what DAdmiral listed.
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mathematicianrcg2
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I guess our Frontline will be
Kai, Japeth, JMF, and Not 100% Edu
They all have concerns. But they are the best we can offer. I mean who else is 6'10 above Center (gilas eligible) who is more capable than the 4 bigs above? ( I mean Center, Not PF like Tamayo)
Every Player has weakness. It is in the coaching staff how you minimize your weakness, and maximize your team strengths.
So, hopefully our coaches will put a good defensive scheme with the help of that new european coach.
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I mean after them, we dont have many options. Almazan? Geo Chiu? Erram? Justin Chua? Ian Sanggalang?
With all due respect, I will pick Kai, JMF, Japeth, and AJ over them anyday.
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DAdmiral2
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not counting Kai, i would get only 2 of the 3 ( 4 centers is too much and depleting the other spots)
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mathematicianrcg2
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DAdmiral2
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Japs and AJ ( even at 50 %), japs can split mins at 5/4
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IPC2
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Might need a banger with Kai, AJ, and Japeth, although I understand where you're coming from (rim protection and defense). Who will be that guy if not June Mar? Carl and Mason, perhaps?
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BJ_Reloaded2
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Carl and Balti can fill-up some few minutes in the 5 spots if worse come to worse but not the entire 40 minutes of the game(Almazan, Erram, Greg toss-up for that 12th spot) if only AK34 becomes local in the eyes of FIBA…he really needs to play in the PBA same treatment just like any Filipinos and at the same time pile up more things for that basketball heritage thing as part of his case build-up to be presented to the Sec Gen and his Technical Eligibility committee.
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IPC2
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Yeah, we need players who can perform well in the international stage against good competition. Kai, Dwight, and maybe Carl, Parks, and Heading come to mind from the current crop of FIBA-fit players. Then surround them with a mix of veterans that can fill needs, and youngsters that can also fill needs while having the potential to perform well.
I agree with trying something new after the WC. Even in the qualifiers and for this WC, let's do something new, that works or can work. In the absence of a pure PG, we need players that have enough sense to find the open man when he doesn't have an opening, can't create an opening, or when somebody closes out on him and he has a more open teammate. Read and react. And, we need tall, versatile and/or high-upside players, especially at the 3 and 4 positions. And a better defensive culture.
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JAMSKIE2
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Here is how I see it in so far as my choices for Gilas big men for the 2023 World Cup:
Kai Sotto & AJ Edu are locked. My dilemma is choosing between Japeth & Junmar as I also believe having 4 natural centers in the team won't be good.
With Japeth, you have a mobile & athletic big guy but is a "softie". Junmar on the other hand, while physically tough, would be a deadweight in defending pick & roll or pick & pop plays. Mabigat talaga ang paa ni Junmar specially after that leg injury & of course wear & tear as well.
Kai Sotto & AJ Edu are locked. My dilemma is choosing between Japeth & Junmar as I also believe having 4 natural centers in the team won't be good.
With Japeth, you have a mobile & athletic big guy but is a "softie". Junmar on the other hand, while physically tough, would be a deadweight in defending pick & roll or pick & pop plays. Mabigat talaga ang paa ni Junmar specially after that leg injury & of course wear & tear as well.
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Supremo302
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Right now, I'll pick JMF rather than AJ Edu. Talking to this coming WC, JMF is a much more logical choice than Edu. JMF has already proven himself that he can compete with the other bigs in International competitions. Let's remember that, not all nations who will participate in the WC have an agile big, especially the African countries, they still use the traditional bigs who bangs inside to produce score.
AJ is still good, but his time will come maybe this Asian Games.
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thatweirdguy2
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Agree with you. At least Jap and AJ could play the 4/backup 5. JMF is purely a C now. Man. I can still remember when we excited and were begging for him to get PT. Time flies fast.
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KoolAid2
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I can't imagine the uproar in the PBA/SMC camp if their 6 time MVP is not included in the final lineup. lmao SMC fantards will get mad
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mathematicianrcg2
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I think those 4 Centers will be put in the pool.
Kai is a lock but AJ, JMF, and Japeth
Whoever performs the worst will be cut, as he should be. If we are just limiting it to 3 Bigs.
Actually, the Swings also is a tryout waiting to happen
JC is a lock. But Parks, Perez, Dwight, Thirdy, Pogoy, Wright, and maybe Heading will fight for those spots.
PG, I think it will just be Scottie, Kiefer, and Bolick as the selection. Probably will only choose 1 or 2.
Combo Forwards - Obviously, Malonzo, Tamayo, and Baltazar
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NOiNU2
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Unpopular take I have floated months ago?Japeth has to go if Edu is available. This was even when Japs had a nice showing in the windows he?s played in. Edu has the ability to contain the perimeter and guard the PnR, something both Japs and Junmar can?t. It really is between Junmar and Japeth.
Of course we could always have them both, but at what expense? I?d honestly won?t beef up the frontcourt by cutting a quality guard or wing. Any two of Tamayo, Baltazar and Malonzo should suffice to shore up the frontcourt and offer more game dynamics in the process. Why Junmar over Japs? Same reason: different things to offer.
Of course we could always have them both, but at what expense? I?d honestly won?t beef up the frontcourt by cutting a quality guard or wing. Any two of Tamayo, Baltazar and Malonzo should suffice to shore up the frontcourt and offer more game dynamics in the process. Why Junmar over Japs? Same reason: different things to offer.
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Rds2
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Let's say Edu is not healthy enough. Which bigs will you pick aside from Kai? Kai, Japeth and Junemar?