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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

DAdmiral said:
It was actually a real thing , when Clarkson tweeted he would play Power forward (in the window). Yes we actually have to resort to some of our wings Dwight, Clarkson playing some 4 . (I'm serious).
This is really are state or lack of legit mobile forwards
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You are really not a fan of Twin Towers Frontline. Lol

Like Kai/Edu or Junmar/Japeth at C/PF.

However, I think both styles will be tried and tested in game.

I mean both Wing at PF and Center at PF will be tested by Coach Chot depending on matchups.
 
mathematicianrcg said:
You are really not a fan of Twin Towers Frontline. Lol

Like Kai/Edu or Junmar/Japeth at C/PF.

However, I think both styles will be tried and tested in game.

I mean both Wing at PF and Center at PF will be tested by Coach Chot depending on matchups.
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Dwight was pretty good at 4 the past windows. I won't complain, especially if against Lebanon or even Jordan or SoKor.
 
mathematicianrcg said:
I think there are just some players that are very good in PBA but not in Fiba Or International

For ex. Arwind Santos and KG Canaleta. I think they are more suited in PBA than Fiba
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Yeah, some PBA stars' games don't translate to FIBA.
Like Arwind. A thin 6'4" PF who is best as a help defender, and who's not good guarding the post, and might not likely battle inside for rebounds. Furthermore, his only perimeter skill is shooting.

You can include Ian Sangalang in that group. Good low-post scorer in the PBA, but he shoots only up to 18 feet, and can't guard in space at all for a 6'6" guy.

I mean, lesser stars and role players' games translate better, like Navarro, Fonacier, MGR (if only on defense), and Chan.
 
Silent Killer said:
I remember i mentioned that SMB should be flexible on their plays in regards on fajardo.. people didnt like the idea though.. what is 3-4 3 pt attempts? And the coach should teach or help JF improved his perimeter D and people didnt like it either
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And, you can be strong inside without sacrificing mobility. And I also said once about June Mar's rice intake, yeah, he likes rice, but that should come with the corresponding conditioning to ensure that he can still be a force inside while not sacrificing mobility, to offset any possible weight gain.

Sayang. OK, he's serviceable in FIBA as a scoring option and rebounding presence, but yeah, he could have been more on defense, both in FIBA and the PBA. And, feeding him inside a little more could help.
 
IPC said:
And, you can be strong inside without sacrificing mobility. And I also said once about June Mar's rice intake, yeah, he likes rice, but that should come with the corresponding conditioning to ensure that he can still be a force inside while not sacrificing mobility, to offset any possible weight gain.

Sayang. OK, he's serviceable in FIBA as a scoring option and rebounding presence, but yeah, he could have been more on defense, both in FIBA and the PBA. And, feeding him inside a little more could help.
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Anyway, Junmar is most likely to be a part of next year's Gilas WC Roster. Especially without Ange and maybe not 100% AJ.

Based on Coach Chot and Coach Tim Tendencies imo. I think these are the players who will they choose in the Pool

PBA: Scottie, Malonzo, Japeth, CJ, Junmar, Bolick, Newsome, Alas, Navarro, Oftana, and

yes Pogoy (Coach Chot).

Non PBA - Kai, AJ, Dwight , Parks, Kiefer, Tamayo, Baltazar, Thirdy, Wright, Heading, Tuffin, Dalph

NP pool: JC, Ange, and Brownlee
 
mathematicianrcg said:
Anyway, Junmar is most likely to be a part of next year's Gilas WC Roster. Especially without Ange and maybe not 100% AJ.

Based on Coach Chot and Coach Tim Tendencies imo. I think these are the players who will they choose in the Pool

PBA: Scottie, Malonzo, Japeth, CJ, Junmar, Bolick, Newsome, Alas, Navarro, Oftana, and

yes Pogoy (Coach Chot).

Non PBA - Kai, AJ, Dwight , Parks, Kiefer, Tamayo, Baltazar, Thirdy, Wright, Heading, Tuffin, Dalph

NP pool: JC, Ange, and Brownlee
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Ange aint happening. He is about to undergo ACL reconstruction.
 
I made some sort of research/scouting about Jordan national team top local player 7-foot Ahmed Al Dwairi. I think with Hamed Haddadi now getting old & getting washed up, Al Dwairi, China's Zhou Qi & of course our very own Kai Sotto are among the elite centers among locals in Asian basketball at present. From what I saw in Al Dwairi's game, he is really more of a back-to-the-basket type of a big guy. It seems 3-point shooting is non-existent in his game & in fact I hardly saw him hit medium range jumpers. I think Junmar Fajardo may have a better mid-range jump shot than him.

We saw an Al Dwairi-Kai Sotto match-up when Gilas faced Jordan in the 5th window with Al Dwairi getting the better over Kai. But I think Kai was able to hold his own against Al Dwairi. We have to remember, it was a match up between a 20-year old kid who is just a 2nd year pro versus a 29-year old grown man who is already at the peak of his career. Kai has nothing to be ashamed of with the way he held his own against Al Dwairi. Al Dwairi may be able to outmuscle Kai at present but wait till Kai's body further matures & gains strength in a few years & the tables might be reversed. I see Kai as more skilled than Al Dwairi, not to mention that he is taller than Al Dwairi. Kai has a 3-point shooting (though not yet consistent) in his arsenal & he can dribble drive which makes him dangerous offense wise. As his body matures & gets stronger, Kai's back-to-the-basket inside game is expected to improve.

This season, Al Dwairi is averaging 7.5 pts & 6.6 rebs./game while playing 21 mins./game with his team in the Turkish BSL pro league. Kai on the other hand is averaging 6 pts & 4.3 rebs. in only 13 mins. of playing time per game in the NBL. Imagine what Kai's average would be if he gets around 18 to 20 mins of playing time.

I think the Turkish BSL is slightly more competitive than NBL-Australia. That is why I'm convinced that if for instance Al Dwairi gets to play in Australia, he most likely would be hitting in double figures in scoring (say 10 pts per game).
 
zairex said:
I really don't know where people get thier stat on our rebounding. We always are top 5 rebounder in Asia tournaments.
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Really? It almost always feels like we are the worst perimeter shooting team and rebounding team on the games I've watch.
BTW who is our top rebounder?
 
I think we have outrebounded Lebanon (though we lost the game), Saudi Arabia (both games) & Jordan in the 4th & 5th windows.

I think na outrebound tayo in almost all of our games in the last FIBA Asia Cup, but that Gilas team was depleted as guys like Kai Sotto, Ange Kouame, Dwight Ramos & our PBA boys weren't available, so I think its understandable.

I think in so far as Asian level lang ang pinag uusapan, di tayo madedehado having guys like Kai, Kouame (if he is our NP), Japeth, Junmar, AJ Edu, Tamayo, Baltazar, Jamie Malonzo in the frontcourt.
 
thatweirdguy said:
Really? It almost always feels like we are the worst perimeter shooting team and rebounding team on the games I've watch.
BTW who is our top rebounder?
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Not to mention terrible defense from 2017 to 2019, last February window, last SEA Games, and last Asia Cup. We gave up a lot of efficient games from Japan, China, SoKor (70-something 3PT%), Kazakhstan, and Lebanon. Thank God we got personnel in Dwight, Malonzo, Ange, Scottie, Thirdy, Perez, Japeth, and until recently Navarro (hope he recovers well) to help. Heck, even Pogoy became a good defender last window.

As for top rebounders, it's Kai with 9.3 RPG. Next is Scottie, with 7.3.
 
Is Jamie Malonzo our current version of Kelly Williams in the Gilas team? Halos identical kasi laro nilang 2. While I believe that prime Kelly Williams was the better defender, I think Malonzo is the better offensive player. Malonzo has better shooting than a prime Kelly Williams & I think Malonzo can play the small forward spot better than Kelly.

I think both are good rebounders.
 
JAMSKIE said:
Is Jamie Malonzo our current version of Kelly Williams in the Gilas team? Halos identical kasi laro nilang 2. While I believe that prime Kelly Williams was the better defender, I think Malonzo is the better offensive player. Malonzo has better shooting than a prime Kelly Williams & I think Malonzo can play the small forward spot better than Kelly.

I think both are good rebounders.
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Hindi rin, Malonzo is pretty unique that he is more of a combo forward while Kelly is more PF/C. Malonzo has more guard skills than Kelly IMO.
 
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