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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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Question about Balti, though. What player's gonna replicate his skillset (especially his defensive versatility) if ever he's consistently unavailable for call-ups? Might need to look for 6'7"-6'8" bigs with that skillset.

The U-18/19 kids would do, but if we're talking about 2023, i think no one can replicate the readiness that Balti can provide. Give those young standouts at least a year to develop (too bad they all can't be members of ADMU and UP), perhaps someone can get close. But if it's 2025 and the 2027 WC qualifiers, I guess that spot's Demisana 's to lose.
 
Erram is useful for exactly 7 minutes before he commits his final flagrant 2. Almazan and Erram provides absolutely nothing that Balti and Tamayo won't do in spades. Oh nvm it's a PBA coach suggesting this, why even bother with pragmatism lmaooooo. Honest question, how tf do you guys cope with being Gilas fans? monitoring this shitshow makes me want to smoke one pack of cigarettes a day. Just an absolute disgrace that even guys like Nenad isn't willing to be a part of anymore.

literally lol'ed at the erram quip.

why almazan and erram? to hammer home the point that the PBA is the best lmao

how do i cope, honestly stopped watching the seniors games. was watching the recent u16/18 games but losing interest as well.
 
Homer says that Cone told him that we have a chance to dominate Asia: https://twitter.com/HomerSayson/status/1563839951065808896?t=iXEmDXDF2HRDOgOgpAu1Lg&s=19

However, Cone also reportedly said that we need to add June Mar, Perez, Erram, and Almazan to that core.

No offense, Coach Tim, but are they really our best options for a core? June Mar, Erram, and Almazan turn 33 this year, and they'll most likely be good until 2025 at most, and there are better bigman options than Erram and Almazan, although Erram is useful.

This is why Tab said we dont need a lot of bigs. He only needs Kouame and maybe Kai. The rest are not typical bigs. Balti is a stretch 4 who can switch in the perimeter. Carl is versatile on offense. Then you have other long switchable guys down the roster and only one sub 6 foot guy. You only need one center and a backup and the rest are long quick switchable guys.
 
Question about Balti, though. What player's gonna replicate his skillset (especially his defensive versatility) if ever he's consistently unavailable for call-ups? Might need to look for 6'7"-6'8" bigs with that skillset.

any of the youngsters that hasn't developed bad pba tendencies yet, Gagate, Amos and Konov should be developed to his archetype at a way younger age. Honestly Balti is a new player archetype, he saved himself from peaking as a Rosario and Almazan 2.0 by moving overseas and away from the pba. Imo, pinoy coaches can't utilize B League players properly(except a proactive player like Dwight) because they seem to be developing differently. I predict Balti, Parks, Kiefer and the rest of the B League boys will be very very solid role players under proper guidance(FOREIGN COACH), the new KBL batch too like Abando, Navarro and possibly Tamayo. These guys need a non-local non-pba coach. PBA's losses to Indonesia and Japan(pba coached in the Japan game at least) shows the league's inability to transition from less midget guard hero ball game and adapt to modern basketball paradigms. To go back to your point, idt we'll see a proper or better Baltazar type player develop for a long time as long as the PBA controls and influence the NT from head to toe. Tab's program was really lightning in a bottle that SBP threw away. Balti was a year long project spanning multiple windows and even stints like the Abdullah Cup, Chot and the PBA only chooses players who are already bottled and ready for the pba, they will never ever develop a Baltazar, Ramos and Tamayo, their closest equivalent is Erram, Almazan/Rosario and CBC/Maliksi, complete duds in the international stage.
 
any of the youngsters that hasn't developed bad pba tendencies yet, Gagate, Amos and Konov should be developed to his archetype at a way younger age. Honestly Balti is a new player archetype, he saved himself from peaking as a Rosario and Almazan 2.0 by moving overseas and away from the pba. Imo, pinoy coaches can't utilize B League players properly(except a proactive player like Dwight) because they seem to be developing differently. I predict Balti, Parks, Kiefer and the rest of the B League boys will be very very solid role players under proper guidance(FOREIGN COACH), the new KBL batch too like Abando, Navarro and possibly Tamayo. These guys need a non-local non-pba coach. PBA's losses to Indonesia and Japan(pba coached in the Japan game at least) shows the league's inability to transition from less midget guard hero ball game and adapt to modern basketball paradigms. To go back to your point, idt we'll see a proper or better Baltazar type player develop for a long time as long as the PBA controls and influence the NT from head to toe. Tab's program was really lightning in a bottle that SBP threw away. Balti was a year long project spanning multiple windows and even stints like the Abdullah Cup, Chot and the PBA only chooses players who are already bottled and ready for the pba, they will never ever develop a Baltazar, Ramos and Tamayo, their closest equivalent is Erram, Almazan and CBC, complete duds in the international stage.

Good blueprint nga sana ang program ni Tab, e. It had disciplined defense as a foundation, then inserted a workable offensive system where almost everyone could be useful on offense. On top of that, developed Navarro into a wing defender for Gilas, and then Balti into a switchable combo forward. Carl developed into a tweener forward offensively as well (although Goldwin Monteverde helped kick start that in their NSNU days). Dwight also as a shooting guard and secondary ballhandler.

And then, composed of Ange as the anchor/rim protector, then you have Balti, Navarro, and Dwight as versatile defenders. Man, what a dream.

I'm just hoping that defense is a cornerstone for the program moving forward.
 
The U-18/19 kids would do, but if we're talking about 2023, i think no one can replicate the readiness that Balti can provide. Give those young standouts at least a year to develop (too bad they all can't be members of ADMU and UP), perhaps someone can get close. But if it's 2025 and the 2027 WC qualifiers, I guess that spot's Demisana 's to lose.

I'll wait and see on UP muna. We did play 6'4" Torculas and 6'6" Lucero at 3 in Filoil, when we had Carl, Malick, Lina, Catapusan, and Galinato.

Hope we use 6'5" Ashon Andrews, 6'6" Lowell Briones (another Gilas-eligible guy), and 6'6" Mark Belmonte in the same way (although he did show perimeter skill in the Pinoyliga and UCBL, and he was allowed to play like a wing).

Ateneo, yeah, developing versatile forwards. Hope Ballungay, Lazaro, and Bongo end up like better shooting versions of Navarro.
 
Erram is useful for exactly 7 minutes before he commits his final flagrant 2. Almazan and Erram provides absolutely nothing that Balti and Tamayo won't do in spades. Oh nvm it's a PBA coach suggesting this, why even bother with pragmatism lmaooooo. Honest question, how tf do you guys cope with being Gilas fans? monitoring this shitshow makes me want to smoke one pack of cigarettes a day. Just an absolute disgrace that even guys like Nenad isn't willing to be a part of anymore.

CTC is now definitely a PBA tool,I don't like him HC either,he probably support a memo that anyone who wants to play for Gilas that are amateurs,should signed memorandum that they will play in the PBA a minimum of 4 years before playing overseas.
 
The U-18/19 kids would do, but if we're talking about 2023, i think no one can replicate the readiness that Balti can provide. Give those young standouts at least a year to develop (too bad they all can't be members of ADMU and UP), perhaps someone can get close. But if it's 2025 and the 2027 WC qualifiers, I guess that spot's Demisana 's to lose.

I do hope the U18/19 kids, as well as older amateurs, get their first call-up to the pool for the February 2024 window. We need to train and develop them for FIBA play and then establish chemistry with WC holdovers.
 
I do hope the U18/19 kids, as well as older amateurs, get their first call-up to the pool for the February 2024 window. We need to train and develop them for FIBA play and then establish chemistry with WC holdovers.


The 20 players that were called up for this past U18,should be formed again,even tho there's no other competition they should be sent to some minor tournaments to gain international exposure.When is the qualifier for the U23?
 
The 20 players that were called up for this past U18,should be formed again,even tho there's no other competition they should be sent to some minor tournaments to gain international exposure.When is the qualifier for the U23?

no u23 in asia..
 
https://www.spin.ph/multisport/form...w-psc-chairman-a2244-20220830?ref=home_feed_1

Noli Eala was appointed as PSC Chairman. Does he have any say in Philippine Baketball?

Well, Sec. 13 of RA 6847 says that the NSA's, one of which is SBP, are autonomous and have exclusive technical control over the promotion and development over the particular sport for which they are organized, subject to supervision by the PSC under Sec. 11 (j).

Just limited to a supervisory role, but they do have visitorial powers, which includes the power to regulate NSAs like SBP.
 
Well, Sec. 13 of RA 6847 says that the NSA's, one of which is SBP, are autonomous and have exclusive technical control over the promotion and development over the particular sport for which they are organized, subject to supervision by the PSC under Sec. 11 (j).

Just limited to a supervisory role, but they do have visitorial powers, which includes the power to regulate NSAs like SBP.

What does regulate mean? I don't think Noli has the power nor the appetite to replace Chot though.
 
What does regulate mean? I don't think Noli has the power nor the appetite to replace Chot though.

I dunno, maybe just discipline the heads of the NSAs for any bullshit, like with the PATAFA.
 
Im not really sure butting heads with SBP is something Eala can afford, sure he had the blessing of the president but to butt heads with MVP and ramon ang's cronies? Im not sure this is a fight he will win.
 
Im not really sure butting heads with SBP is something Eala can afford, sure he had the blessing of the president but to butt heads with MVP and ramon ang's cronies? Im not sure this is a fight he will win.

I think Kom. Noli was given the PSC Chair role, in order to continue the gains we had in the previous games. Thus, it will be incumbent upon him to sustain and improve
weight lifting
pole vault
gymnastics
ice skating

and the perennial favorites, the 3 Bs - boxing, bowling, and billiards.

Volleyball and Basketball will most likely take the back seat as these two are well funded privately.
 
I think Kom. Noli was given the PSC Chair role, in order to continue the gains we had in the previous games. Thus, it will be incumbent upon him to sustain and improve
weight lifting
pole vault
gymnastics
ice skating

and the perennial favorites, the 3 Bs - boxing, bowling, and billiards.

Volleyball and Basketball will most likely take the back seat as these two are well funded privately.

This is for the best, i do think the guy has good intentions
 
This is for the best, i do think the guy has good intentions

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No one in the SBP wakes up one morning and say "I wanna rack up Ls and be the most hated person in the Philippines", they're good intentioned people who just fucking suck at their jobs and should be replaced. I hope Eala makes a positive impact though
 
well, commish Eala is the real sportsperson. he knows the game well better than Panlilio, Vargas and Barrios.

While not too many people are pleased with Noli Eala, I think the man has a sincere heart in helping Philippine basketball. We have to remember that Eala was the one who modified the PBA calendar in the mid-2000's during his term as PBA Commissioner. Such modification was aimed to syncronize the PBA calendar with FIBA. That is why during the months of July, August, September, our PBA players were available for national team duties since it was PBA off season during that period. Imagine if the PBA continued what Eala has started in so far as PBA calendar is concerned. Available sana mga Gilas prospect PBA players natin during the months of July, Aug. & Sept.

Also under Commisioner Noli Eala, PBA season was reduced to only 2 conferences which for me made a lot lot more sense than a 3-conference PBA season.
 
While not too many people are pleased with Noli Eala, I think the man has a sincere heart in helping Philippine basketball. We have to remember that Eala was the one who modified the PBA calendar in the mid-2000's during his term as PBA Commissioner. Such modification was aimed to syncronize the PBA calendar with FIBA. That is why during the months of July, August, September, our PBA players were available for national team duties since it was PBA off season during that period. Imagine if the PBA continued what Eala has started in so far as PBA calendar is concerned. Available sana mga Gilas prospect PBA players natin during the months of July, Aug. & Sept.

Also under Commisioner Noli Eala, PBA season was reduced to only 2 conferences which for me made a lot lot more sense than a 3-conference PBA season.

Eala is a polarizing guy. He did some good things back in GILAS one though he did burned a lot of bridges. And of course he had some off the court scandal(s?). Well they could have had worse choices. At least this guys knows his basketball
 
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