Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V
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Well, local coaches for Gilas are OK, as long as they have mentorship and are more tactically mature (which I have said leaves it to the younger generation of coaches like Goldwin, Charles Tiu, Aldin Ayo, Chito Victolero). Better sana kung may foreign mentor, but if local, train them overseas, and just have Jong in the coaching staff.
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As for building for the future, Boss has no choice. Need to prepare for life after the useful PBA players because, most of them are old or aging. By February 2024 (first window after WC) June Mar and Erram will be 34 going 35, Japeth will be 37, Castro will be 36 going 37, Perez, Parks, and Scottie will be 30 going 31, Marcio will be 35 going 36, Terrence will be 32 going 33. Only Oftana and Malonzo will be the useful Gilas players below 30, with maybe Mamu, Javi, and maybe Arana and Ambohot as useful contributors.
So yeah, I think after the WC, it's time for a rebuild with useful younger PBA, collegiate, B.League, and KBL players, and call up as many as possible to form a 22-30 man pool. Add some of this year's U16 and U18 players into the mix. We can't rely on the older guys forever.
yeah it does sound weird that we have a lot of talented tall 4s right now. but it's a good problem to have. not to mention our young guys offer different skillsets so it gives us plenty of options. tamayo as the face up four, mike as the energy guy rim running type, and baltazar as the versatile four who could defend wings.
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subsandwiched2
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I have no issue about NP. But having foreign players with no Filipino blood to play as a local is revolting. I don't think the PH is that desperate. We will win or loss with what we have. I'd rather see a fighting PH team loss to Cambodia than win against Lebanon with Kouame playing as local
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I dont mind the blood thing as long as its people who are Filipino in there heart. Someone like Ola Adeogun. Someone doing it for the money though is a problem (Not necessarily Kouame but well get to know more after his Ateneo stint).
Incoming days-long lecture and debate from Analyzed and Labradoodle regarding PHL citizenship and Hagop rule purpose, LOL! But on a serious note, I think it would be most definitely okay for me to have Kouame around as a local as he's not the mercenary type. Gotta move on with the times.
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Hopefully we can see taller 3's (6'5"+) and even 2's (6'4"+) in the future, plus more versatile 4's and 5's on both ends.
Konov, Koon and Ballungay eventually plus Philipps, Lucero probably
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I hope Abadam, Demisana, Konov develop into that kind of mold as well. They might have potential for that.
Just a question why would it be okay for someone who is 1/4th Filipino and doesn't speak tagalog, has never been developed by a Philippine Club, doesn't really understand PH culture be considered as a local? But then someone, who even thoguh has no filipino blood, but can speak tagalog, has filipino basketball heritage, born/raised in the Philippines, looks desperate.
empyreanmaze2
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It's really all arbitrary if you dig too deep into it so we just use colorism as a basis for citizenship, if you're less black in a predominantly black country, you're more foreigner and vice versa. It's sad and regressive but that's how the world works.
Ethnicity as basis of citizenship is really outdated. In other countries it is really residency and the ability to speak the native language.
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Homer says that Cone told him that we have a chance to dominate Asia: https://twitter.com/HomerSayson/status/1563839951065808896?t=iXEmDXDF2HRDOgOgpAu1Lg&s=19
However, Cone also reportedly said that we need to add June Mar, Perez, Erram, and Almazan to that core.
No offense, Coach Tim, but are they really our best options for a core? June Mar, Erram, and Almazan turn 33 this year, and they'll most likely be good until 2025 at most, and there are better bigman options than Erram and Almazan, although Erram is useful.
However, Cone also reportedly said that we need to add June Mar, Perez, Erram, and Almazan to that core.
No offense, Coach Tim, but are they really our best options for a core? June Mar, Erram, and Almazan turn 33 this year, and they'll most likely be good until 2025 at most, and there are better bigman options than Erram and Almazan, although Erram is useful.
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empyreanmaze2
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Erram is useful for exactly 7 minutes before he commits his final flagrant 2. Almazan and Erram provides absolutely nothing that Balti and Tamayo won't do in spades. Oh nvm it's a PBA coach suggesting this, why even bother with pragmatism lmaooooo. Honest question, how tf do you guys cope with being Gilas fans? monitoring this shitshow makes me want to smoke one pack of cigarettes a day. Just an absolute disgrace that even guys like Nenad isn't willing to be a part of anymore.
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Question about Balti, though. What player's gonna replicate his skillset (especially his defensive versatility) if ever he's consistently unavailable for call-ups? Might need to look for 6'7"-6'8" bigs with that skillset.