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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

Many Africans residing here are like that.

We are really blood/relationship-centric that we are even taking pride for Fil-Foreigners succeeding overseas when they don't even have cultural links to the Philippines. Still recognize as Filipino citizens those with Filipino parents but make things a little bit easier for those that want to become Filipino citizens.

For me, i want balance, as all things should be

We let the best one get away: Ben Mbala.
 
Choke Reyes & SBP believing that the solution to this mess is by bringing in as many PBA players in the Gilas team is like saving a sinking save with a pail.

Coaching is the root of the problem, not the players.

They want the PBA players with much less FIBA experience that the cadets
 
They want the PBA players with much less FIBA experience that the cadets

PBA players some of whom have bad habits which would be detrimental to Gilas in the long run. PBA players who might even disrupt the chemistry which was already established by the cadet or developmental players from last year. I believe that players like Dwight, Thirdy, WillNav, Tamayo, Balty, Chiu, Kai, Kouame, Belangel, Abarrientos already have established chemistry.

As I kept on saying, I want only about 2 or 3 PBA players in the Gilas final 12-man roster. Anything beyond that No. may have adverse effect on the team.
 
This team didn't play Pinoy style in this tournament: https://twitter.com/kilikilishot/status/1549393346703294465?t=_K5Z7zAJ6mcTZt5XdE8Ixg&s=19

Says the system controlled the players too much, although he acknowledges that it might be for the best long-term.

He further said that Pinoy basketball identity is run-and-gun, and play semi-physical. While I couldn't care less about the offense, so long as it works, I just wish that that physicality is used on defense. Since Ping, RDO, and Abueva left, our defense has been bad or finesse.

Honestly, I'd want a defensive identity for the team. Emulate NZ's physicality, and just add a defensive system and constant coaching and drilling. If you want a run-and-gun team that is also physical but disciplined on defense, I think UP might be good to emulate. We ran a lot, and we also defended well, especially against Ateneo in the finals. Blitz schemes, pressing, good rotations, and effort on defense.
 
that's why our citizenship laws are absurd - you are either born or raised in the philippines. breathe as a filipino. talk and walk like a filipino. you are culturally-assimilated with those in the philippines. however, since your parents are not filipinos, the only way you can become a filipino is through naturalization. that's absurd.

Tim Cone has been eligible for citizenship for decades, just doesn't want to deal with the cost/hassle I guess
 
The only way I could see Gilas being saved is the immediate reinstatement of Tab's program and the hope that between now and the WC that it will be enough preparation/finishing touches for him. It's up to the SBP if they are willing to admit their mistakes, but I doubt it will happen, especially since they retained Chot despite his greatest historical making achievement in the SEA games.

Yeah. Reinstate the defensive mindset, disciplined rotation, and get as many versatile defensive players (for FIBA) as possible. However, we need some physicality too. Get used to taking and dishing it.

The tournaments where we went far (2013 and 2015), we were good defensively. The moment we sucked on defense, that was the moment we fell off.
 
He further said that Pinoy basketball identity is run-and-gun, and play semi-physical. While I couldn't care less about the offense, so long as it works, I just wish that that physicality is used on defense. Since Ping, RDO, and Abueva left, our defense has been bad or finesse.

Honestly, I'd want a defensive identity for the team. Emulate NZ's physicality, and just add a defensive system and constant coaching and drilling. If you want a run-and-gun team that is also physical but disciplined on defense, I think UP might be good to emulate. We ran a lot, and we also defended well, especially against Ateneo in the finals. Blitz schemes, pressing, good rotations, and effort on defense.

NZ and Oz physicality is different from the hurtful Espino, RDO style. Somebody put an elbow to JPS best shooter accidentally or otherwise. That is not the way to win. NZ physicality is bodying up guys not hidden punches or elbows. When our PH team first tastes that physicality it led to a melee. Problem is we are not as stocky as NZ or Oz guys. But we can try I guess. Note even prime Tim Duncan was bothered by Oz's physicality via Bogut. Though US has better handled it since.
 
NZ and Oz physicality is different from the hurtful Espino, RDO style. Somebody put an elbow to JPS best shooter accidentally or otherwise. That is not the way to win. NZ physicality is bodying up guys not hidden punches or elbows. When our PH team first tastes that physicality it led to a melee. Problem is we are not as stocky as NZ or Oz guys. But we can try I guess. Note even prime Tim Duncan was bothered by Oz's physicality via Bogut. Though US has better handled it since.

If you want allowable physicality here, look at how UP defended Ateneo and La Salle, sorry for the bias. We were physical against them, and they couldn't do anything. However, we didn't take cheap shots at them, just bodying up. Plus, we had good blitz schemes and hustle out to shooters and drivers.
 
If you want allowable physicality here, look at how UP defended Ateneo and La Salle, sorry for the bias. We were physical against them, and they couldn't do anything. However, we didn't take cheap shots at them, just bodying up. Plus, we had good blitz schemes and hustle out to shooters and drivers.

Not sure if the UP physical D is allowed in Fiba. But I guess it is a process to discover what is and is not allowed by the Fiba refs. My guess is bodying up is allowed. But if your man gets pushed visibly, the refs will whistle I guess. Kevin raising his arms to make it harder for Watanabe to score inside was allowed by the refs even if there was arm contact. You can see in Watanabes face that he thought those shouldve been and ones. Too bad Kevin was too short to make the stops. But the defense was decent. If that was say Balti then those wouldve been probably stops.
 
https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...ll-change-if-nenad-is-gilas-head-coach/245837

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Chot says ‘not much will change’ if Nenad is Gilas head coach

“That’s always a possibility but even if he is the head coach, it’s not going to give us a naturalized player or the players that we want. Not much is going to change. You’re still not going to get the preparation time."

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Isn't that the job of the program director Mr. Chot Reyes?

i give up, Chot's too stubborn to give up the coaching position and would just point fingers than owe up to his boo-boos..You can have Gilas all for yourself.
 
https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...ll-change-if-nenad-is-gilas-head-coach/245837

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Chot says ‘not much will change’ if Nenad is Gilas head coach

“That’s always a possibility but even if he is the head coach, it’s not going to give us a naturalized player or the players that we want. Not much is going to change. You’re still not going to get the preparation time."

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Isn't that the job of the program director Mr. Chot Reyes?

I think the PBA won't give players if Nenad's the coach.
 
I think the PBA won't give players if Nenad's the coach.

They will. If gilas with mainly kbl and bleague stars attain success, it will further weaken d pba's facade. If gilas fail, easy for nenad n fans to blame d pba people for turning their backs ⁹from d country just when we r d host.
 
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