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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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I think there are players, in particular PBA players, who didn't have much impact during their early 20's but started to make noticeable impact when they reached 26, 27, 28 years old. Jeff Chan is a good example. He played for Gilas when he was already in his late 20's & he made good impact with Gilas during his stint. I don't think Chan would have made the same impact had he played for the national team 4 years earlier. I think the same could be said about the likes of Larry Fonacier, LA Tenorio, Jayson Perkins (though he never played with Gilas). There are really players who are late bloomers.
 
JAMSKIE said:
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I think there are players, in particular PBA players, who didn't have much impact during their early 20's but started to make noticeable impact when they reached 26, 27, 28 years old. Jeff Chan is a good example. He played for Gilas when he was already in his late 20's & he made good impact with Gilas during his stint. I don't think Chan would have made the same impact had he played for the national team 4 years earlier. I think the same could be said about the likes of Larry Fonacier, LA Tenorio, Jayson Perkins (though he never played with Gilas). There are really players who are late bloomers.
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26-28 is the start of a player's prime, and he approaches his peak, where he becomes more useful.

So really, it's up to the team to develop him to make an impact not just with the mother club, but in FIBA as well.
 
Rds said:
Although it is late I believe players can improve in the early to mid 20s. The best example is Kawhi Leonard. He graduated from college as an undersized PF with no 3 pt shot. While he always had his defense, he developed his shooting and handles to become the top two way player in the league. And probably around top 3 in the league at his peak. That means though it is ideal to develop players earlier, they can still significantly improve while in the PBA. The best example is Quinahan. He was an undersized center up to when Yeng got him. But gradually he developed his shooting and handles to be able to play SF at times.
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Kawhi was NBA finals MVP at 22. He is a really bad example.
 
IPC said:
26-28 is the start of a player's prime, and he approaches his peak, where he becomes more useful.

So really, it's up to the team to develop him to make an impact not just with the mother club, but in FIBA as well.
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There is a difference from when a players prime is to when a player first shows signs of being great/FIBA worthy. Especially in the NBA, by 24 you'll see signs of greatness like being an all star or being able to carry a team. There are players that started being great at like 26, but those are rare. In fact, in recent memory, I can only think of Kyle Lowry.
 
I feel bad for these kids. They didn't play that great this tournament, but they weren't given much of a chance by SBP's incompetence. I fear that they might be stuck here, and stagnate.

I may be overreacting, but that's what I fear.
 
IPC said:
I feel bad for these kids. They didn't play that great this tournament, but they weren't given much of a chance by SBP's incompetence. I fear that they might be stuck here, and stagnate.

I may be overreacting, but that's what I fear.
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Yup so true. No shot of succeeding considering what couldve been done. (Pay for Kai for example)
 
Sikatrix said:
Chot can stay but if he fails in 2023, I want everyone in SBP to resign.
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another coup should be in place again the same way SBP coup BAP. i don't care if FIBA suspends us because we need to overthrow these people in power (MVP, Panlilio, Vargas, RG, Josh and Chot)
 
ja.he said:
another coup should be in place again the same way SBP coup BAP. i don't care if FIBA suspends us because we need to overthrow these people in power (MVP, Panlilio, Vargas, RG, Josh and Chot)
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Im ok with a peaceful transition to SMC. Same problems but with a bigger budget.
 
Sikatrix said:
Im ok with a peaceful transition to SMC. Same problems but with a bigger budget.
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but questionable commitment with the national team. Danding (RIP) is no longer with us. it is Al Chua that is running the show now.
 
ja.he said:
but questionable commitment with the national team. Danding (RIP) is no longer with us. it is Al Chua that is running the show now.
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And would they take a tested coach, or would they be fine with a green coach, but shows promise?

Foreign coaches, under Eala, possible. But under Boss...
 
ja.he said:
but questionable commitment with the national team. Danding (RIP) is no longer with us. it is Al Chua that is running the show now.
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I think with SMC you are at least you get a real basketball guy and a proven williness to spend. Not much will change though other than better availability/NPs. Probably just Gilas prospects to UST/Letran. Then again I dont see anyone that wants the change I want. (Smooth/quick movement up and down a pyramid, focus on developing youth players with a focus on the NBA).
 
IPC said:
And would they take a tested coach, or would they be fine with a green coach, but shows promise?

Foreign coaches, under Eala, possible. But under Boss...
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Well, he doesn't like foreign coaches. They are "tactically immature", remember?
 
IPC said:
And would they take a tested coach, or would they be fine with a green coach, but shows promise?

Foreign coaches, under Eala, possible. But under Boss...
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Tim Cone is a foreign coach but I think SMC really wants LA to be their next great coach, an idea Im not against but you should surround him with assistants that are great in theory/developing plays.
 
Sikatrix said:
I think with SMC you are at least you get a real basketball guy and a proven williness to spend. Not much will change though other than better availability/NPs. Probably just Gilas prospects to UST/Letran. Then again I dont see anyone that wants the change I want. (Smooth/quick movement up and down a pyramid, focus on developing youth players with a focus on the NBA).
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I only hope that willingness to spend also includes helping sponsor Gilas talents when they develop abroad instead of getting them to Intramuros or España. Also sending coaches abroad, pitching them to Western coaches, whether in Asia, Europe. Invest in a grassroots too.
 
Haven't been commenting on the current issue because I would have nothing to say but negative things about it.

This is what they wanted. Now they must lie in it.

Tab was right.

But the backdoor agent, Kume, Mr. Puso, and the gang will never go away.

Not unless MVP and RSA stamp their foot down and say no more.
 
The Sad truth we can't do nothing about it, let's just hope and pray that when the time comes SMC take over SBP they will be successful and do the right things. after MVP they are only capable organization that can handle our NT budget and resourcess wise.
 
robert0326 said:
I'm OK with SMC running Gilas but not with Al Chua... I got feeling he will not prioritize Gilas and he will use it as his self interest....
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Then SMC shouldn't be running Gilas then,Chua is the face of SMC,what his interest is,also SMC's interest.
 
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