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IPC2
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If we can apply 1GDL status in B-League then he might have a chance to get a contract atleast Div.2 or Div.3 in B-League.. or MVP ask 1 of his teams to trade for Navarro... We need him long term.. It's hard to find a replacement for him after 2023.. Navarro might decrease his skills once he enter Northport.. Pido will use him a stretch 4 for sure.... Kawawang talent!!!
I think Navarro should enter into a one-year contract with NorthPort. After that one-year contract, he's free to go if he gets an overseas offer. Like I said, I don't think the PBA would mind if he leaves, unless he becomes a star for NorthPort.
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mathematicianrcg2
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I think Navarro should enter into a one-year contract with NorthPort. After that one-year contract, he's free to go if he gets an overseas offer. Like I said, I don't think the PBA would mind if he leaves, unless he becomes a star for NorthPort.
I think pba will mind. Because if they allowed navarro, parang pinayagan na rin nila the other prospects to go the same navarro route.
If Pba allows Navarro to do that (sign 1 year and leave overseas), and doesn't allow Baltazar(let's say for example) to do the same because
balti is a star for his pba team. Is that allowed?
Well it is pba anyway, they will make it allowd.lol. They will be criticized heavily though.
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thatweirdguy2
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Japeth Aguilar route will be only his last solution to force his way out of Northport and stay with Gilas program.. Japeth succeed that way before...
He'll get the Parks treatment..
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IPC2
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I think pba will mind. Because if they allowed navarro, parang pinayagan na rin nila the other prospects to go the same navarro route.
If Pba allows Navarro to do that (sign 1 year and leave overseas), and doesn't allow Baltazar(let's say for example) to do the same because
balti is a star for his pba team. Is that allowed?
Well it is pba anyway, they will make it allowd.lol. They will be criticized heavily though.
Yeah, it's a precedent, but only a bit
As for your scenario about Baltazar, that really shouldn't be allowed. The PBA board shouldn't really have a say in player-team relations except for discipline (fines, suspensions, bans) and enforcing EXISTING contracts.
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thatweirdguy2
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Atleast he can join again Gilas.. Maybe he can't play games in PBA but he will be available to play again for Gilas.. But let's see!!!
But that would cause friction between GILAS and the PBA which we do not want. Heck it might lead to a suspension from FIBA. But if he really wants to then he has to do it differently from what Parks did and through good communication qnd diplomacy
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IPC2
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I’m really curious to see how our current Gilas team would fare against PBA teams. I want to see if system, discipline, and sound fundamentals will make up for individual talent.
Local players only? Size is part of talent , when u have two 7 footers , two 6'8 Forwards, a 6 5 guard , that is talent . I would argue Gilas is more talented than any local PBA team, probably not as skilled or experience, but raw talent , they are actually more talented
Bold claim. While I believe this Gilas team has the potential to surpass Gilas 2.0, to say that the raw talent exceeds that of any PBA team (including ineligibles) right now, that's bold. I hope it's true, though. It will make me (and the rest of us) really high on this team's chances in the international level.
I hope this team stays together, acquires more talents, or maybe even both.
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IPC2
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HAHAHA!
PBA becoming a retirement league. Calling it.
I hope our best prospects play in the PBA only after they hit a certain age, say 32-35. Basically when they pass their prime. They'd pass down invaluable knowledge from what they'd learned from overseas leagues. That may improve the quality of play, and also the tactics and player development, both of which frankly could use improvement. Plus, if they can still carry over an improved level of play, wow. That may improve the quality here.
Plus, no need to concern ourselves about their availability for Gilas. Past their prime na nga, e.
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IPC2
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Problem with Phi basketball is that the stakeholders are not on the same page. Far from that. Kung si Tab Baldwin & his Gilas program are on page 90, yung PBA nasa page 47 pa lang while the NCAA is on page 39.
Yung problema pa eh, PBA & NCAA aren't willing to catch-up.
I think the only institutions that are some sort of being on the same page with coach Tab & the Gilas program are Ateneo, UP & perhaps FEU.
Exactly, the stakeholders aren't the most cooperative in the development of Philippine basketball. Especially after Tab's 'tactically immature' comment. Pero even before, they'd been looking after their own self-interest, e. Even MVP, to an extent. Problem is, 'yun na nga, with a few exceptions, they cannot or worse refuse to make the necessary adjustments, even as the world of basketball is changing. Winning ang goal, hindi development.
Plus, as for the schools, they have nothing to fear from Tab. Tab has all the talent he needs in Ateneo (Ramos brothers, Ong, Ildefonso, Belangel, Padrigao, Lazaro), so piracy should not be an issue. In fact, I'd be more worried about pirating by UP and La Salle.
As for UP, well, maganda ang size, and it somewhat helps that Perasol uses a 4-out system, so his 4s need to be able to play the perimeter, no matter what size. That kind of environment will help in producing taller forwards (if the UP development team, if there is one at all, focuses on that). I hope Lina and Miguel Tan will benefit from playing the 4 in UP's 4-out system. And at least they're willing to release their players during the UAAP offseason.
Personally, I'd also think Beda are cooperative. At least Gilas got Oftana and Cariño to join.
Hopefully other schools (and PBA teams) can see what Tab is building and can more readily lend their players. It will help greatly in their players' development, and it would do the school and team proud to see themselves represented in Gilas. For example, UP's taking pride in being represented through Javi, Tungcab, and Tamayo. Sana makita nila ang value doon.
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Labradoodle2
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I think the PBA and UAAP/NCAA should be generous to the national team. Why? If the NT team becomes very successful in the world stage, they will bring those experiences back to their teams; hence improving the quality of not only their teams but PH basketball in the long run
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TheRodster212
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I think the PBA and UAAP/NCAA should be generous to the national team. Why? If the NT team becomes very successful in the world stage, they will bring those experiences back to their teams; hence improving the quality of not only their teams but PH basketball in the long run
I agree, the success of the national team is the success of the pba, more people pay attention to Gilas than they do pba. It’s probably why they’ve wanted to insert pba players into the lineup as much as possible.
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IPC2
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Snow rumor: https://twitter.com/snowbadua/status/1409087657053806596
"Kuliglig told me that majority of Gilas Pilipinas players are being eyed by Japan B. League teams."
"Kuliglig told me that majority of Gilas Pilipinas players are being eyed by Japan B. League teams."
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JAMSKIE2
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Expect the PBA, with the sulsul of Long Hair, to enforce the anti-dodging rule
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JAMSKIE2
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I wonder how FIBA would view this anti-dodging rule by the PBA, specially if there's someone with credibility explaining to FIBA what has been going on in the PBA in the last 10 years or so - lop sided trades favoring the strong teams, hoarding of players by SMC teams, SMC not lending its players for the national team?
We know that what the PBA has been doing is counter productive to the advocacy of FIBA.
We know that what the PBA has been doing is counter productive to the advocacy of FIBA.
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judasmartel2
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I wonder how FIBA would view this anti-dodging rule by the PBA, specially if there's someone with credibility explaining to FIBA what has been going on in the PBA in the last 10 years or so - lop sided trades favoring the strong teams, hoarding of players by SMC teams, SMC not lending its players for the national team?
We know that what the PBA has been doing is counter productive to the advocacy of FIBA.
Oh dear, ban hammer incoming, and we might lose the rights to host the 2023 WC on top of that.
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judasmartel2
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Snow rumor: https://twitter.com/snowbadua/status/1409087657053806596
"Kuliglig told me that majority of Gilas Pilipinas players are being eyed by Japan B. League teams."
Snow Badua, from bad guy to hero in just 7 years. What kind of timeline is this?
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Labradoodle2
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If Snow's chismis is true, this is headache for the PBA..basketball brain drain.
Can't blame them. Because if you go to the PBA, thenPBA pretty much owns you. The PBA sees Filipino cagers as chattels
Edit: I just checked Snow's tweets and his chismis Japan is eyeing most of Gilas. (Presumably, non-draftees)?
Can't blame them. Because if you go to the PBA, thenPBA pretty much owns you. The PBA sees Filipino cagers as chattels
Edit: I just checked Snow's tweets and his chismis Japan is eyeing most of Gilas. (Presumably, non-draftees)?
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IPC2
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What I want to see from PBA players reinforcing Gilas is the commitment to train with Gilas for a considerable period of time on a "consistent basis". Baka kasi players A, B, C, would commit to train & play for Gilas for a particular tournament or window qualifier, then in the next tournament or window eh hindi na sila available or would beg off, so si players D, E, F na naman ang magti train & play for Gilas. This is a sure way of messing up Gilas' chemistry/cohesion.
If this is what our good PBA people have in mind then coach Tab should tell the PBA to just forget it (the idea of PBA players reinforcing Gilas). If PBA players are to reinforce Gilas, then the set-up should be according to coach Tab's (& his entire coach staffs') terms & not on anyone's terms.
I totally agree. Chemistry is important when you're trying to implement a system on both ends. I don't think we would have the performance we had on both ends against SoKor if we didn't have enough chemistry. Our guys wouldn't know where to rotate, or where to position themselves on offense, or when and to whom to pass.
This is why I'm advocating for the PBA to either pause the season or release the called-up players at least 60-70 days before a FIBA tournament proper, or at least 14-20 days before a FIBA window.
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barok espinoza2
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Snow Badua, from bad guy to hero in just 7 years. What kind of timeline is this?
definitely, not the darkest timeline.
seriously, if the PBA wants to keep the best collegiate players in its uterus, it should fill it with money and conscionable contracts. with the advent of the generation of miracles came huge opportunities. it isn't budget daycare anymore.
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JAMSKIE2
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I totally agree. Chemistry is important when you're trying to implement a system on both ends. I don't think we would have the performance we had on both ends against SoKor if we didn't have enough chemistry. Our guys wouldn't know where to rotate, or where to position themselves on offense, or when and to whom to pass.
This is why I'm advocating for the PBA to either pause the season or release the called-up players at least 60-70 days before a FIBA tournament proper, or at least 14-20 days before a FIBA window.
Yup bro.
This is to demonstrate the importance of familiarity with the coach' system & cohesion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFeSm3DO1qE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF30I030Mro
There's no way a team with 2-week preparation which starts from scratch would be able to play/operate like this. This illustrates the value of familiarity with the system as well as how important smart/clever or players with high understand of the game are.