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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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Dotch said:
^^ That's what i thought too. Maybe the golden goose has laid its final egg and MVP's pocket is not limitless.... and as chairman of a very large conglomerate, his priorities are to please Metro Pacific's board of directors and the stockholders, and not the SBP.

So that maybe that's the reason.
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just connecting the dots also, this maybe the reason why they are having difficulties keeping Mikey, Kiefer and the Ateneo boys like Dwight and SJ..and the best course of action the MVP group could do would be to ban them from playing in the country unlike their rival SMC who barely has any issue regarding poaching since they are willing to overspend. I guess the pandemic hit the MPIC businesses hard and they need to conserve their resources for now
 
If that's case I'm hoping MVP Can still keep his 3 PBA teams...i can't imagine PBA without them literally SMC league na yun as much we hate PBA we still need them.
 
CoJ said:
just connecting the dots also, this maybe the reason why they are having difficulties keeping Mikey, Kiefer and the Ateneo boys like Dwight and SJ..and the best course of action the MVP group could do would be to ban them from playing in the country unlike their rival SMC who barely has any issue regarding poaching since they are willing to overspend. I guess the pandemic hit the MPIC businesses hard and they need to conserve their resources for now
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UST will be crazy to reject Alfrancis and his proposal take over its basketball program now. It may not be SMC per se, but it is by virtue of association. UST under quasi-SMC will challenge MVP's last grasp on basketball domination, its own holy grail : college basketball with Ateneo
 
GoPilipinas said:
If that's case I'm hoping MVP Can still keep his 3 PBA teams...i can't imagine PBA without them literally SMC league na yun as much we hate PBA we still need them.
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Contraction is the solution if money is tight. They can merge their 3 teams to at most, 2. Or just a Super Team of 1... like the TNT olden days of Jimmy A + Taulava + Carrey
 
Dotch said:
^^ That's what i thought too. Maybe the golden goose has laid its final egg and MVP's pocket is not limitless.... and as chairman of a very large conglomerate, his priorities are to please Metro Pacific's board of directors and the stockholders, and not the SBP.

So that maybe that's the reason.
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This would make sense. SMC is probably hit hard too. But since it is a real Filipino company, not just Filipino fronted, it has more leeway to keep on pleasing its Filipino fans.
 
CoJ said:
just connecting the dots also, this maybe the reason why they are having difficulties keeping Mikey, Kiefer and the Ateneo boys like Dwight and SJ..and the best course of action the MVP group could do would be to ban them from playing in the country unlike their rival SMC who barely has any issue regarding poaching since they are willing to overspend. I guess the pandemic hit the MPIC businesses hard and they need to conserve their resources for now
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Abando apparently turned down a Korean offer. Goes to show these guys are well taken care of.

As for MVP resigning, I guess I’d cross the bridge when I get there. For all we know, these could be another one of Snow’s kuryente rumors.
 
Dotch said:
UST will be crazy to reject Alfrancis and his proposal take over its basketball program now. It may not be SMC per se, but it is by virtue of association. UST under quasi-SMC will challenge MVP's last grasp on basketball domination, its own holy grail : college basketball with Ateneo
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UST (and Letran) might become the breeding ground/nursery school/farm for Gilas prospects once SMC fully takes over SBP similar to what MVP/Tab has done with Ateneo and Danding to DLSU during the 80s. So true, the Dominicans would be crazy not to accept this offer.

It sad to see the downfall of MVP,, but empires come and go, MVP being on the bad side of the outgoing admin could have also affected the financial standing of the MPIC which led to this scenario. Plus the passage of the Public Services Act which opens up the market will eventually challenge MVP/MPIC's stronghold on the telecom industry. As GoPilipinas had mentioned I hope MVP will still maintain their 3 teams in the PBA as it balances the SMC monopoly. But I have a feeling that the MVP bloc is operating on a tight budget, they cant even lock Mikey Williams, while SMC./Northport didnt break a sweat with Bolick

edit: I hope Snow's kuryente lang as Noinu stated, we need MVP to counter SMC's greed
 
robert0326 said:
In the end they will put Leo Austria as Gilas coach!!!! hahahahahahaha... He had 8 championships at SMB then baka it will translate sa FIBA... hahahahahahahaha!!!! seriously, I have no issues if SMC will take over but as we talk about here, Can Long Hair accepts that foreign coach can do wonders for Gilas? Can he develop FIBA size/fit players? Can he find perfect fit for our NP? and lastly, Can he sacrifice his 3 teams for FIBA tournaments? You know LH's top priority is to dominate PBA first... Another problem is who among SMC players (below 30's) are fit to play in FIBA and eligible to play (Sans Junmar)? Because it's only Scottie, Perez, TR7 are only fit to play for Gilas eh.. Most of their players are ineligible to play as locals while others are too old to play (Japeth, LA, Lassiter, Arwind)...
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It’s becoming more and more doubtful that we will be a top 4 team in FIBA Asia at the very least post-WC 2023. From the way things are developing, the SBP is content with the revenue the Gilas program is bringing forth. They do not care about grassroots development or forming a strong national team.

Just look at their strategy from the U16 onwards: recruit fil-foreigners and rely on talent to win.

Bullshit. I cannot take this team seriously. Fucking glad I didn’t buy any WC tickets.
 
robert0326 said:
We can still a top 4 team in Asia... But it will depend on Kai already... We will be on "Asa kay Kai" mode in next 10 - 15 years.... Because Kai will be projected as the best big man in Asia - Pacific in next 5 years...
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Then ask him to sacrifice for the nation,stop his personal dreams that could take him out of SBP.
 
robert0326 said:
Nah!!!! Kai has personal dream... As i said, he is more important in Gilas program rather than others, even coach Tab...
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It's sad that Kai's image will be milked by the SBP for years to come.

Remember what happened to Yao Ming? No breaks in basketball from the NBA to the Olympics. Cut his career short on what could have been. I wish this won't happen to Kai but as it goes, if Kai can have the cojones to defy Ignite (which tbf helped him out a lot, they destroyed his jumper) then Kai "can" (because we don't know how much of Kai's decision to play for the country is influenced by $$$utang na loob$$$) play for Gilas indefinitely.
 
ARMIR said:
Then ask him to sacrifice for the nation,stop his personal dreams that could take him out of SBP.
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Lmao. As if we are important people to be listened too.

But anyway, I think Kai will both play in nba and for gilas naman. No need to choose.

Like Hachimura is doing now.

But ofc, Kai will be unavailable in some tournaments.
 
Hmm.. hoping and praying we pull something off with a Kai on the 30th... as they say we won't know unless we try.
 
Im praying for ange for full recovery and quick. But i have a strange suggestion. If Blatche is not in good shape, why dont we pick Douhit, even if he is at 40 he is still active and well conditioned.
 
IPC said:
If true, oh my goodness. It makes me a little nervous. SMC have a lot to prove in my eyes.

1. Can they focus on developing players for the international game?
2. Are they willing to hire foreign coaches bar Tim Cone? To aid our local coaches on how to perform internationally?
3. Are they willing to bet on a long-term program for Gilas, starting from the youth program up?
4. Are they willing to adjust tactically for the international game?
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I'm not in favor of SMC , they are more archaic and protectionism minded when it comes to international basketball and they hate foreign coach for national team and don't like contructive criticism just like what happened to Coach Tab when he was lambasted by Chua. SMC coaches and staffs systems works well in PBA setting but not on FIBA games which is more complicated. We will be back to dark age of basketball of its SMC. SMC does not have good credentials in fiba games lately, all teams handled smc in the past are not succesful on fiba competition except for NCC. Let it just be a non SMC or mvp team to handle the gilas for a change. Maybe chooks to go or Robinson or SM.
 
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Cabaggie has built a vast network in the US that can supply fil-ams (boys and girls) to universities, and not just in basketball. Surely, he and LH will have some sort of relationship when it comes to scouting pinoy talents abroad
 
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