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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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thatweirdguy said:
Hahaha. Lucky B@stard.
I wonder how the meeting goes? I hope it isn't about players leaving for foreign leagues..
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probably thats one of the topics. Chua previously said Gilas can borrow their ball boys and coaches. so we'll see. i'm not excited, i actually feel this is just another way to market PBA somehow rather than actually helping Filipino basketball.
 
Sikatrix said:
The PBA doesn't need "saving" but they have to accept that in the future they wont be able to keep top talent especially once the top leagues in the world are involved. The UAAP hopefully learns this lesson too.
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Essentially there is no successful model in the world (not named US or Spain) where the top players from college onwards remain in the country full time . (none) . this is not unique to basketball but any industry actually.
 
JAMSKIE said:
A sprinkle of positive development:

https://www.spin.ph/multisport/news...220614-news-you-need-to-know-gilas-jo-izfirst
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Thank goodness for the Goldwin hire. Helped UP to our championship last May, beat Tab's Ateneo no less. The players were quite disciplined too (bar a few Ricci Rivero boneheaded shots), especially on defense. We blitzed PnRs often under him, and rotated hard. Offense, moved the ball, but we often looked to score in transition.

Hopefully he can learn under Nenad, and pass what he learned to the UP coaching staff. Seemed like a smart guy, as he was able to identify what was lacking in UP over the course of the season.
 
IPC said:
Thank goodness for the Goldwin hire. Helped UP to our championship last May, beat Tab's Ateneo no less. The players were quite disciplined too (bar a few Ricci Rivero boneheaded shots), especially on defense. We blitzed PnRs often under him, and rotated hard. Offense, moved the ball, but we often looked to score in transition.

Hopefully he can learn under Nenad, and pass what he learned to the UP coaching staff. Seemed like a smart guy, as he was able to identify what was lacking in UP over the course of the season.
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Not so sure about Golds offensive sets. Does his offense work without Cagu orchestrating it? But his defense and rotation is top notch. His handling of Carl has been good since HS. He maximizes Carl in offense and tries to minimize his defensive deficiency.
 
Rds said:
Not so sure about Golds offensive sets. Does his offense work without Cagu orchestrating it? But his defense and rotation is top notch. His handling of Carl has been good since HS. He maximizes Carl in offense and tries to minimize his defensive deficiency.
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Oh, yeah, the Cagulangan factor. And the offense drops significantly without him orchestrating and calling the plays.

Honestly, yeah, he looks more defensive than offensive at this point, and it showed against Ateneo. Struggled on offense, but made life difficult on D.

As to Carl, I like that he's still allowed to handle the ball amd take it to the basket. He's blitzing and hedging PnR coverages too.
 
IPC said:
Oh, yeah, the Cagulangan factor. And the offense drops significantly without him orchestrating and calling the plays.

Honestly, yeah, he looks more defensive than offensive at this point, and it showed against Ateneo. Struggled on offense, but made life difficult on D.

As to Carl, I like that he's still allowed to handle the ball amd take it to the basket. He's blitzing and hedging PnR coverages too.
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Ball handling has been on of Tamayo's upside. I mean his handles is exceptional for a big man. Such upside Tamayo has exhibited as far back as 4 years ago when he played for the Gilas cadets in the 2018 Fil-oil Flying V Preseason Cup. I remember Tamayo holding his own against the country's top collegiate players. I think he was only 17 at that time.

When I saw Tamayo's good ball handling & some shooting in that tournament, I thought to myself this kid is going somewhere. Sa murang edad na 17 eh kaya na nyang makipagsabayan sa mga magagaling na college players in which some of whom were 5 to 6 years older than him.
 
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JAMSKIE said:
Ball handling has been on of Tamayo's upside. I mean his handles is exceptional for a big man. Such upside Tamayo has exhibited as far back as 4 years ago when he played for the Gilas cadets in the 2018 Fil-oil Flying V Preseason Cup. I remember Tamayo holding his own against the countries top collegiate players. I think he was only 17 at that time.

When I saw Tamayo's good ball handling & some shooting in that tournament, I thought to myself this kid is going somewhere. Sa murang edad na 17 eh kaya na nyang makipagsabayan sa mga magagaling na college players in which some of whom were 5 to 6 years older than him.
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This skills, along with toughness, shooting, and surprisingly good post defense, will make him indispensable to the national team for years to come. He's one of my non-negotiables for the 2023 roster.
 
sajubeads said:
Come on bro...Wakeup....Isnt it just coincidence that ChitbReyes is the HC of Gilas and that his Son isnthe HC of Batabg Gilas....And that Montalbo, Pogoy and Rosario make the final 12 of Gilas despite being a tital scrubs internationally....
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Hey, we might need Montalbo, Pogoy, and Troy if we only have 9 more available players so as to avoid forfeiting the games. Hahahahahahahaha.
 
IPC said:
Hey, we might need Montalbo, Pogoy, and Troy if we only have 9 more available players so as to avoid forfeiting the games. Hahahahahahahaha.
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I think realistic Pool for 2023 ( Meaning No Doubtful due to issues like Parks and Greg)

NON PBA:

Kai, AJ, Dwight, Baltazar, Tamayo, Thirdy, Heading, Dave, Quiambao, Abando, Kouame/JC/NP

PBA:

Nlex: Kiefer(Alas if Kief is in Non Pba), Oftana
Ginebra: Scottie, Japeth
San Muguel: Junmar, Perez
TNT: Pogoy, Troy, Erram
Phx: Wright
Northport: Bolick
 
mathematicianrcg said:
I think realistic Pool for 2023 ( Meaning No Doubtful due to issues like Parks and Greg)

NON PBA:

Kai, AJ, Dwight, Baltazar, Tamayo, Thirdy, Heading, Dave, Quiambao, Abando, Kouame/JC/NP

PBA:

Nlex: Kiefer(Alas if Kief is in Non Pba), Oftana
Ginebra: Scottie, Japeth
San Muguel: Junmar, Perez
TNT: Pogoy, Troy, Erram
Phx: Wright
Northport: Bolick
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I say if these PBA & SBP people would still consider lolo Japeth Aguilar for the 2023 World Cup, then they are having a unilateral wet dream.

How on God's green earth could this PBA & SBP people consider a 36-years old Japeth Aguilar (he would be 36 next year) for next year's FIBA World Cup bound Gilas pool? Its not like Japeth was among the good performers of Gilas in the 2019 World Cup. I remember Japeth missing 2 totok na mga tira in that game vs. Angola & to think we lost via close game.

Come on, let's move on! Let's give that slot sa mga bata.
 
JAMSKIE said:
I say if these PBA & SBP people would still consider lolo Japeth Aguilar for the 2023 World Cup, then they are having a unilateral wet dream.

How on God's green earth could this PBA & SBP people consider a 36-years old Japeth Aguilar (he would be 36 next year) for next year's FIBA World Cup bound Gilas pool? Its not like Japeth was among the good performers of Gilas in the 2019 World Cup. I remember Japeth missing 2 totok na mga tira in that game vs. Angola & to think we lost via close game.

Come on, let's move on! Let's give that slot sa mga bata.
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Thats how shallow our bigs pool we still salivate japeth blocks shots and not counting how many inside points he will allow because he cant defend bigs outside weakside D hahhaa
 
CoJ said:
Wouldnt be surprised if AJ Raval, BGSM's current muse, will be Long Hair's next side chick. To be fair, young Alfrancis is good looking
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I think he is a good people person. He was an underwhelming coach. But I guess he maximized his other skills in his current role.
 
JAMSKIE said:
Ball handling has been on of Tamayo's upside. I mean his handles is exceptional for a big man. Such upside Tamayo has exhibited as far back as 4 years ago when he played for the Gilas cadets in the 2018 Fil-oil Flying V Preseason Cup. I remember Tamayo holding his own against the country's top collegiate players. I think he was only 17 at that time.

When I saw Tamayo's good ball handling & some shooting in that tournament, I thought to myself this kid is going somewhere. Sa murang edad na 17 eh kaya na nyang makipagsabayan sa mga magagaling na college players in which some of whom were 5 to 6 years older than him.
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You cant underestimate exposure at a young age. Carl could have focused on post plays knowing he will be among the biggest guys locally but playing internationally might have encouraged him to develop his faceup game.
 
Rds said:
I think he is a good people person. He was an underwhelming coach. But I guess he maximized his other skills in his current role.
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True, as a coach he underachieved despite having a loaded Tanduay team in the late 90s-early 2000s, up to this day still have no idea how Alfrancis was able to climb his way on top of the SMC food chain. He gets things done despite being cunning/manipulative. He's like the local eric bischoff of vince mcmahon
 
Guys, if for instance Jaime Malonzo happens to be a FIBA eligible Pinoy player, how serviceable do U think he is for Gilas? He struggled in his first few games with Northport last year but has been doing well since then. He could be a perfect combo forward for Gilas. I think offensively, he's better than either a prime Kelly Williams or Gabe Norwood, although defensively Norwood & Kelly are better than Malonzo.
 
reamily said:
Thats how shallow our bigs pool we still salivate japeth blocks shots and not counting how many inside points he will allow because he cant defend bigs outside weakside D hahhaa
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Hahaha.

Kai and AJ (Hopefully healthy) should be our Main Bigs. Idc if they will be 21 and 23 yrs old only next year.

Tamayo and Baltazar should be the Main forwards. Even if they will be only 22 and 26 yrs old respectively next year
 
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