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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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Silent Killer said:
MVP owns baltazar now?

it’s baltazar decision but who in the world MVP will do that if baltazar wants to play outside the country? and look b-league is booming right now with the good offer, pineda will encourage balty to play abroad.. it’s good for his development and exposure of playing players in his position..

theirs some good ineligible fil-ams around to choose from if they end up as no, 1 pick..

of course in the future they will play in PBA but not in the future and it’s not necessary now.. while young, go explore and play outside.. balty will earn 2x more than the max offer of PBA. who says no on that?

want PBA as the first option for all young prospects? make improvements from everything but i doubt that will happen..
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Baltazar is a Delta kid. Does MVP have any Delta kids?
 
Silent Killer said:
no you don’t get it..

like i said, they’re players who are made for PBA and they’re players who are made outside overseas. no need to special draft this players and have 2 contracts. that’s no way that will happen..

let them play outside the country longer than 2023 without joining the PBA draft and special draft... PBA is not the only league in the world.

the more players we have playing outside RP will improve the quality of our NT.. for sure they will put gilas clause on their contract the same as thirdy
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What I like about this idea is that the top pro leagues like that of Japan, Korea, China, New Zealand, Australia & even the ASEAN Basketball League are FIBA & national team-friendly pro leagues. Which means that these pro leagues are in their off-season during the months of June, July, August & September which is the period FIBA tournaments & other international/invitational tournaments like the Jones Cup & Merlion Cup are held.

Then these leagues also take a brief break (usually around 2 weeks) to give way to their National teams' participation in the window qualifiers of World Cup & Asia Cup. The B-league, KBL, CBA & NBL Australia as well as those premier pro leagues in the Middle East are doing this.

These things are something that PBA cannot offer our National team players or PBA would be hard pressed to do so.

With this, I'm thinking of this kind of set-up in which these Gilas players (that hopefully will play in foreign pro leagues) like Thirdy, Kobe Paras, Kai Sotto, AJ Edu, GDL brothers, Dave Ildefonso, Ange Kouame, RJ Abarrientos, SJ Belangel, get to train for at least 2 months during the June to September period each year - a period when all the top pro leagues except the PBA are in the off-season. In this way, our Gilas team/pool could establish enough cohesion & are well assimilated to coach Tab's system.

Ito yung ginagawa ng teams like Japan, China, Korea, Iran, Jordan, etc., that is why even if these teams are given just a 10-day preparation period prior to a certain window, cohesive pa rin yung team & players are well assimilated with the system.
 
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Ito lang talaga yung nakikita kong solution sa problema natin with Gilas.


Then here comes the PBA with its anti-dodging rule. Hayyyyys! Please somebody tell me why we should not label the PBA as a hazard to Philippine basketball.
 
robert0326 said:
The question Baltazar will try? Remember Calvin Oftana.. He was offered to play overseas but what happened? And MVP knows politics.. He doesn't want to be like Gilas 1 scenario.. Let's see muna next year what will Baltazar next move, And hope for BWE to get that 1st pick for some security, Pinipilit mo pa ineligibles eh di naman yan mapapakinabangan sa Gilas.. But still we still agree that PBA is the cancer and they should let out to be a SMC player.. or else!!! Bye Bye Gilas!!!
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Would BW pass on or MVP pass on let's say remy martin or stephen holt?
 
magic_chiongson said:
is baltazar already better than someone like sangalang?
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He has the potential to be better than Ian. Let's see if he can become successful against PBA Big men. Balthazar been a dominant big man in the UAAP and NBL Philippines
 
robert0326 said:
Yes.. Especially if Baltazar will join.. Big man is still top priority for PBA teams.. And MVP teams will take that opportunity to get Baltazar first over that the likes of Martin or Holt.. Anyway TNT has Mikey Williams, NLEX still has Kiefer while Meralco still has Newsome (I don't care in BWE as they are farm team only).. So they don't need that another guard
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They’re crazy if they don’t pick Remy Martin.. MVP won’t probably miss to draft a jayson castro steroids version.. And their you go, MVP can put remy or holt to meralco. And newsome is not a PG.. problem solve for them.. IF ever they can get balty in special draft IF theirs a special draft. It will be a good problem to have for MVP if they draft remy or holt quality..
 
PaulLee3 said:
He has the potential to be better than Ian. Let's see if he can become successful against PBA Big men. Balthazar been a dominant big man in the UAAP and NBL Philippines
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Ian is just 6'5. Baltazar is reportedly in the 6'7 , 6'8 range and very mobile. But let's see if his game will translate
 
thatweirdguy said:
Ian is just 6'5. Baltazar is reportedly in the 6'7 , 6'8 range and very mobile. But let's see if his game will translate
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Ian actually doesn't have a good performance in his national stints.

I hope Baltazar will be good in Fiba.
 
mathematicianrcg said:
Ian actually doesn't have a good performance in his national stints.

I hope Baltazar will be good in Fiba.
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What really turns me off from Ian is his attitude. He's not really committed to our and plays like a bully inside the court
 
JAMSKIE said:
What I like about this idea is that the top pro leagues like that of Japan, Korea, China, New Zealand, Australia & even the ASEAN Basketball League are FIBA & national team-friendly pro leagues. Which means that these pro leagues are in their off-season during the months of June, July, August & September which is the period FIBA tournaments & other international/invitational tournaments like the Jones Cup & Merlion Cup are held.

Then these leagues also take a brief break (usually around 2 weeks) to give way to their National teams' participation in the window qualifiers of World Cup & Asia Cup. The B-league, KBL, CBA & NBL Australia as well as those premier pro leagues in the Middle East are doing this.

These things are something that PBA cannot offer our National team players or PBA would be hard pressed to do so.

With this, I'm thinking of this kind of set-up in which these Gilas players (that hopefully will play in foreign pro leagues) like Thirdy, Kobe Paras, Kai Sotto, AJ Edu, GDL brothers, Dave Ildefonso, Ange Kouame, RJ Abarrientos, SJ Belangel, get to train for at least 2 months during the June to September period each year - a period when all the top pro leagues except the PBA are in the off-season. In this way, our Gilas team/pool could establish enough cohesion & are well assimilated to coach Tab's system.

Ito yung ginagawa ng teams like Japan, China, Korea, Iran, Jordan, etc., that is why even if these teams are given just a 10-day preparation period prior to a certain window, cohesive pa rin yung team & players are well assimilated with the system.
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Most of those countries have 4 seasons,so summer to fall is an off season,while a country like the Philippines its freaking summer all year long with an occasional disruption by typhoons, so pretty much can play basketball 10 months out of a year.
 
robert0326 said:
No no.. they can wait for Remy Martin in free agency anytime.. CTC does always picks potential big man than best guards... Every PBA coach will go for skilled big man like Baltazar than skilled guards.. Even Tab Baldwin will go for Baltazar rather than Martin or Holt if these three will go on the same draft...
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So you're saying that Martin won't be picked in the PBA draft?

Ginebra's guard rotation is aging. Pringle and LA are on their mid 30's. also for marketing purposes they might choose someone like him. who the hell in this world would pass on someone like him?
 
JAMSKIE said:
What I like about this idea is that the top pro leagues like that of Japan, Korea, China, New Zealand, Australia & even the ASEAN Basketball League are FIBA & national team-friendly pro leagues. Which means that these pro leagues are in their off-season during the months of June, July, August & September which is the period FIBA tournaments & other international/invitational tournaments like the Jones Cup & Merlion Cup are held.

Then these leagues also take a brief break (usually around 2 weeks) to give way to their National teams' participation in the window qualifiers of World Cup & Asia Cup. The B-league, KBL, CBA & NBL Australia as well as those premier pro leagues in the Middle East are doing this.

These things are something that PBA cannot offer our National team players or PBA would be hard pressed to do so.

With this, I'm thinking of this kind of set-up in which these Gilas players (that hopefully will play in foreign pro leagues) like Thirdy, Kobe Paras, Kai Sotto, AJ Edu, GDL brothers, Dave Ildefonso, Ange Kouame, RJ Abarrientos, SJ Belangel, get to train for at least 2 months during the June to September period each year - a period when all the top pro leagues except the PBA are in the off-season. In this way, our Gilas team/pool could establish enough cohesion & are well assimilated to coach Tab's system.

Ito yung ginagawa ng teams like Japan, China, Korea, Iran, Jordan, etc., that is why even if these teams are given just a 10-day preparation period prior to a certain window, cohesive pa rin yung team & players are well assimilated with the system.
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If were PBA, in a normal setting, since they really don't want to shorten their 10-month season but at the same time has the absolute desire to participate in Gilas/FIBA games, gagayahin ko na lang yung schedule format na ipinatutupad ng FIFA with various European leagues during international breaks. Only difference is, instead of an August to late-May or June fiscal season if there is WC/Euro Cup, they'll adopt the September-to-July fiscal season. That way, they can freely implement 2-week breaks every FIBA World/Asia Cup qualifying tournament window (usually every November, February, June and August), where every PBA team can lend at least 1 of their stars to SBP/Gilas.

At this point, let's all just forget about PBA having a solid 3 to 4 months offseason because it's just never gonna happen.
 
robert0326 said:
Mapipick syempre.. But not 1st overall pick... We all know that skilled big man is always a top priority of all PBA teams.. Kaya if ever Baltazar, MArtin or Holt will join together then Baltazar will be the 1st pick... Rare sa PBA ang skilled big man..
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they can still get both of them. balty in special drat. and pick martin in normal drafr..
 
robert0326 said:
Is Remy Martin will join PBA? I think it's too early for him for now to join.. He can get Euroleague contract if ever he can't make it to the NBA...
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i just cite an example on martin and observe or asked about who will mvp pick..
 
DAdmiral said:
Gilas 23 five

Kouame
kai
Dwight
Thridy
Kiefer

6th Man JC
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Hmmm. JC as Sixth Man? For Scoring off the bench?

Your Starting 5 all came from ateneo. But actually, it makes sense.

I will just switch JC and Thirdy to have more scoring/shooting
 
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