Philippines Cadet/Developmental Team

[tito thoots2]

Kidding aside as well, one of the suspected areas where you can look at is from which countries do clinents of Filipino mail order prides come from ? , basically where are the biggest markets ? Additionally and I don’t mean to demean or endorse this practice, who are foreign clients of prostitution ? That’s where you will see a lot of children from mix race parents. Unforntnatlly African nations are not a big market for this

When you Allude to the practice of prostitution just to get ahead in basketball- it both endorses the practice and demeans the sport. I do not believe I am hearing this from you, my friend. You are far better than this. I will have to call you out on this one as it corrupts the very core of amateurism in sport. We want to get ahead in basketball but not at the cost of our moral values. I am taking the moral high road, I suggest you cease and desist this manner of thought. To Nardy, I hope that we have not gotten as far as endorsing this practice at home. If not, It will come down on us like a ton of bricks, I love the country but I love God more...

 

[nardy2]

When you Allude to the practice of prostitution just to get ahead in basketball- it both endorses the practice and demeans the sport. I do not believe I am hearing this from you, my friend. You are far better than this. I will have to call you out on this one as it corrupts the very core of amateurism in sport. We want to get ahead in basketball but not at the cost of our moral values. I am taking the moral high road, I suggest you cease and desist this manner of thought. To Nardy, I hope that we have not gotten as far as endorsing this practice at home. If not, It will come down on us like a ton of bricks, I love the country but I love God more...

You know me Thoots .... I do not go for winning at all costs, thats why I am just stating the proper and legal ways to do it. Even if the process would make it a long time for us to achieve success then so be it. As I said it in the past kung talu e di talu basta lumaban tayu ng patas. Anyway I do not see SBP going that path.

 

[insulares2]

Kidding aside as well, one of the suspected areas where you can look at is from which countries do clinents of Filipino mail order prides come from ? , basically where are the biggest markets ? Additionally and I don’t mean to demean or endorse this practice, who are foreign clients of prostitution ? That’s where you will see a lot of children from mix race parents. Unforntnatlly African nations are not a big market for this

I guess the males can laugh if you were kidding, right?

But since you're "kidding aside", then I'd consider this post both misogynistic and obnoxious.

Spelling isn't the worst part of this post. The message is.

 

[Alex072]

adopting Babies are a possibility, How about Marcus adopting a couple of african kids? lol

 

[analyzed2]

When you Allude to the practice of prostitution just to get ahead in basketball- it both endorses the practice and demeans the sport. I do not believe I am hearing this from you, my friend. You are far better than this. I will have to call you out on this one as it corrupts the very core of amateurism in sport. We want to get ahead in basketball but not at the cost of our moral values. I am taking the moral high road, I suggest you cease and desist this manner of thought. To Nardy, I hope that we have not gotten as far as endorsing this practice at home. If not, It will come down on us like a ton of bricks, I love the country but I love God more...

My apologies , that did not come across well. The intent was not to suggest that we use prostitution or any practice to get ahead. but to identify where children from mix race parents come from. If you noticed Jason Castro and Abueva both came from communities where former American Bases are located. We all know they’ve had tough lives with separated parents. While I’m not concluding that their parents didn’t have a normal husband and wife relationship, it would be naïve however not to be aware of the activities near US naval bases.
During my time here in NZ, I’ve met very commendable Filipinas , who just so happened to migrate by meeting their spouse through the “mail order pride” industry. Again I’m not condoning this activity at all. But what I’ve found out is , they are a source of identifying Filipinos with Philippine roots. And a lot of times these Filipinos, because of the nature of their background are not easilly identified. It’s unfortunate that some of them are not know to the Filipino communities due to their background they don’t tend to socialise with the Filipino community as much, many of them would never even think of registering the birth of the children with the embassy.
Again my apologies for miscommunicating what I intended to say, In the haste of writing and maybe to be a little funny, I misspelled and didn’t really check what I was writing to the point where it came out in the wrong way.

 

[Alcan2]

My apologies , that did not come across well. The intent was not to suggest that we use prostitution or any practice to get ahead. but to identify where children from mix race parents come from. If you noticed Jason Castro and Abueva both came from communities where former American Bases are located. We all know they’ve had tough lives with separated parents. While I’m not concluding that their parents didn’t have a normal husband and wife relationship, it would be naïve however not to be aware of the activities near US naval bases.
During my time here in NZ, I’ve met very commendable Filipinas , who just so happened to migrate by meeting their spouse through the “mail order pride” industry. Again I’m not condoning this activity at all. But what I’ve found out is , they are a source of identifying Filipinos with Philippine roots. And a lot of times these Filipinos, because of the nature of their background are not easilly identified. It’s unfortunate that some of them are not know to the Filipino communities due to their background they don’t tend to socialise with the Filipino community as much, many of them would never even think of registering the birth of the children with the embassy.
Again my apologies for miscommunicating what I intended to say, In the haste of writing and maybe to be a little funny, I misspelled and didn’t really check what I was writing to the point where it came out in the wrong way.

Without Jus Soli, we really to develop our grassroots... PBA should be a benchmark by allowing the likes of Compton and Kirk Long play in the PBA. Correct me if I'm wrong I think Yeo is a Full blooded taiwanese born and raised in the RP.

 

[PaVi2]

Lets cite a couple of PBA players, the latest baby of Marcio being born here if ever in the future is qualified to play for the national team.

On the other hand the child of Ryan Reyes since he was born in the US, he needs to get his Filipino citizenship and passport before he turns 16.

Just recently we tried recruiting the daughter of Asi to the U16 National Team, it does not matter if Asi was implicated in the Fil-Sham case, declared an illegal alien and subsequently deported but since she was born here and has a Philippine Passport at a young age, legally and by FIBA rules she could play for the national team. Unfortunately she does not have the same passion as his dad on basketball.

So if ever Marcus Douthit or Alex Compton have their children born here, then get their philippine citizenship
and passport at age 16, the children would be of the same classification as natural-borns to the eyes of FIBA.

So if past college imports Sudan, Pipo, Aquiful, Ferdinand, Batrecevic, etc or even current imports Ola, Mbe, Mbala, Abdul, etc have children born here no matter if they have Filipino mothers or not as long as they get Filipino Citizenship and Passport, to FIBA these children could pass as natural borns.

So now any news about a fortcoming baby from Juliana Palermo.

using this as basis, I think, jeff moore's son was born in the philippines? if I am correct... we can see if we can make him a filipino before 16.. I just don't know how old he is right now. any info, anyone?

 

[killmebusy2]

Why all the fuss about needing to have foreign blood? can't us pure pinoys do it?

 

[analyzed2]

Why all the fuss about needing to have foreign blood? can't us pure pinoys do it?

That would then be excluding legitimate Filipinos of the right to play for and in local leagues as locals. That's like saying only full blooded white Germans should play for the NT. A legitimate Filipino citizen of mixed race with foreign blood is every bit a Filipino as one who has pure filipino blood. (Jason Castro is as much a filipino as LA, and so is Alapag as filipino as LA

 

[nardy2]

using this as basis, I think, jeff moore's son was born in the philippines? if I am correct... we can see if we can make him a filipino before 16.. I just don't know how old he is right now. any info, anyone?

Jibran was born in Guadalajara, Mexico is already turning 17.

 

[PaVi2]

Jibran was born in Guadalajara, Mexico is already turning 17.

o well! sayang naman! (trans: just a missed opportunity)

btw, can't we float around the idea of some guys here in the Philippines, who are not playing in the PBA, (if they are confident enough in themselves) to try their luck out in the NBL or any league in the OCEANIA..
I know this sounds kinda far fetched but I believed we have so many good players who are not really been given a chance/ opportunity to show their wares in the PBA. maybe, they can try their luck in OCEANIA. Hey the likes of Nico Salva, I THINK, can develop into a very good and serviceable perimeter defender, 3-pt. shooter... if he plays against taller and bigger players in that part of the region. besides, there are some Filipinos out there, who are followers of UAAP, so i guess, he can have an instant following... just me guessing and wishful thinking though

 

[tito thoots2]

o well! sayang naman! (trans: just a missed opportunity)

btw, can't we float around the idea of some guys here in the Philippines, who are not playing in the PBA, (if they are confident enough in themselves) to try their luck out in the NBL or any league in the OCEANIA..
I know this sounds kinda far fetched but I believed we have so many good players who are not really been given a chance/ opportunity to show their wares in the PBA. maybe, they can try their luck in OCEANIA. Hey the likes of Nico Salva, I THINK, can develop into a very good and serviceable perimeter defender, 3-pt. shooter... if he plays against taller and bigger players in that part of the region. besides, there are some Filipinos out there, who are followers of UAAP, so i guess, he can have an instant following... just me guessing and wishful thinking though

Sorry to burst your bubble, Pavi but Nico will not be able to make any NBL roster. The funny thing about your suggestion is it sounds like that the NBL is levels below the PBA in terms of quality. He will have a hard enough time playing for the semi-pro leagues. However, with exposure, he may yet be able to adjust his game against bigger, more athletic big men.

 

[ariel_muhlach2]

o well! sayang naman! (trans: just a missed opportunity)

btw, can't we float around the idea of some guys here in the Philippines, who are not playing in the PBA, (if they are confident enough in themselves) to try their luck out in the NBL or any league in the OCEANIA..
I know this sounds kinda far fetched but I believed we have so many good players who are not really been given a chance/ opportunity to show their wares in the PBA. maybe, they can try their luck in OCEANIA. Hey the likes of Nico Salva, I THINK, can develop into a very good and serviceable perimeter defender, 3-pt. shooter... if he plays against taller and bigger players in that part of the region. besides, there are some Filipinos out there, who are followers of UAAP, so i guess, he can have an instant following... just me guessing and wishful thinking though

I do admire your belief on the talent of our players .... but what gave you the impression that players not good enough to make it to make it in the PBA have a better chance at Australia's NBL.

 

[PaVi2]

Sorry to burst your bubble, Pavi but Nico will not be able to make any NBL roster. The funny thing about your suggestion is it sounds like that the NBL is levels below the PBA in terms of quality. He will have a hard enough time playing for the semi-pro leagues. However, with exposure, he may yet be able to adjust his game against bigger, more athletic big men.

I do apologize if I make it appear that way. I was just thinking if he can try at least go for a tryout for some second tier/ 2nd division league or a semi-pro there for that matter. I know, OCEANIA, specially their pro is way better than ours. Just thinking out loud possibly if there is a chance that from a lower league he can go up the ranks. I think, in fairness to Nico, there is still hope that he can develop as a perimeter defender who can shoot the three. and what better way to evolve than playing against much higher competition as compared to his comfort zone here in the Philippines. Also, I believed that he can still develop better outside of the PBA. Whereas there in the PBA, I believe, he would just waste his time riding the bench.
Him trying to get in (Oceania), even if just for the possibility of applying for the lower leagues or semi-pro (if he gets lucky) would be beneficial to him, and to a certain extent the Philippines. A 6'4" guy who plays with grit and guts, plays smart, and if possible, develops a killer 3 will be beneficial to our Gilas Program. This is the same reason I think, Matt Ganuelas should try applying in OCEANIA and not the PBA... As they say, If you want to be stronger, play against better competition.

And as you say tito thoots, with exposure, he (Nico) may yet be able to adjust his game against bigger, more athletic big men. That in itself is a big achievement for the Philippines (Gilas Program), if ever NICO do evolve his game

 

[analyzed2]

I'm just thinking how Filipino players will support themselves while trying out in Aus or NZ

 

[PaVi2]

I do admire your belief on the talent of our players .... but what gave you the impression that players not good enough to make it to make it in the PBA have a better chance at Australia's NBL.

that is not what I am implying Ariel.. and if that is the case... please read my reply to tito thoots above for clarification. It's just me looking for certain possibilities on how to strengthen our Filipino players game. As my reply in tito thoots comment, if you wanted to be stronger, play against better competition. I think, OCEANIA definitely qualifies as better competition right. Heck, in fact, I also believe that other than Nico and Matt, Ray Parks should also try his luck in OCEANIA.. I think, he would evolve more if he would play there than in the PBA.

 

[tito thoots2]

I do apologize if I make it appear that way. I was just thinking if he can try at least go for a tryout for some second tier/ 2nd division league or a semi-pro there for that matter. I know, OCEANIA, specially their pro is way better than ours. Just thinking out loud possibly if there is a chance that from a lower league he can go up the ranks. I think, in fairness to Nico, there is still hope that he can develop as a perimeter defender who can shoot the three. and what better way to evolve than playing against much higher competition as compared to his comfort zone here in the Philippines. Also, I believed that he can still develop better outside of the PBA. Whereas there in the PBA, I believe, he would just waste his time riding the bench.
Him trying to get in (Oceania), even if just for the possibility of applying for the lower leagues or semi-pro (if he gets lucky) would be beneficial to him, and to a certain extent the Philippines. A 6'4" guy who plays with grit and guts, plays smart, and if possible, develops a killer 3 will be beneficial to our Gilas Program. This is the same reason I think, Matt Ganuelas should try applying in OCEANIA and not the PBA... As they say, If you want to be stronger, play against better competition.

And as you say tito thoots, with exposure, he (Nico) may yet be able to adjust his game against bigger, more athletic big men. That in itself is a big achievement for the Philippines (Gilas Program), if ever NICO do evolve his game

I have no doubt that our players will benefit a lot just by playing in the semi-pro leagues here. They will be tested to the physical limits but they will adjust- "survival of the fittest". By the time they come home, they will be better for it.

 

[tito thoots2]

I'm just thinking how Filipino players will support themselves while trying out in Aus or NZ

Get a job like everyone else...

Look my friend. I am already making it easy by paving way for them to enter the semi-pro leagues here. In ordinary circumstances, they will have to start from Men's Division 6 and make their way to div. 1. Then, they will have to make the roster for the GBL Bronze teams, make their name before getting promoted to the GBL silver team and finally after years of proving themselves, they get a shot to play against the pros in the premier semi pro Gold division. A lot of good players do not make it that far- between talent, injuries, life in general etc. I'm offering a free ticket straight to the top. Of course, they have to be talented as well, as I don't decide everything. Ex. I have seen the roster of ateneo and how they play, I'm telling you now, if Kiefer plays here, he will not be ball dominant. Standing below 6 feet, he will be utilised as a Point guard against 6'2 Jerrel Davies (NCAA). Can he play the point, at this level or does he have to step down to Bronze, train to be a point guard and then after a few seasons come back to the top division. He cannot play his favourite 2 guard position as you can see that the 2 guards stand 6'4". As a coach, what do I do now? I would love to have Kiefer here and train him up as point guard but in order to do that, he will have to take a few backsteps in order to move forward. Is he willing to do this? I ask now, are our local players like Nico, willing to step back a few steps to move forward in their game.

 

[analyzed2]

I actually have instructions from 2 NZ NBL teams to recruit for Philippine players, my list of capable players who i think are good enough is limited though

 

[PaVi2]

I have no doubt that our players will benefit a lot just by playing in the semi-pro leagues here. They will be tested to the physical limits but they will adjust- "survival of the fittest". By the time they come home, they will be better for it.

that's what I am thinking as well. If ever they survive, they will definitely come home much better as well