Philippines Cadet/Developmental Team

[paulargente2]

this my suggestion line up for fiba world cup 2014

c fajardo 610 nid to develop his quickness and inside shooting (i hope he can do hookshot like danny I)
pf douthit or new naturalized 610 above and a quick one
sf aguilar nid 69to develop his dribbling and shooting (maybe develop ala durant)
sg ellis 65 athletic player can shoot 3 but nid more offense
pg castro 511 fiba asia mythical but nid more outside shooting (must be tony parker style of playing)

slaughter 70 nid to improve defense and rebounding
thoss 68 can defend 610 players
de ocampo 66 can shoot around the court
norwood 65 all around player
rosser 65 all around player
chan or fonacier 63 3pt specialist
alapag 59 on court general explosive in offense long range 3pt shooting

my gilas dream team!

 

[paulargente2]

i hope gilas organization develops young basketball players for the future of philippine basketball and i think we need the help of our government here's my list of young basketball players

kobe paras 66
arvin tolentino 65
thridy ravena 63
george go 67
richard escoto 65
keifer ravena 60
terrence romeo 511
bobby ray parks 64
raymond almazan 67
arnold van opstal 67
greg slaughter 70
jeron teng 62
troy rosario 67
jp erram 67
kevin ferrer 65
norbert torres 66
ian sangalang 67

 

[reamily2]

A Danding guy handling the cadet/sea team = its like courting ECJ to lend his wards to the national team program

 

[PaVi2]

Sorry, but I want to clarify something which is a bit off-topic. Since you mentioned about qualifiers, I just want to ask this: Since the SEABA is the qualifier for the FIBA-Asia Championship, and we always dominate such tournament, then why do we bother so much about sending our "elite" players for the FIBA-Asia Cup? Regardless of how we perform in the FIBA-Asia Cup or how we place in that tournament, we are already assured of making it to the FIBA-Asia Championship the moment we make it to the top 2 in SEABA. And we all know, making it to the top 2 in SEABA is a "walk in the park" for any Philippine team.

Now with regards to the FIBA-Asia Cup which was formerly known as the FIBA-Asia Stankovic Cup, such tournament was used to determine the draw of the FIBA-Asia Championship. The placings of teams in the FIBA-Asia Cup or Stankovic Cup will determine the groupings or bracketing of teams of the FIBA-Asia Championship. For instance, the placings of teams in the 2010 FIBA-Asia Stankovic Cup was used to determine the bracketing of the 2011 FIBA-Asia Championship. But for this year's FIBA-Asia Championship, the placings of the 2012 FIBA-Asia Cup became academic because the tournament organizers opted for a "pure random" draw.

Yung pabago-bagong policy or rules ng FIBA or FIBA-Asia has become very confusing & complicated na.

From what I know, there are two qualifiers for the FIBA-ASIA Championships during the qualifier year. the direct route which is the FIBA-ASIA Cup, which automatically includes the Top 4, thereby increasing the total countries representing the region. So, in the case of the ASEAN, there were three countries representing the ASEAN - PHL, MAL, and THI. however, if one will not qualify for through the FIBA-ASIA CUP, another qualifier are the zonal ones, which in our case is the SEABA.. Here, the TOP 2 represent the region in the FIBA-ASIA Qualifier.

Hence the reason why i made an exception for both tournaments during the qualificaiton year. It is best if the Philippines would get a direct entry through the FIBA-ASIA Cup, so that our CADETS can participate in the SEABA qualifier as a way of seasoning them. I believe, if we are already qualified, we don't have to bring a naturalized player in the SEABA tournament and instead let our CADETS play all pinoy.

With the development of the ABL and ASEAN in general, there is a great possibility that other countries in the region will follow our route, and that is by way of naturalization and scouting for other ASEAN-Foreign players. This will definitely help our cause in improving the cadets since they will be able to play against supposedly more seasoned teams in the ASEAN (because basically, I believe, other ASEAN countries will get naturalized players for the 2015 edition).

Also, It is important to know this because, this is the last time that we will have an ALL Asian qualifier. the next qualifier will include the OZ and NZ, similar to what is being done in football. So might as well explore all possibilities for qualifying and try to make it happen so that our cadets will have better opportunities to compete.

AS for the FIBA-ASIA Championships, i don't know why they revert back to the old form. I believe, the ramdom draw will also be used for the FIBA World Cup. but then lets see.

As I just commented previously, we can find a way to help our CADETS have better competition without compromising the schedule of the PBA (because the PBA will not represent the country in all tournaments -- and all the tournaments I mentioned do not have FIBA points, so our ranking will not be affected), and this is just my mere suggestion.

For the CADETS - ASIAN Games as their own version of World Cup

Btw, it is true na nakakainis na pabago bago nalang sila palagi. Nevertheless, Laban Pilipinas! Puso!!
Seniors - Qualifiers for the World Cup and eventually the Olympics (by 2019 - the WC will be the qualifier for the Olympics, hence the reason for increasing the slots to 32 in the WC)

 

[Silent Killer2]

Theirs a seaba qualifiers for fiba asia cup in which douthit, tenorio and thoss plus the cadet play in that tournament last year. Expect the same next year, we dont know the plans yet. We'll just wait. Cadets team is probable but the problem will be the availability of some amateur players.

Theirs no direct route for fiba asia championships. Instead whoever places in 2nd place to 4th will add additional slot for respective zone. The champions only is the direct qualifier for fiba asia championships

 

[PaVi2]

@Silent Killer: thanks for that clarification

 

[dex102]

i hope gilas organization develops young basketball players for the future of philippine basketball and i think we need the help of our government here's my list of young basketball players

kobe paras 66
arvin tolentino 65
thridy ravena 63
george go 67
richard escoto 65
keifer ravena 60
terrence romeo 511
bobby ray parks 64
raymond almazan 67
arnold van opstal 67
greg slaughter 70
jeron teng 62
troy rosario 67
jp erram 67
kevin ferrer 65
norbert torres 66
ian sangalang 67

i like your composition of ur cadet team..

 

[JAMSKIE2]

Theirs a seaba qualifiers for fiba asia cup in which douthit, tenorio and thoss plus the cadet play in that tournament last year. Expect the same next year, we dont know the plans yet. We'll just wait. Cadets team is probable but the problem will be the availability of some amateur players.

Theirs no direct route for fiba asia championships. Instead whoever places in 2nd place to 4th will add additional slot for respective zone. The champions only is the direct qualifier for fiba asia championships

So we did Malaysia & Thailand a favor by placing 4th in last year's FIBA-Asia Cup because one more slot was added to the SEABA zone?

My suggestion is that we send a "high-low mix" team in next year's FIBA-Asia Cup ("high" means PBA stars & "low" means cadets or developmental players). Lets say 6 PBA stars, 5 cadets & Marcus Douthit. This team might not be strong enough to finish among the top four teams in that tournament, but who cares about giving favor to Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia? Problema na nila yun if only 2 slots are given to SEABA in case team Philippines fails to make it to the top 4 of next year's FIBA-Asia Cup. What I care about is for us to have a team strong enough to dominate SEABA & I'm very confident an all-amateur team reinforced by Marcus Douthit will be strong enough to make it to the top 2 in SEABA.

This suggestion may be contrary to that of PaVi . What I want is for our cadets like Rayray Parks, Gregg Slaughter, Ian Sanggalang, Raymund Almazan, Garvo Lanete or Matt Ganuelas to be exposed in tougher international competitions like FIBA-Asia Cup where the traditional Asian powerhouse teams participate. I think these players won't gain much benefit playing in SEABA where the level of competition (I'm sorry to say) is nowhere near the FIBA-Asia Cup or even the Jones Cup. I think SEABA competition is good experience only for lower-caliber amateur players like Terence Romeo, Kevin Ferrer, Jeron & Jerick Teng, Arnold Van Opstal, or Baser Amer. But for the likes of Parks, Slaughter, Sanggalang, Lanete, etc., these players need to go to the next level.

 

[nardy2]

The Youngest Player of the tournament, Kobe Paras is one of the 4 finalists in the Honda Dunk Contest at the 2013 Jakarta FIBA U18 3X3 Championship. https://m.youtube.com/watch?a=&v=9p...p_uri=/watch?v=9pjj6VCCcAs&feature=youtu.be&a He'll be against players from China, Spain and the USA. The 4 players with the highest scores advance to the Final which consists of two rounds. To be played on 29 September at 8:45 pm on court 1. The Dunk contest winner strikes gold, the other finalist gets silver and the two semi-finalists collect bronze.

 

[yogaflame2]

I hope Kobe Paras will consider playing his college basketball in USA to have more improvement. Ala Japeth join division 1 NCAA team. I'm afraid in uaap he will be turn into a center because he is tall instead of a Small forward or sG.

 

[OjiesIII2]

I hope Kobe Paras consider playing his college in USA to have more improvement. I'm afraid in uaap he will be turn into a center because he is tall instead of a Small forward or sG.

Not if he goes to Lasalle, he could be a replacement for Jeron at Small Forward.

 

[yogaflame2]

Not if he goes to Lasalle, he could be a replacement for Jeron at Small Forward.

He has the potential to be a good small forward or SG, if its DLSU I hope he will play as a small forward or SG not center.

 

[digitalsuperman2]

I hope Kobe Paras will consider playing his college basketball in USA to have more improvement. Ala Japeth join division 1 NCAA team. I'm afraid in uaap he will be turn into a center because he is tall instead of a Small forward or sG.

with his exposure for the 3x3 U18 Championship, i think there's a good possibility scouts from colleges will take notice. i really hope he does go to USA. either NCAA Div1 or Div2 will be good for him.

 

[Silent Killer2]

http://http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/ravena-newsome-given-invitation-to-join-sea-games-bound-sinag-team

Ravena, Newsome given invitations to join SEA Games-bound Sinag team
From: Snow BaduaSeptember 29, 2013, 07:05 pm

ONE by one, the pieces for the Philippine men’s basketball team to the Southeast Asian Games are falling into place.

Ateneo stars Kiefer Ravena and Chris Newsome are among the latest players given invitations to play for the squad that is out to defend its title during in the biennial meet in Myanmar from December 11-22.

Ravena confirmed to Spin.ph that he has already been invited for a second SEA Games stint.

“Tinawagan ako at sinabi nga na interested daw sila sa akin,” said Ravena of the call he received on Saturday afternoon from Gilas Pilipinas team manager Butch Antonio.

A veteran of the 2011 edition of the regional meet held in Indonesia, Ravena is optimistic he and Newsome will be able to secure a clearance from Ateneo to play for flag and country since the SEA Games will not be in conflict with any collegiate tournaments in December.

“Wala naman sigurong magiging problema. Kung sa studies ko lang, kaya ko namang maghabol,” assured the Communications Technology Management student.

Ravena and Newsome are set to beef up the Sinag Pilipinas team, joining Gilas cadets Kevin Louie Alas, Ronald Pascual, Garvo Lanete, Jake Pascual, Matt Ganuelas, and RR Garcia.

The two Ateneo stars are also among seven collegiate players being eyed by national coach Chot Reyes to beef up the cadet pool.

[For full story, see Ravena, Romeo, Parks Almazan lead new batch of Gilas invitees]

Gilas Pilipinas naturalized center Marcus Douthit is also being considered for a spot in the Philippine side, leaving coach Jong Uichico with just three vacancies in his players roster.

Uichico, meanwhile, told Spin.ph he will still evaluate the list of 24 players given to him by the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP), ahead of the team’s first day of practice on October 14.

Asked about the suggestion of the Philippines Sports Commission and Philippine Olympic Committee to send an all-pro team to the SEA Games, Ravena gave his two cents worth on the matter.

“Kung titignan natin `yung result nung team namin last time na nag-gold sa Indonesia, siguro naman malaki pa rin ang tsansa na mag-gold ulit tayo,” said the cat-quick UAAP sentinel.

“Pero syempre, iba pa rin pag PBA, kung yun ang gugustuhin nila (POC). Kami naman, we will make sure na ibibigay namin ang lahat sa bawat game, madepensahan lang` yung turf natin,” added the eldest playing son of former PBA player Bong Ravena.

“Time will come, kami rin naman nandudun (PBA),” he added.

Since joining the SEA Games in 1977, the Philippines has won 15 of the 16 men’s basketball golds put at stake, the lone exception coming in 1989 when Malaysia toppled the Filipinos on home turf.

“Lahat naman ng Asean countries nag-ca-catch up sa basketball, pero syempre hindi naman tayo lulusob dun nang hindi prepared,” Ravena added.

 

[sajubeads2]

Kobe won the slamdunk contest. Reported at Aktv center.

 

[sajubeads2]

Just a thought and i think this could work. Players discovered by SBP through their scouts or through referrals from our well meaning " keyboard scouts" signed in a sort of player agency under and handled by SBP, who will handle and shart the career of these players. That way we can prevent these players being poached and held hostage by their greedy schools or D league teams. Kesa si Sheryl Reyes or Manotoc makinabang sa players na sina Nards , Tito thoots or Analyzed nakadiscover. Besides instead of Manotoc or Reyes taking cuts from these player , the agency can have the players have the money on their own, sort of similar to Mr. aldeguer in boxing, who dont get any cut from his boxers purse. The player agency could also have the interested schools or D league teams have in the players contract that they release the players for national team duty. This way we turn the tables on these greedy schools. I think its just fair that for SBP that with its due diligence in discovering this talents they sort of a hold on them. Parang finders keeper kung baga. Imagine players discovered by Nards from the province, Fil Oz or Fil New Zealander discoverd by Tito Thoots or Analyzed , only to be poached by Sheryl Reyes or Manotoc. Besides we can have Nards , Tito Thoots or Analyzed as the player agents of the SBP, with no cuts of course

 

[yogaflame2]

with his exposure for the 3x3 U18 Championship, i think there's a good possibility scouts from colleges will take notice. i really hope he does go to USA. either NCAA Div1 or Div2 will be good for him.

That's is what i'm hoping for I hope he gets notice by NCAA scouts or even NBA scouts or his athleticism will be shown in ESPN to get notice. I think he can still grow, maybe he can reach the height of 6'9 or 6'8. I hope he will inherit the power game of his father and add some dribbling and shooting skills. A stretch four will be good.

 

[analyzed2]

Just a thought and i think this could work. Players discovered by SBP through their scouts or through referrals from our well meaning " keyboard scouts" signed in a sort of player agency under and handled by SBP, who will handle and shart the career of these players. That way we can prevent these players being poached and held hostage by their greedy schools or D league teams. Kesa si Sheryl Reyes or Manotoc makinabang sa players na sina Nards , Tito thoots or Analyzed nakadiscover. Besides instead of Manotoc or Reyes taking cuts from these player , the agency can have the players have the money on their own, sort of similar to Mr. aldeguer in boxing, who dont get any cut from his boxers purse. The player agency could also have the interested schools or D league teams have in the players contract that they release the players for national team duty. This way we turn the tables on these greedy schools. I think its just fair that for SBP that with its due diligence in discovering this talents they sort of a hold on them. Parang finders keeper kung baga. Imagine players discovered by Nards from the province, Fil Oz or Fil New Zealander discoverd by Tito Thoots or Analyzed , only to be poached by Sheryl Reyes or Manotoc. Besides we can have Nards , Tito Thoots or Analyzed as the player agents of the SBP, with no cuts of course

I don’t know if your suggestion will work, but anyway I’ve always helped and will continue to (scout for players, develop them, fix there papers, mediate in behalf of them) free of charge. Time and time I always get the “surprised look” that I’m doing this for free. Kahit sila Chot and Butch are surprised. What it has given me in return is anyone who deals with me knows that I have no self interest in mind , which provides me better leverage and trust. I know people take advantage of this though, I actually am being pestered by “University” contacts , wanting me to refer them to so and so players. That’s fine I’m just here to advise the kids and their parents on my opinion on how to go about things. In some instances I’m asked to mediate contract negotiations, again to the other parties surprise (mostly team management) they realise I’m just doing this to look after the interest of the kid and their parents. These favors and arrangements are mostly asked by parent for me to look after their kids affairs. To be fair however to schools, it's actually a contract , represent school (they own you) for whatever (scholarship , benefits etc), and in most cases it's the parents themselves who give the stamp of approval that this is what they want to do, after all they're after the long term benefits for their child (getting an eduction )

 

[OjiesIII2]

That's is what i'm hoping for I hope he gets notice by NCAA scouts or even NBA scouts or his athleticism will be shown in ESPN to get notice. I think he can still grow, maybe he can reach the height of 6'9 or 6'8. I hope he will inherit the power game of his father and add some dribbling and shooting skills. A stretch four will be good.

It would be good to see if Kobe stretch to 6'7 to 6'8 which is not far fetch since he is almost 6'6 right now and plays small forward. He was the youngest player in FIBA3x3 in Indonesia and won the slam dunk contest. That says a lot about the athleticism of this kid. Would love to see him follow the footsteps of Danny Siegle and not KG Canaleta. Sure Kobe would be his own type of player someday and hopefully he fulfill his potential.

 

[analyzed2]

hmm , looks like our wings for the future look bright, with Kobe, parks and that guy from Greece we've got 1 of generation type players who can carry the tourch left by our current nationals .
We will always find a decent naturalised center to lead our legit bigs (Junmar and Greg) PG's is not a problem either.

So things are looking good.