Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[lovejones2]

that "something else" is your country.

Reyes waits as Thoss meets with Uytengsu
By Richard Dy
August 31, 2012, 09:31 am

Chot Reyes has until the end of business hours on Friday to submit his final lineup to Fiba Asia Cup organizers.Jerome Ascano

THE clock is ticking for Smart Gilas 2.0 as Chot Reyes waits for the result of a meeting between slotman Sonny Thoss and Alaska team owner Wilfred Uytengsu before finalizing his lineup for the Fiba Asia Cup in Tokyo next month in time for the deadline set by organizers.

Thoss' availability will have a big impact on Gilas' lineup for the September 14-22 tournament since the 6-7 slotman is the best option as naturalized player Marcus Douthit's chief back-up -- a role the Alaska star played so well in the national team's successful championship run in the Jones Cup.

"The entire make-up of the team will depend on whether Sonny will be there or not," Reyes told Spin.phon Friday morning. "There are a lot of combinations to consider, pero lahat 'yon magde-depende kung andyan si Sonny because he plays a crucial role in the team."

Thoss has made known his desire to join Gilas in the Tokyo trip but Alaska has put its foot down, insisting that all its players stay home and focus on the team's twice-a-day practices as the Uytengsu franchise attempts to rebound from a disappointing 10-22 (win-loss) campaign last season.

LA Tenorio, another Alaska star who played for the title-winning Jones Cup side, has been packaged in a proposed three-team trade that is left hanging by protracted negotiations between Global Port and Ginebra over another key compotent of the deal, JV Casio.

Alaska insiders said Thoss is set to meet on Friday with Uytengsu, who in no uncertain terms has told the coaching staff that he wants all the players to concentrate on the buildup for the coming season.

Although the stand he is taking may be an unpopular one, Uytengsu feels Alaska has bent backwards a lot of times for the national teams in the past and it is time for other ballclubs "to step up" now that the Aces can't afford to loan their players to the Tokyo-bound team, insiders said.

Reyes said he will finalize his 14-man lineup at the end of the Thoss-Uytengsu meeting. The national coach said he has until the end of business hours on Friday to submit his lineup to organizers.

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Remember, Alaska just lent its players to the SEABA and Jones Cup

 

[killmebusy2]

that "something else" is your country.

which again, isn't the end all be all (ok maybe to you but not to everyone, especially if you have a business to protect)...besides, the japan games will only be an exhibition tourney...meaningless in terms of world rankings. also look, la has already proved his worth in the jones cup...go find someone else to tryout...castro maybe or reyes or ross or uyloan for all we know. why not send a different group of guys from the pool? the objective isn't to win anyway but to scout, train, tryout the new system, select the players fit for the new system, etc..or are we focused now on winning instead? such a short sighted move imo...a couple weeks ago they were preaching 'we aren't here to win but to blah blah blah'...now we are in it to win it? as inconsistent a stand as humanly possible. besides, nobody reacted to the "casio is the best point guard in the world" statement you guys were throwing out just a year ago. point is, alaska gets fair value in the trade and that's all that matters to me.

 

[killmebusy2]

Reyes waits as Thoss meets with Uytengsu
By Richard Dy
August 31, 2012, 09:31 am

Chot Reyes has until the end of business hours on Friday to submit his final lineup to Fiba Asia Cup organizers.Jerome Ascano

THE clock is ticking for Smart Gilas 2.0 as Chot Reyes waits for the result of a meeting between slotman Sonny Thoss and Alaska team owner Wilfred Uytengsu before finalizing his lineup for the Fiba Asia Cup in Tokyo next month in time for the deadline set by organizers.

Thoss' availability will have a big impact on Gilas' lineup for the September 14-22 tournament since the 6-7 slotman is the best option as naturalized player Marcus Douthit's chief back-up -- a role the Alaska star played so well in the national team's successful championship run in the Jones Cup.

"The entire make-up of the team will depend on whether Sonny will be there or not," Reyes told Spin.phon Friday morning. "There are a lot of combinations to consider, pero lahat 'yon magde-depende kung andyan si Sonny because he plays a crucial role in the team."

Thoss has made known his desire to join Gilas in the Tokyo trip but Alaska has put its foot down, insisting that all its players stay home and focus on the team's twice-a-day practices as the Uytengsu franchise attempts to rebound from a disappointing 10-22 (win-loss) campaign last season.

LA Tenorio, another Alaska star who played for the title-winning Jones Cup side, has been packaged in a proposed three-team trade that is left hanging by protracted negotiations between Global Port and Ginebra over another key compotent of the deal, JV Casio.

Alaska insiders said Thoss is set to meet on Friday with Uytengsu, who in no uncertain terms has told the coaching staff that he wants all the players to concentrate on the buildup for the coming season.

Although the stand he is taking may be an unpopular one, Uytengsu feels Alaska has bent backwards a lot of times for the national teams in the past and it is time for other ballclubs "to step up" now that the Aces can't afford to loan their players to the Tokyo-bound team, insiders said.

Reyes said he will finalize his 14-man lineup at the end of the Thoss-Uytengsu meeting. The national coach said he has until the end of business hours on Friday to submit his lineup to organizers.

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Remember, Alaska just lent its players to the SEABA and Jones Cup

makes me wonder..what if we did not win the jones cup but merely made a good account of ourselves will we be in the same situation? looks like winning an exhibition tourney has gone to people's heads.

 

[swish#202]

Although the stand he is taking may be an unpopular one, Uytengsu feels Alaska has bent backwards a lot of times for the national teams in the past and it is time for other ballclubs "to step up" now that the Aces can't afford to loan their players to the Tokyo-bound team, insiders said.

Reyes said he will finalize his 14-man lineup at the end of the Thoss-Uytengsu meeting. The national coach said he has until the end of business hours on Friday to submit his lineup to organizers.

i understand uytengsu's frustrations, he has been helping the national team, and helping a lot of young pinoys with his Alaska sports hub, but please, don't tire of helping the Men's Bball NT. i also understand your concern on Tenorio, your bargaining chip, any injury happens (knock on wood) then the deal is off. but then i feel there's divine providence in this NT, just look at how many come from behind wins they engineered.

 

[manu_bol2]

Remember, Alaska just lent its players to the SEABA and Jones Cup

not to single out a particular club.

but in general terms, it should be GOd and country above all else.

 

[manu_bol2]

which again, isn't the end all be all (ok maybe to you but not to everyone, especially if you have a business to protect)...besides, the japan games will only be an exhibition tourney...meaningless in terms of world rankings. also look, la has already proved his worth in the jones cup...go find someone else to tryout...castro maybe or reyes or ross or uyloan for all we know. why not send a different group of guys from the pool? the objective isn't to win anyway but to scout, train, tryout the new system, select the players fit for the new system, etc..or are we focused now on winning instead? such a short sighted move imo...a couple weeks ago they were preaching 'we aren't here to win but to blah blah blah'...now we are in it to win it? as inconsistent a stand as humanly possible. besides, nobody reacted to the "casio is the best point guard in the world" statement you guys were throwing out just a year ago. point is, alaska gets fair value in the trade and that's all that matters to me.

the minor tournaments will lead us to the ultimate prize. we are not focused on winning, at least in my own perspective, but jelling and perfecting chot's system is the reason why we need these players even in minor tournaments. because even if we won the jones cup, it was far from a perfect performance. yes, players like tenorio and thosss are still on the learning curve with chot's system.

 

[epic_dream2]

not to single out a particular club.

but in general terms, it should be GOd and country above all else.

for righteous man, but not for evil/greedy (NOLI EALA/RSA/WYU)

 

[killmebusy2]

for righteous man, but not for evil/greedy (NOLI EALA/RSA/WYU)

LOL...tell MVP to remove the smart-gilas name from the NT first then we can call him righteous.

 

[ricodgame2]

LOL...tell MVP to remove the smart-gilas name from the NT first then we can call him righteous.

lol lol - Tell MVP to stop financing the NT, then let it bank-rolled by the Government for him to remove that.

 

[bognut2]

LOL...tell MVP to remove the smart-gilas name from the NT first then we can call him righteous.

What if they change it to Meralco-Gilas Pilipinas? will SMC lend its players?

 

[epic_dream2]

LOL...tell MVP to remove the smart-gilas name from the NT first then we can call him righteous.

you hurt mr. insider?
oh i forgot the Powerade Pilipinas,SMC/Magnolia Pilipinas before.

 

[pacifier2]

here's the thing...guys, wake up...the national team is not everything in the world. uytengsu has a business, a brand to protect. think about it, you have an employee who refuses to go to work (practice) because he wants to focus on something else...you've gone thru a bad year performance wise and would want to improve on that the next year but your star player is not interested coz he has a different goal...so what do you do? put yourself in the owner's shoes for once. it's not like alaska had a banner year like ROS. look, they got casio (who i'm pretty sure everyone here said was wwaaaaayyyy better than tenorio when jv was playing for gilas) and now you guys are criticizing alaska for trading la for max value? be objective...

you should be the one waking up. that something else "national team" is bigger than PBA Salud knows it and PBA is bigger than its ballclub. If you ask anybody which one they want local recognition or world recognition I think even you can answer this. If you support Alaska for trying to convince LA on not playing for the country well what can I say? You think like them "businesmen"? I don't know if its a complement. If we want the world we need a cohesion of the best not the cohesion of 2nd 3rd 4th choices it doesn't matter if it does not accumalate points in Fiba rankings what's important is we achieve cohesion "TEAMWORK". We are not even champions in are region so we don't have a proven line-up of winners chot is trying to collect the best possible players in limited number of tournaments to gain experience and cohesion. After Fiba Asia Cup when do you think is their next tournament? So when do you expect this cohesion, by the way its a team game I keep reiterating this to remind you ok its a "TEAM BALL GAME"

 

[DaveMap20072]

What if they change it to Meralco-Gilas Pilipinas? will SMC lend its players?

Hahaha the root of this war...RSA and MVP must kiss and makeup first with Meralco..

 

[drhouse2]

To Manu Bol:

Please include in your 8-1-0 count also the 1 for championships won. It's possible they can win more.

We wouldn't mind also if you count how many 2012-2014 championships the three Sentinel Prime robot teams will win. They are supposed to have the best of the best of the best. It would be nice to find out how many Asian championships the national team can win, and how many barangay championships the SanMig teams will win.

 

[privateEYE2]

What if they change it to Meralco-Gilas Pilipinas? will SMC lend its players?

No sense in marketing Meralco in international scene.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

Let's not be fooled by the alibis & lame excuses of SMC

Let's not be fooled by the alibis & lame excuses of SMC

lol lol - Tell MVP to stop financing the NT, then let it bank-rolled by the Government for him to remove that.

KOREK ka dyan bro!

What company on it's right mind would be willing to bankroll good amount of money for a team if it's product is not advertised?

When San Miguel Corporation was the sponsor of our Phi. team during the years 2005, 2006 & 2007, did it not print it's products on the playing jerseys & banners of the team?
Didn't SMC print product names such as San Mig Coffee, Purefoods Sugarcane Venigar, Magnolia & San Miguel Beer on the jerseys of our nat'l. team players during SMC's reign as national team official sponsor? And to think that our national team then was also made up of players from different PBA teams, which included the Talk n' Text players of MVP.

My friends, let's not be fooled by the alibis & justifications of SMC people. SMC is just using the issue of "branding" to justify it's selfish & unpatriotic act!

Wag na tayong magpa ikot-ikot pa!

 

[killmebusy2]

lol lol - Tell MVP to stop financing the NT, then let it bank-rolled by the Government for him to remove that.

so, he is also in it for the business? yeah, thought so...

 

[killmebusy2]

you hurt mr. insider?
oh i forgot the Powerade Pilipinas,SMC/Magnolia Pilipinas before.

i'm not an insider..just an open minded person not blinded by - frankly, i don't know what you fanboys are blinded by anymore. yeah well, that was before MVP blindsided RSA with their business deals...this really is just a war between the two businesses and the national team is caught smack in the middle.

 

[killmebusy2]

KOREK ka dyan bro!

What company on it's right mind would be willing to bankroll good amount of money for a team if it's product is not advertised?

When San Miguel Corporation was the sponsor of our Phi. team during the years 2005, 2006 & 2007, did it not print it's products on the playing jerseys & banners of the team?
Didn't SMC print product names such as San Mig Coffee, Purefoods Sugarcane Venigar, Magnolia & San Miguel Beer on the jerseys of our nat'l. team players during SMC's reign as national team official sponsor? And to think that our national team then was also made up of players from different PBA teams, which included the Talk n' Text players of MVP.

My friends, let's not be fooled by the alibis & justifications of SMC people. SMC is just using the issue of "branding" to justify it's selfish & unpatriotic act!

Wag na tayong magpa ikot-ikot pa!

yes, that is an excuse...we all know that the true reason is the business war between the 2 companies.

 

[durden_tyler2]

yes, that is an excuse...we all know that the true reason is the business war between the 2 companies.

For most of IBN, it's really just that simple when it's not