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I think meralco played decent against BAD as well, but the rest of the field just showed how left behind the Philippines is,
BAD was also a box office draw, too bad we wont be seeing another guest team of that caliber in the league any time soon
Yeah, MERALCO under Black also beat the Dragons. I just said 7-game series for Ginebra. Hahahahaha.
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CoJ2
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I like meralco ,better team culture, less drama, great pieces, they are a superstar away from contending (imaging mikey or bolick in meralco with all those pieces)
tnt may be loaded but is still stuck with their petronovela phase.
tnt may be loaded but is still stuck with their petronovela phase.
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Meralco’s defense is good. But that is their problem. Their two best players are below average shooters. Newsome would rather force a drive or contested middy than an open 3.
Nenad drew up a play with 1 second left for Newsome to get a wide open corner long two only for him to undershoot it entirely. Hodge on the other hand does not have one sure shot. Doesnt even attempt a 3.
Their 3rd best player plays on surgically repaired knees that limits his minutes. Maliksi scored 10 pts in the first half. And only got his first 2nd half bucket late in the 4th.
No matter how good their defense was they had to double CS and that meant leaving Cu or another shooter open.
They have a decent pick in Bates. Solid in defense but very raw on offense.
Their other picks though are questionable. Pasaol a 6’2 PF proves barely playable. Does not know how to box out. And is cold from 3. He becomes a target practice everytime Hodge needs to sit. Heck NLEX’s 5’10 Dominick Fajardo is more undersized but contributed more than him on both sides of the court.
5’9 Jolo Mendoza does not deserve to be in the PBA and yet played several minutes against Stanley Pringle. The guy is slow and has no decent handles nor quickness.
You see the sever unheralded but good forwards and guards picked low in this season and yet Meralco picked these two guys.
They got lucky in Quinto. Although he was a 5’10 PF in college he has the skills, mobiltiy explosiveness and length to play SF and some SG in the PB. But the guy doesnt treat his body like Passol.
Nenad drew up a play with 1 second left for Newsome to get a wide open corner long two only for him to undershoot it entirely. Hodge on the other hand does not have one sure shot. Doesnt even attempt a 3.
Their 3rd best player plays on surgically repaired knees that limits his minutes. Maliksi scored 10 pts in the first half. And only got his first 2nd half bucket late in the 4th.
No matter how good their defense was they had to double CS and that meant leaving Cu or another shooter open.
They have a decent pick in Bates. Solid in defense but very raw on offense.
Their other picks though are questionable. Pasaol a 6’2 PF proves barely playable. Does not know how to box out. And is cold from 3. He becomes a target practice everytime Hodge needs to sit. Heck NLEX’s 5’10 Dominick Fajardo is more undersized but contributed more than him on both sides of the court.
5’9 Jolo Mendoza does not deserve to be in the PBA and yet played several minutes against Stanley Pringle. The guy is slow and has no decent handles nor quickness.
You see the sever unheralded but good forwards and guards picked low in this season and yet Meralco picked these two guys.
They got lucky in Quinto. Although he was a 5’10 PF in college he has the skills, mobiltiy explosiveness and length to play SF and some SG in the PB. But the guy doesnt treat his body like Passol.
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Meralco’s defense is good. But that is their problem. Their two best players are below average shooters. Newsome would rather force a drive or contested middy than an open 3.
Nenad drew up a play with 1 second left for Newsome to get a wide open corner long two only for him to undershoot it entirely. Hodge on the other hand does not have one sure shot. Doesnt even attempt a 3.
Their 3rd best player plays on surgically repaired knees that limits his minutes. Maliksi scored 10 pts in the first half. And only got his first 2nd half bucket late in the 4th.
No matter how good their defense was they had to double CS and that meant leaving Cu or another shooter open.
They have a decent pick in Bates. Solid in defense but very raw on offense.
Their other picks though are questionable. Pasaol a 6’2 PF proves barely playable. Does not know how to box out. And is cold from 3. He becomes a target practice everytime Hodge needs to sit. Heck NLEX’s 5’10 Dominick Fajardo is more undersized but contributed more than him on both sides of the court.
5’9 Jolo Mendoza does not deserve to be in the PBA and yet played several minutes against Stanley Pringle. The guy is slow and has no decent handles nor quickness.
You see the sever unheralded but good forwards and guards picked low in this season and yet Meralco picked these two guys.
They got lucky in Quinto. Although he was a 5’10 PF in college he has the skills, mobiltiy explosiveness and length to play SF and some SG in the PB. But the guy doesnt treat his body like Passol.
Newsome, Quinto, Black, and Bates, that's pretty much the good picks for MERALCO since 2015. The rest of the decent players were from trades (except Hodge and Caram, who were also drafted). Banchero, Almazan, Torres, Maliksi.
Notable players picked after Pasaol: Nick Demusis, Alec Stockton, David Murrell, Andrei Caracut, RK Ilagan
As for Mendoza, I can't find any notables as of yet.
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I think meralco played decent against BAD as well, but the rest of the field just showed how left behind the Philippines is,
BAD was also a box office draw, too bad we wont be seeing another guest team of that caliber in the league any time soon
Phoenix and Mags defended Bay Area pretty well, though. They just didn't have it offensively. Perkins wasn't in the Phoenix-Bay Area game, so not really much Topex could do. Apart from those two, Ginebra, and MERALCO, they allowed Bay Area to score on them a lot.
Sucks lang talaga that the way to win in the PBA is far different from the way you win in continental club competitions.
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We have also to remember that those incoming PBA rookies next season who are playing right now in MPBL will have to finish their campaigns in MPBL before joining to their teams in the PBA... so guys like Baltazar, Cansino, etc... will have to finish their respective duties in MPBL first... That means Converge, who will likely pick Baltazar have to wait for him... Expecting another tanking next season for Converge because MPBL will likely finish their season somewhere late December or early January (In case Pampanga Lanterns will go all the way to the finals of MPBL)... next PBA season will likely start in August and MPBL still in the middle of their season... So Converge will playing w/o Baltazar atleast more than half of the season... expecting he will miss AFC and majority of Commissioners cup next year...
If the MPBL team wont release them, then they have to finish the MPBL season first. But for Balti, I can say, he is 50-50 that he can secure a release from Pampanga
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If the MPBL team wont release them, then they have to finish the MPBL season first. But for Balti, I can say, he is 50-50 that he can secure a release from Pampanga
Especially they are defending champions there... I don't think Mr. Pineda will release Balti in the middle of their season to play for Converge... Converge can wait naman... Even w/ Balti, Converge still far from being contenders... They need to invest more young players just like what ROS is doing to be competitive...
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if only Meralco was given the same resources as TNT they probably would be quite successful right now, without panlilo and chot meddling ofc.
Meralco some have their problems too, They acquire Belo from their farm team Blackwater but they buried him on the bench... Belo is doing good at BWE but they benched him until Belo lost his confidence until now... They were also have a chance to get Either Romeo or Parks from TNT but they also declined due to some various reasons...
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Here's a video on multi-club ownership. Kinda similar to sister teams in the PBA, but in this case, they're spread across multiple domestic leagues around the world.
Most notorious are the City Group, who own Manchester City in the Premier League, Melbourne City in the A-League in Aussie, New York City FC in the MLS, and even Girona, who will finish third in La Liga. Interesting, seeing both Man City and Girona are both in next year's UEFA Champions League, so they are given divestment options to prevent collusion and all that.
Most notorious are the City Group, who own Manchester City in the Premier League, Melbourne City in the A-League in Aussie, New York City FC in the MLS, and even Girona, who will finish third in La Liga. Interesting, seeing both Man City and Girona are both in next year's UEFA Champions League, so they are given divestment options to prevent collusion and all that.
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PVL slowly going the PBA route. The will also be having their first ever draft this July.
https://www.spin.ph/volleyball/pvl/...ri-nxled-a5172-20240520?ref=home_featured_big
Palou bared to SPIN.ph how he opposed the Akari-Nxled trade but was outnumbered in a ‘heated argument’ among members of the PVL management team, leading to a vote in favor of the second PVL sister-team transaction of 2024.
“There are mixed feelings. Personally, I was against it. But the PVL is ran by a management team of five. Just because I’m president, it doesn’t mean that what I say goes. We sit down, we discuss, we look at the pros and cons,” said Palou.
“But then, this happened with Akari and they’re saying now na wala pa kasi tayong rules na black and white. I said that’s beside the point, we already informed you. But they said they will contest that. They don’t have anything to show for that.
“It became a heated argument among us. So we went to a vote. I lost in that vote,” he added.
Prior to the 2024 PVL All-Filipino Conference in February, Choco Mucho hotshots Bea de Leon and Denden Lazaro-Revilla were shipped to sister team Creamline — one that led to a verbal pronouncement from the league restricting sister-team transactions.
“This issue, I was really against it. In fact, from the very beginning, I was saying we will not allow the transfers of some players from Choco Mucho to Creamline. We shouldn’t have allowed this anymore,” said Palou.
https://www.spin.ph/volleyball/pvl/...ri-nxled-a5172-20240520?ref=home_featured_big
Palou bared to SPIN.ph how he opposed the Akari-Nxled trade but was outnumbered in a ‘heated argument’ among members of the PVL management team, leading to a vote in favor of the second PVL sister-team transaction of 2024.
“There are mixed feelings. Personally, I was against it. But the PVL is ran by a management team of five. Just because I’m president, it doesn’t mean that what I say goes. We sit down, we discuss, we look at the pros and cons,” said Palou.
“But then, this happened with Akari and they’re saying now na wala pa kasi tayong rules na black and white. I said that’s beside the point, we already informed you. But they said they will contest that. They don’t have anything to show for that.
“It became a heated argument among us. So we went to a vote. I lost in that vote,” he added.
Prior to the 2024 PVL All-Filipino Conference in February, Choco Mucho hotshots Bea de Leon and Denden Lazaro-Revilla were shipped to sister team Creamline — one that led to a verbal pronouncement from the league restricting sister-team transactions.
“This issue, I was really against it. In fact, from the very beginning, I was saying we will not allow the transfers of some players from Choco Mucho to Creamline. We shouldn’t have allowed this anymore,” said Palou.
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PVL slowly going the PBA route. The will also be having their first ever draft this July.
https://www.spin.ph/volleyball/pvl/...ri-nxled-a5172-20240520?ref=home_featured_big
Palou bared to SPIN.ph how he opposed the Akari-Nxled trade but was outnumbered in a ‘heated argument’ among members of the PVL management team, leading to a vote in favor of the second PVL sister-team transaction of 2024.
“There are mixed feelings. Personally, I was against it. But the PVL is ran by a management team of five. Just because I’m president, it doesn’t mean that what I say goes. We sit down, we discuss, we look at the pros and cons,” said Palou.
“But then, this happened with Akari and they’re saying now na wala pa kasi tayong rules na black and white. I said that’s beside the point, we already informed you. But they said they will contest that. They don’t have anything to show for that.
“It became a heated argument among us. So we went to a vote. I lost in that vote,” he added.
Prior to the 2024 PVL All-Filipino Conference in February, Choco Mucho hotshots Bea de Leon and Denden Lazaro-Revilla were shipped to sister team Creamline — one that led to a verbal pronouncement from the league restricting sister-team transactions.
“This issue, I was really against it. In fact, from the very beginning, I was saying we will not allow the transfers of some players from Choco Mucho to Creamline. We shouldn’t have allowed this anymore,” said Palou.
Ph volleyball nt (for womens at least) i think is in a pretty bad spot, some of the best players are not willing to play and the fans have developed loyalty towards players instead of the national team.
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CoJ2
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I think we need to start a thread about ph volleyball
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IPC2
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PVL slowly going the PBA route. The will also be having their first ever draft this July.
https://www.spin.ph/volleyball/pvl/...ri-nxled-a5172-20240520?ref=home_featured_big
Palou bared to SPIN.ph how he opposed the Akari-Nxled trade but was outnumbered in a ‘heated argument’ among members of the PVL management team, leading to a vote in favor of the second PVL sister-team transaction of 2024.
“There are mixed feelings. Personally, I was against it. But the PVL is ran by a management team of five. Just because I’m president, it doesn’t mean that what I say goes. We sit down, we discuss, we look at the pros and cons,” said Palou.
“But then, this happened with Akari and they’re saying now na wala pa kasi tayong rules na black and white. I said that’s beside the point, we already informed you. But they said they will contest that. They don’t have anything to show for that.
“It became a heated argument among us. So we went to a vote. I lost in that vote,” he added.
Prior to the 2024 PVL All-Filipino Conference in February, Choco Mucho hotshots Bea de Leon and Denden Lazaro-Revilla were shipped to sister team Creamline — one that led to a verbal pronouncement from the league restricting sister-team transactions.
“This issue, I was really against it. In fact, from the very beginning, I was saying we will not allow the transfers of some players from Choco Mucho to Creamline. We shouldn’t have allowed this anymore,” said Palou.
Ph volleyball nt (for womens at least) i think is in a pretty bad spot, some of the best players are not willing to play and the fans have developed loyalty towards players instead of the national team.
I think we need to start a thread about ph volleyball
Volleyball thread is here: https://www.interbasket.net/forums/...t-oceania/asia-ot/12484-philippine-volleyball
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I couldn't agree with U more bro about the PBA. To be blunt, PBA isn't really a national team friendly league. I mean if you compare the PBA to other pro basketball leagues in Asia like the B-league, CBA, KBL, as well as the pro leagues of Iran & Lebanon, you will realize how national team friendly those leagues are & how disimilar our beloved PBA is. For one, yung PBA calendar isn't synchronized with the FIBA calendar which is something that the pro leagues of China, Japan, Iran, Korea, Lebanon are. I have tackled this subject countless of times na in this forum.
About AJ Edu, I just hope he doesn't end up in the PBA. I feel that players like Kai Sotto, AJ Edu, Dwight Ramos, who are vital components of Gilas should never play in the PBA. They are better off playing elsewhere.
Ang No. 1 problem dyan if AJ Edu plays in the PBA is his availability with the national team.
The PBA just declared a 3-conference format for the next season, in one of the worst timings possible. We have a FIBA tournament coming up in August 2025. August is the starting month of the season.
Let's see if the PBA can compress the season to last until mid-June, because the PBA did a June to April season last 2022-23 with a 3-conference format, plus 12 additional games in the Commissioner's Cup and window adjustments for July/August 2022, November 2022, and February 2023. Thing is, though, that season ended too close to the SEA Games (2 and a half weeks before the SEA Games, to be exact). Good thing we were good enough to win that gold thanks to JB, Newsome, CStand, BGR.
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IPC2
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Fans already have their ideas and it is actually good… but the commissioner didn’t listen to them… they stick what is store for them.. fans wants atleast 2 conference format, But they still insisting the 3 conference format, Fans want unlimited height in import flavored conference, but they stick with height limit to the reason they want fair play against smaller Filipinos, they block the entries of Chooks or any companies want to join because they will lessen the dominance of powerhouse SMC and MVP groups… Fans still loyal to PBA but the league doesn’t listen to them.. About the claim for volleyball is now the most popular sport, it’s too early.. If they consistently losing international competitions then the popularity will also decrease… PBA is not only institution that symbolize basketball here, There is UAAP/NCAA basketball drawing huge crowds, Gilas home games are sold out , and the NBA gathering atleast 8 million Filipino viewers on average.. Once Valdez and his batch retires, the popularity will drop too, unless they will find the next face of the sport (Maybe Bella Belen will do) will bring the sport to the greater heights even at international level… Just like in Lebanon, Football leagues there are more popular than basketball leagues but Basketball players are more popular and more success internationally… that’s why Lebanon is still basketball country than football… international success is the huge assessment for the popularity of the sport…
Sir Tukayo,
I've always posting this statements many times before and the possibility that it may be until kingdom come (oh dear!! wag naman sana).
the PBA Grandpas are not totally sold on the latest innovation and platforms on how the basketball landscape should be implemented in the Gen Z era.
for them the good old days type of atmosphere is still the cool way to present what pinoy basketball is all about.
as I said we cannot argue more with the Grandpas because they are protecting their own comfort zone, the safe space, just like the typical Grandpas on our own backyard they are not totally sold on new things.
not unlike the century old JPE, you can call him filthy depending on your political leaning but according to those closest to that old man, a big part of his brain is still longing for something new and doesn't afraid dipping his hand on the latest platforms, that is why until now he plays different kind of online games on his smartphone/tablet with a very competitive accumulated points to brag about.
hmm..maybe that's also one his main secret of his longevity and sharp mind until now, aside from...oh boy!! I'm biting my tongue right now. we are General Patronage here.
Old Cow eats and drink young grass alongside a very sweet fresh waters.
anyway. that is why.
I ain't very touchy on who's the most popular of not, for me I'm still hoping other team sports like Women Basketball, Mens Volleyball, Football, Baseball and Floorball should also have the same breath as Mens Basketball and Womens Volleyball minus the toxicity on those discipline.
Marcial really gave the "easier to guard, harder for imports to dominate" rationale as to the height limit.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...oves-6-10-limit-in-commish-cup-a793-20220509
As to 3-conference format, ayun na. It doesn't give an offseason, so let's just hope that it ends at least two months before a major international tournament (2025 FIBA Asia Cup in August 2025, 2026 Asian Games in September 2026, and 2027 WC in September 2027).
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Marcial really gave the "easier to guard, harder for imports to dominate" rationale as to the height limit.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...oves-6-10-limit-in-commish-cup-a793-20220509
As to 3-conference format, ayun na. It doesn't give an offseason, so let's just hope that it ends at least two months before a major international tournament (2025 FIBA Asia Cup in August 2025, 2026 Asian Games in September 2026, and 2027 WC in September 2027).
Sir IPC,
if only those PBA Grandpas are visionaries, issues like this should already been address because I remember during my childhood days that they are bragging on all front that the PBA is the trailblazer of Asian basketball.
now where's that audacity about that "trailblazing" thing,.
I haven't felt it until now.
it's really #PBAGrandpa4life
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IPC2
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Sir IPC,
if only those PBA Grandpas are visionaries, issues like this should already been address because I remember during my childhood days that they are bragging on all front that the PBA is the trailblazer of Asian basketball.
now where's that audacity about that "trailblazing" thing,.
I haven't felt it until now.
it's really #PBAGrandpa4life
I mean, look at how our teams performed in international club competition. SMB was a trailblazer in getting blown out by 56.
And I do see some trailblazing in more provincial games, but that's it. Nothing trailblazing on how to improve exposure (at least in the Metro) so as not to need a whole year for a season, how to escape controversy, how to attract players (and maybe teams), how to increase revenue, and how to improve the level of competition.
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I mean, look at how our teams performed in international club competition.
To be fair, SMB was a trailblazer in getting blown out by 56.
I think SMB is now more open to getting tall forwards who can shoot. Trollano has been helping their spacing a lot. If they can get a taller guy with similar offensive and defensive skills I am sure they will get him.
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I think SMB is now more open to getting tall forwards who can shoot. Trollano has been helping their spacing a lot. If they can get a taller guy with similar offensive and defensive skills I am sure they will get him.
The Death 5 performed well in the Terrific 12 with Prosper and Dez Wells.
I think hoarding can only be justified when you can maximize that talent, and you can win in international club comps. SMB need to be selective as to which players they can farm if they want to win internationally. Otherwise, they can farm however they want if they're just content in winning here (which is valid; I just feel like that's small club mentality).