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Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

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Was able to read that the PBA intends to enter the Chinese market, this was during 2018 when the NBA and China had a falling out due to Daryl Morey's tweets regarding Hong Kong. Would love to see a home-away series between BAD and BGSM in the near future!

Then Ginebra should qualify first in EASL to realize that dream match...
 
I think they can't do the 10-month-long season, if we finish the best Asian team this coming WC, we will qualify for the Olympics. If not we can still go to FIBA OQT next year. Unless they opt out and ask SBP to use the other players, not from the PBA.

Remember, In Nov 2023 also have 2025 FIBA Asia cup qualifiers too.... That's why your league has to adjust to FIBA schedule....
 
That was a blessing in disguise for his development. Cabagnot got traded. Romeo then Ross got injured. So CJ had to alternate with Enciso for the big PG minutes. However, SMB does not have a tall wing defender. Lassiter was their best wing defender but has lost a step or two on defense. CJ is sometimes the designated wing defender, taking away from his PG minutes. I commend Leo for giving CJ, PG minutes. But it is also his shortsightedness that has left SMB without a tall wing defender.

Is it Austria or SMC management that is responsible for not bringing in tall wing defenders?

Can't be SMC and Long Hair. Look at BGK, they brought in tall wings in Gray and Malonzo. I suspect it's Jurassic Kots Leo, the same guy who keeps JMF slow and fat.

I think SMB should just trade for Ferrer now just to fill the glaring gap in the wings (he's a 3-and-D guy, too). I believe it's not going to take that much to bring him in as Ferrer no longer has high upside in him, though he can still be serviceable for a team in need of a full-time 3.
 
https://www.espn.ph/basketball/pba/story/_/id/35512309/successful-commissioners-cup-run-bay-area-dragons-eye-potential-future-pba

After successful Commissioner's Cup run, Bay Area Dragons eye potential future in the PBA


After the Bay Area Dragons' successful run in the recently concluded Commissioner's Cup, East Asia Super League CEO Matt Beyer said the experience benefited both leagues and opened opportunities.

"We're gonna sit down with the PBA and talk about the future for that and how we continue to work on this and have the Dragons play in the PBA," Beyer told ESPN in an exclusive interview. "But I think the intention whether it be from Commissioner Willie (Marcial) or Chairman Ricky Vargas or other people within the PBA league office and among the teams is that it's been an exciting season and there's been value added because of the Dragons."

Beyer said there was heightened interest in the Dragons, particularly in the Commissioner's Cup finals, from viewers in China and the region.

"Next season, we're ready to help the PBA get a major rights deal in the market," Beyer said. "I think if the Bay Area Dragons continue to play in the Commissioner's Cup or in the PBA in whatever fashion in the future that there's going to be a Chinese rights holder that's going to want to come to the table to spend major money on this.


"If we're looking at just on EASL's social media accounts alone, I think we put it on three social media accounts with a combined quarter of a million, that's pretty good. That's just EASL. If you think about it, you put a big Chinese platform behind this you could be looking at 5 to 10 million fans per game in the future. And that's a very conservative estimate. On EASL games previously we've had over 22 million fans watching our games over all territories but at least 10 to 15 million from China alone on some of those games."

There is also talk about bringing some PBA games to the Dragons' backyard, according to Beyer.

"We're gonna be looking at the possibility of integrating games to the greater bay area of China, which would be Hong Kong and Macau, and to be able to see PBA action in these places as well where there can be multi-geography presence of these PBA games. That's sort of a broad concept at this point, but I think it's something that, if the finances work out and the scheduling works out, that would be very exciting."

While the Dragons fell short of the championship, falling to Barangay Ginebra San Miguel in lopsided fashion in Game 7, Beyer was happy with their overall performance.

"I think the team did excellently for a team that's together for the first season, new league, and the whole roster has been built from nothing," Beyer said. "You're playing arguably the best team in the PBA with a sizeable portion of the national team players, where every game is a road game, I thought they performed great. And I'm very proud of them."

However, Beyer admits that the team may have been overwhelmed by the Game 7 atmosphere in front of 55,000 fans.

"That raucous fan base in an arena like that and maybe there's 2% of the fan base that's there to support you and then the rest are for the other team, I think that's practice for the players and to go through that adversity, to have been through that will make them a lot stronger."

The Dragons have been in Manila since August, and will continue to train here for the next few weeks before leaving for Japan for the EASL Champions Week in early March. After that, the team may look at tweaking its lineup and to start preparing for the EASL's home-and-away tournament that's slated to kick off on Oct. 11.

Beyer believes the conditions are ripe for the EASL and the Dragons to reach greater heights in 2023.

"I'm just extremely grateful for the people in the Philippines, the PBA, the media for giving us a chance and welcoming us and allowing us to do this and opening their hearts to us," Beyer said. "I really look forward to what lies in the future and I think we're gonna do even bigger and more exciting things as we go forward."
 
https://www.espn.ph/basketball/pba/story/_/id/35512309/successful-commissioners-cup-run-bay-area-dragons-eye-potential-future-pba

After successful Commissioner's Cup run, Bay Area Dragons eye potential future in the PBA


After the Bay Area Dragons' successful run in the recently concluded Commissioner's Cup, East Asia Super League CEO Matt Beyer said the experience benefited both leagues and opened opportunities.

"We're gonna sit down with the PBA and talk about the future for that and how we continue to work on this and have the Dragons play in the PBA," Beyer told ESPN in an exclusive interview. "But I think the intention whether it be from Commissioner Willie (Marcial) or Chairman Ricky Vargas or other people within the PBA league office and among the teams is that it's been an exciting season and there's been value added because of the Dragons."

Beyer said there was heightened interest in the Dragons, particularly in the Commissioner's Cup finals, from viewers in China and the region.

"Next season, we're ready to help the PBA get a major rights deal in the market," Beyer said. "I think if the Bay Area Dragons continue to play in the Commissioner's Cup or in the PBA in whatever fashion in the future that there's going to be a Chinese rights holder that's going to want to come to the table to spend major money on this.


"If we're looking at just on EASL's social media accounts alone, I think we put it on three social media accounts with a combined quarter of a million, that's pretty good. That's just EASL. If you think about it, you put a big Chinese platform behind this you could be looking at 5 to 10 million fans per game in the future. And that's a very conservative estimate. On EASL games previously we've had over 22 million fans watching our games over all territories but at least 10 to 15 million from China alone on some of those games."

There is also talk about bringing some PBA games to the Dragons' backyard, according to Beyer.

"We're gonna be looking at the possibility of integrating games to the greater bay area of China, which would be Hong Kong and Macau, and to be able to see PBA action in these places as well where there can be multi-geography presence of these PBA games. That's sort of a broad concept at this point, but I think it's something that, if the finances work out and the scheduling works out, that would be very exciting."


While the Dragons fell short of the championship, falling to Barangay Ginebra San Miguel in lopsided fashion in Game 7, Beyer was happy with their overall performance.

"I think the team did excellently for a team that's together for the first season, new league, and the whole roster has been built from nothing," Beyer said. "You're playing arguably the best team in the PBA with a sizeable portion of the national team players, where every game is a road game, I thought they performed great. And I'm very proud of them."

However, Beyer admits that the team may have been overwhelmed by the Game 7 atmosphere in front of 55,000 fans.

"That raucous fan base in an arena like that and maybe there's 2% of the fan base that's there to support you and then the rest are for the other team, I think that's practice for the players and to go through that adversity, to have been through that will make them a lot stronger."

The Dragons have been in Manila since August, and will continue to train here for the next few weeks before leaving for Japan for the EASL Champions Week in early March. After that, the team may look at tweaking its lineup and to start preparing for the EASL's home-and-away tournament that's slated to kick off on Oct. 11.

Beyer believes the conditions are ripe for the EASL and the Dragons to reach greater heights in 2023.

"I'm just extremely grateful for the people in the Philippines, the PBA, the media for giving us a chance and welcoming us and allowing us to do this and opening their hearts to us," Beyer said. "I really look forward to what lies in the future and I think we're gonna do even bigger and more exciting things as we go forward."

This is what I am most looking forward to for PBA with its experimentation on having a quality guest team like BAD. If this materializes, this could be the closest to an NBA-like home-away format the PBA is ever going to have. Even if it's only for a best-of-seven finals series (BAD vs. any elite PBA team), it's most likely to become a huge domestic blockbuster draw, both ratings and gate attendance-wise.
 
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i don’t know where to put this but i put here instead.. (nice read)

secrets of euro hoops

https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/01/28/2240730/secrets-euro-hoops/amp/

Nice read

Meanwhile in the PBA - 1 import (restricted height)

And that import restriction is 6'10" for one tournament (1/3 of the season), and 6'6" for another tournament (1/3 of the season). Heck, there's even an all-local tournament.

At least allow a permanent import for the entire season. Gives other teams some form of inside presence, if they opt to choose a big for their import. Not everybody has Japeth Aguilar, Jamie Malonzo, and even June Mar Fajardo as rim protectors and inside presence. Furthermore, it might make some 6'5"-6'8" bigs who have the ability to play 4 more often. Bigs like Mo Tautuaa, Norbert Torres, Ian Sangalang, Dave Marcelo, JP Erram, Kelly Willams, Jeo Ambohot, Mike Miranda, Raymond Almazan, and JM Calma. The 4 is a position where they will find more minutes playing next to an import.

I think I'd been saying this for a while.
 
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I think a 2-import format in the PBA would put some balance in the competition. By having 2 imports per team, teams like Meralco, Magnolia, NLEX, Converge, ROS would be able to compete better against powerhouses San Miguel, Ginebra & TnT.

Well, maybe that is one of the reasons why PBA won't embrace the 2-import set-up. Mahihirapan na mag champion ang SMB & Ginebra.
 
2 imports for the 2 cellar-dwelling teams, 1 unli-height 1 with 6'4 limit.
 
https://twitter.com/jonasterradoINQ/status/1623958446436651008?t=xB-eOu41dGOhWLCpkvbo6A&s=19


Jonas Terrado
@jonasterradoINQ

PBA commissioner Willie Marcial holds an improptu press conference regarding the league?s recent board meeting
@INQUIRERSports

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The board agrees to lend its players for Gilas Pilipinas? participation in the Asian Games

Jonas Terrado
@jonasterradoINQ

The opening of the 48th season will be moved to October or a week after the conclusion of the Asiad

The pandemic-delayed biennial meet is set Sept. 23 to Oct. 8 in Hangzhou, China

Jonas Terrado
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The PBA Draft will be held in September

Jonas Terrado
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Proposed rule changes like the addition of a coach?s challenge is set to be discussed with the competition committee

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The planned preseason tournament is set to begin in May and will end in July.

Teams will be divided into two groups and they can include as many players as possible, including practice players.

No championship will be given after the preseason tilt
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Preseason games could be held outside of Metro Manila, most likely within Luzon, says Marcial
 
aside from robert bolick, who are the top free agents after the governor's cup?
 
I think a 2-import format in the PBA would put some balance in the competition. By having 2 imports per team, teams like Meralco, Magnolia, NLEX, Converge, ROS would be able to compete better against powerhouses San Miguel, Ginebra & TnT.

Well, maybe that is one of the reasons why PBA won't embrace the 2-import set-up. Mahihirapan na mag champion ang SMB & Ginebra.

How come SMB and Ginebra will have a hard time winning the championship if they will also have 2 imports, unless you are handicapping these teams with 1 import while the rest will have 2 imports
 
Next PBA season will start in October: https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/02/11/2244073/next-pba-season-start-after-asiad

1. It will be reduced to two conferences, the Philippine Cup and either the Commissioner’s or Governors’ Cup.

Honestly, I'd rather the season have the Commissioner's AND Governors' Cup. Scrap the All-Filipino as part of the regular season. And I hope the PBA goes at least to two conferences FOR GOOD, with the import conferences being the conferences. I'd prefer a single-season format, but this will have to do. If we want to be a better league than the KBL and B.League, having imports for the whole season is a start.

2. Draft will be held in September.
 
How come SMB and Ginebra will have a hard time winning the championship if they will also have 2 imports, unless you are handicapping these teams with 1 import while the rest will have 2 imports

Becoz I think SMC & Ginebra's overwhelming edge in local talents would be significantly mitigated if each PBA team has 2 imports. With a 2-import format, the weaker PBA teams can hire imports who would who would cover the weak spots of a team. Notice how Meralco is usually competitive in import-laden conferences but isn't that competitive in All-Filipino conferences.

Believe me when I say that in a 2-import per team format, teams like Converge, NLEX, Meralco would be able to compete better against SMB & Ginebra.
 
Becoz I think SMC & Ginebra's overwhelming edge in local talents would be significantly mitigated if each PBA team has 2 imports. With a 2-import format, the weaker PBA teams can hire imports who would who would cover the weak spots of a team. Notice how Meralco is usually competitive in import-laden conferences but isn't that competitive in All-Filipino conferences.

Believe me when I say that in a 2-import per team format, teams like Converge, NLEX, Meralco would be able to compete better against SMB & Ginebra.

Imports fill plenty of holes for a team. Wing play from a player 196cm and up (whether from the 3 or the 4), bigman play from a player 203cm and up (which not too many teams apart from Ginebra and SMB have), and rim protection. Those are key areas in which the PBA is lacking among its locals, and imports would fill those holes. More difficult matchups.

And if we're worried about displacement, if you have enough quality at the 3, 4, and 5 position, you won't be displaced. I don't exactly see Ian Sangalang, June Mar Fajardo, Japeth Aguilar, Christian Standhardinger, and Justin Arana getting displaced at the 4 and 5 spots, and Jamie Malonzo, Will Navarro, Arvin Tolentino, Gabe Norwood, and Calvin Oftana won't get displaced at the wing spots.
 
Imports fill plenty of holes for a team. Wing play from a player 196cm and up (whether from the 3 or the 4), bigman play from a player 203cm and up (which not too many teams apart from Ginebra and SMB have), and rim protection. Those are key areas in which the PBA is lacking among its locals, and imports would fill those holes. More difficult matchups.

And if we're worried about displacement, if you have enough quality at the 3, 4, and 5 position, you won't be displaced. I don't exactly see Ian Sangalang, June Mar Fajardo, Japeth Aguilar, Christian Standhardinger, and Justin Arana getting displaced at the 4 and 5 spots, and Jamie Malonzo, Will Navarro, Arvin Tolentino, Gabe Norwood, and Calvin Oftana won't get displaced at the wing spots.

Based on China logic. Them having too many imports neglected the development of their players hence they change it to one import at a time. Just like KBL, were they only won by 2 pts in WC despite KBL league is not at par with talent 9n the floor like CBA.
 
it doesn't really apply in the PBA, they have 3 conferences, 1 without imports. so it doesn't hurt the locals much if only 1 other conference has 2 imports
 
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