Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[IPC2]

But i have doubts on Meralco, In terms of recruiting players, Meralco is one of the least in terms on this, That Pinto move to Ginebra is also indication that Meralco is not properly utilized as organization.. That's why i will not surprise if TNT is the first one to get his services due to Chot's connection with him, another one is Ginebra, CTC loves these kind of player.. SO in the end, I think either TNT or Ginebra will try to get his services

Thing is Ginebra already has plenty of forwards, all of whom can play and/or guard the 3 in some capacity. Arvin Tolentino, Sidney Onwubere, Aljon Mariano, and Jared Dillinger. Not sure if Ginebra has room.

I think TNT is the more likely destination. Like you said, TNT's lacking in the wings outside of Khobuntin. I think he'll be a 3, or sometimes a small-ball 4 to accommodate Chot's 3-guard lineups.

 

[ja.he2]

Gokongwei's already had a go with the PBA before, they owned the Presto/Great Taste franchises

the rest of those conglomerates you mentioned also don't need the PBA at all to create value and drive sales for their brands

Well, the cost in operating a PBA team can be used as a business expenses that can be deducted to the gross income of a corporation.

SMC and MPIC are conglomerates. They don't really have to promote their products since they are: (1) popular to the public (Pale Pilsen for beers, Ginebra for gins, Magnolia for poultry meats); or (2) their competition is few or they don't really competition at all (TNT/SMART's duopoly with Globe while MERALCO and NLEX are public utility companies). Look, they are still in the league and pouring millions to operate teams.

 

[mathematicianrcg2]

Ganuelas Rosset declines contract extension from Terrafirma

LMAO.

Now Farm Teams will need to seed the players faster, so they can trade them before the players enter Free Agency.

And If I am the player, WHY WOULD I ACCEPT FARM TEAMS OFFER? LESS PERKS, LESS WINS, LESS ACHIEVEMENTS, LESS UNDER THE TABLE SALARY. ONLY POSITIVE IS YOU WILL HAVE MORE PLAYING TIME MAYBE.

 

[IPC2]

Roosevelt Adams is also a free agent: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...es-roosevelt-adams-to-free-agency/229896?s=09

SMB could be a possibility, and he could fill a hole in the wing. TNT, pwede rin. He provides shooting, an asset valuable to TNT, and he's a tall wing. The playoff teams could really use this guy.

Well, TerraFirma has lost two wings now. Ayan, farm team kasi. Players won't want to play for them if the pay is low, and they're losing consistently.

 

[mathematicianrcg2]

Roosevelt Adams is also a free agent: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...es-roosevelt-adams-to-free-agency/229896?s=09

SMB could be a possibility, and he could fill a hole in the wing. TNT, pwede rin. He provides shooting, an asset valuable to TNT, and he's a tall wing. The playoff teams could really use this guy.

Well, TerraFirma has lost two wings now. Ayan, farm team kasi. Players won't want to play for them if the pay is low, and they're losing consistently.

Told ya.

Now they cant do their usual. "Develop young players, then sell them if they are ripe".

Now Contenders will not even need to trade for them. They will just wait for them to be FA

 

[IPC2]

LMAO.

Now Farm Teams will need to seed the players faster, so they can trade them before the players enter Free Agency.

And If I am the player, WHY WOULD I ACCEPT FARM TEAMS OFFER? LESS PERKS, LESS WINS, LESS ACHIEVEMENTS, LESS UNDER THE TABLE SALARY. ONLY POSITIVE IS YOU WILL HAVE MORE PLAYING TIME MAYBE.

With this UFA rule, only draft picks and "scrubs" would be willing to sign on with the farm teams, just for playing time and probably money.

Well, this might signal the death of farm teams. I dunno if it's far-fetched or anything though.

 

[IPC2]

Roosevelt Adams is also a free agent: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...es-roosevelt-adams-to-free-agency/229896?s=09

SMB could be a possibility, and he could fill a hole in the wing. TNT, pwede rin. He provides shooting, an asset valuable to TNT, and he's a tall wing. The playoff teams could really use this guy.

Well, TerraFirma has lost two wings now. Ayan, farm team kasi. Players won't want to play for them if the pay is low, and they're losing consistently.

Adams had an opt-out clause in his contract, though, that's why he could become a UFA.

General rule for UFA is still playing for an aggregate period of 7 years to become one. Otherwise, you'd have to have an early opt out option, or get cut from the team.

 

[CoJ2]

the UFA rule hurts the farm teams as they could no longer earn by trading their drafted players, well if only we have a strict salary cap and transparency, eventually a level playing field could be achieved, too bad that's just a pipe dream, at least this would eliminate the incentives for tanking and farming for BWB and TF

 

[ja.he2]

This is the beauty of UFA - it will put farm teams out of relevance. Lopsided trades will be lessen since players have now power to choose where they want to play.

 

[ja.he2]

the UFA rule hurts the farm teams as they could no longer earn by trading their drafted players, well if only we have a strict salary cap and transparency, eventually a level playing field could be achieved, too bad that's just a pipe dream, at least this would eliminate the incentives for tanking and farming for BWB and TF

If I were Terrafirma, Blackwater and Northport, I will just sell the team to a more capable conglomerate/company. They will also earn by leaving the league.

 

[mathematicianrcg2]

Adams had an opt-out clause in his contract, though, that's why he could become a UFA.

General rule for UFA is still playing for an aggregate period of 7 years to become one. Otherwise, you'd have to have an early opt out option, or get cut from the team.

Eventually the 7yrs will be shorten. I guess.

Looks like pba is really following the nba.

Next step would be applying TRUE draft lottery thru ping pong balls like in NBA. (And it must be video recorded)

 

[hmbopbaduwap2]

Encho Serrano signs with Ginebra 3x3

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/encho-serrano-signs-with-ginebra-3x3/229862

 

[IPC2]

This is the beauty of UFA - it will put farm teams out of relevance. Lopsided trades will be lessen since players have now power to choose where they want to play.

Problem is, lopsided trades can still be a possibility, given the 7 years a player has to play before he becomes an unrestricted FA. For the rule to be truly effective in stopping farm teams and farm team trades, the waiting period needs to be shortened.

 

[IPC2]

the UFA rule hurts the farm teams as they could no longer earn by trading their drafted players, well if only we have a strict salary cap and transparency, eventually a level playing field could be achieved, too bad that's just a pipe dream, at least this would eliminate the incentives for tanking and farming for BWB and TF

As for the level playing field, that might be achieved when players in some teams want more playing time that they can't get in the big teams. They might have to go to the independent teams.

 

[ja.he2]

Problem is, lopsided trades can still be a possibility, given the 7 years a player has to play before he becomes an unrestricted FA. For the rule to be truly effective in stopping farm teams and farm team trades, the waiting period needs to be shortened.

It's should be co-terminus with the max contract period in the PBA. As far as I know, that is three years.

Free agency should always be co-terminus with the player's contract.

 

[IPC2]

It's should be co-terminus with the max contract period in the PBA. As far as I know, that is three years.

And the PBA has to adopt the rule that restricted free agency kicks in only once there is a qualifying offer. If there's no qyalifying offer within a certain period of time, it should be automatic unrestricted free agency.

 

[IPC2]

Roosevelt Adams is also a free agent: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...es-roosevelt-adams-to-free-agency/229896?s=09

SMB could be a possibility, and he could fill a hole in the wing. TNT, pwede rin. He provides shooting, an asset valuable to TNT, and he's a tall wing. The playoff teams could really use this guy.

Well, TerraFirma has lost two wings now. Ayan, farm team kasi. Players won't want to play for them if the pay is low, and they're losing consistently.

Adams had an opt-out clause in his contract, though, that's why he could become a UFA.

General rule for UFA is still playing for an aggregate period of 7 years to become one. Otherwise, you'd have to have an early opt out option, or get cut from the team.

TerraFirma still retains Adams' rights: https://twitter.com/gerardmos/status/1484068212811583488?t=pwGEeS2B0BdAGPiPebPMbg&s=19

Looks like opting out does not necessarily make the UFA period kick in. They're really applying the 7-year rule.

 

[IPC2]

Because the very system of PBA is flawed. Almost games happen in Metro Manila or in Yñares. Teamnames are products of a company. PBA should encourage less popular teams like Phoenix, ROS, Alaska, NLEX and Meralco to adopt a province for purpose of creating their respective fanbases. Kasi naman, who really wants to support a team of powder-filled milk, a house paint, or gas station? Things will be different if they put names of provinces in their team.

Pampanga NLEX Road Warriors
Caloocan Meralco Bolts
Laguna Alaska Aces
Bulacan Rain or Shine Elasto Painters
Batangas Phoenix Fuel Masters

No need for more popular teams like Ginebra, SMB, Magnolia and TNT to adapt a province since they have already big fanbases.

Per venue:

NLEX - Bren Z. Guiao Sports Complex and Convention Center - 3,000 seats
Meralco - Caloocan Sports Complex - 3,000 seaters
Alaska - Alonte Sports Arena - 6,500 seaters
ROS - Baliuag Star Arena - 5,000 seaters
Phoenix - Batangas City Coliseum - 5,000 seaters

Even if you reach you don"t reach 10k in gate attendance, if you get these smaller arenas jampacked every game, you can generate good revenue. For me, hybrid regionalization will do.

According to this article, Kume Marcial said the PBA had plans of regionalization, but they'll experiment with the D-League first: https://www.dugout.ph/2022/01/plan-to-turn-d-league-regional.html?m=1

Kume said that once the regionalization plan works in the D-League, then they will they do it with the PBA itself.

 

[IPC2]

Good news that the PBA is saying that they will adjust the calendar for the EASL. The second step would be to allow imports to play in the PBA for the entire season without a height limit and relegate the All-Filipino to the offseason. Another would be to classify naturalized Filipinos as locals under the Fil-foreigner limit. This should help our teams compete there, as a start.

This EASL tournament would provide a second playoffs for PBA teams and the PBA would get a cut. It's gonna be like a 3-conference format, but more suitable for international competition (either between clubs or national teams).

So here it is: https://www.pba.ph/news/pba-kicks-off-easl-campaign-on-the-road

The PBA say that they will give the participating teams leeway. The participating teams won't have games for one week.

Plus, I think the EASL will have to be coterminous with the import conference, and that import conference must not have a height limit. Our teams will have it easier there as an effect, especially the participating teams. Better sana if it's a single-season format, with imports for the whole year. The EASL is held from October to March, which is pretty much almost a whole season's length, so the import tournament has to be held this whole time.

 

[ja.he2]

According to this article, Kume Marcial said the PBA had plans of regionalization, but they'll experiment with the D-League first: https://www.dugout.ph/2022/01/plan-to-turn-d-league-regional.html?m=1

Kume said that once the regionalization plan works in the D-League, then they will they do it with the PBA itself.

Actually, they have this wrong notion in setting-up regional leagues. Why go full-blast Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao when logistics are too costly? Why not try it first in Metro Manila, CALABARZON, Central Luzon and Baguio City? These areas are all connected by expressways so logistics should not be a challenge.

Tsaka na nila isipin ang Visayas at Mindanao if they already figure it out how to make it possible with less cost.

Also, they should try it first to less popular teams.