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Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

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ja.he said:
If I were Alaska, I'll get Seraj.
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I think Alaska could use another development project. Although, with that bigman depth, he might not see much playing time in import conferences, unless he can play both 4 and 5.
 
robert0326 said:
Or Frank Golla, 6'5 stretch big that can hit 3 pt shots.. If they knew this situation, they will trade Brondial rather than Ebona.... Tips now for other teams that were unfavor of these UFA situation, give them early contract and if they decline the contract, Teams should trade them atleast lesser value (kahit 2nd round lang) rather than nothing.. In case for Banchero, If he declines, If i were Phoenix then trade him already, rather than losing for nothing... Example was Cstand conflict contract w/ Northport.. NP trade him already for Greg rather than they will let him go nothing....
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Alaska might be like a farm team in the future if this keeps up.
 
Silent Killer said:
difference is smb’s offer has under the table deal in comparison with alaska’s offer..
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Speaking of under the table deals, I wonder if those are subject to income tax. If they are, whoo, this can be some form of tax evasion. Non-declaration of the under the table benefits (if taxable) may count as intent to avoid tax, an essential element in tax evasion.

There might be an argument that this can be a tax avoidance scheme. Tax avoidance is a legal means of avoiding tax.

Anyways, I digress. If the under the table benefits are ruled as part of taxable compensation, the team will have to declare it as salary, which might lead to salary cap complications.
 
IPC said:
Speaking of under the table deals, I wonder if those are subject to income tax. If they are, whoo, this can be some form of tax evasion. Non-declaration of the under the table benefits (if taxable) may count as intent to avoid tax, an essential element in tax evasion.

There might be an argument that this can be a tax avoidance scheme. Tax avoidance is a legal means of avoiding tax.

Anyways, I digress. If the under the table benefits are ruled as part of taxable compensation, the team will have to declare it as salary, which might lead to salary cap complications.
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When companies gift cars to employees. Its still under the name of company so no taxable income for employees. Could be fringe benefits. Multi-national Companies can just insert this expenses to representation expense, miscellaneous which can reach millions if not billions.
 
zairex said:
When companies gift cars to employees. Its still under the name of company so no taxable income for employees. Could be fringe benefits. Multi-national Companies can just insert this expenses to representation expense, miscellaneous which can reach millions if not billions.
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Yeah, that is fringe benefits under the company. That's taxable, but not to the employee. The employer pays the tax, I think. Of course, with exceptions.

So applying it to PBA teams, it's probable that the under the table benefits might go to fringe benefits, which are taxable, but under the company's name. It's not employee income, so to speak. Problem is if said benefits are unreasonably high, if I remember correctly.
 
IPC said:
Speaking of under the table deals, I wonder if those are subject to income tax. If they are, whoo, this can be some form of tax evasion. Non-declaration of the under the table benefits (if taxable) may count as intent to avoid tax, an essential element in tax evasion.

There might be an argument that this can be a tax avoidance scheme. Tax avoidance is a legal means of avoiding tax.

Anyways, I digress. If the under the table benefits are ruled as part of taxable compensation, the team will have to declare it as salary, which might lead to salary cap complications.
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just remembered that SMB's Assistant GM David Henares is married to former BIR Commissioner Kim Henares, who happens to be a big fan of the beermen. not implying anything just stating facts

 
Little by Little, Pba is embracing change and adaption. I know we kinda hate pba here in ibn. But I give credit when it will be due.

Applying concepts from NBA is a good idea.

Like this Free Agency thing. At least all teams can pick up potential talents in FA market. And who knows, maybe in the future, like in nba, some pba superstars will enter FA market too.

Some Changes I would recommend in relation to FA.

1. Salary Cap,Soft Cap, and Hard Cap - These are all important concepts in Nba FA period. So Great teams cant just sign every superstar. I know pba has salary cap now, but I think they should be stricter in thar aspect.

2. Bird Rights - so that the team that (Player A) played for , for atleast 3 years, can have an advantage.

And now, pba is planning or talking at least about expanding the market thru EASL and Excgange programs.

This is gut feeling, but I think even the Pba Heads are reading, and knows the fans' demands in pba. Lol.

But it is in their hands if they will do it
 
The rich will become richer in this free agency. Teams willing to pay will get the top free agents.
 
NOiNU said:
The rich will become richer in this free agency. Teams willing to pay will get the top free agents.
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I prefer this one than deceiving the public with dubious trades and annual drafts that don't serve the purpose.

Free agency is a straight forward, no non-sense approach, imo. Just implement the anti-tampering rule and the salary cap, though.
 
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NOiNU said:
The rich will become richer in this free agency. Teams willing to pay will get the top free agents.
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i think the best way to address this would be through a luxury tax similar to the NBA. Yes bigger teams can overspend to keep their players with bird rights but they ought to pay a fine/penalty per peso they exceeded the cap. (i.e. if a team exceeds Php 10 million in the salary cap, they also pay the same amount as tax/penalty)
 
ja.he said:
I prefer this one than deceiving the public with dubious trades and annual drafts that don't serve the purpose.

Free agent is a straight forward, no non-sense approach imo. Just implement the anti-tampering rule and the salary cap, though.
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The imports' salary should also be included in the salary cap, in my opinion.
 
CoJ said:
i think the best way to address this would be through a luxury tax similar to the NBA. Yes bigger teams can overspend to keep their players with bird rights but they ought to pay a fine/penalty per peso they exceeded the cap. (i.e. if a team exceeds Php 10 million in the salary cap, they also pay the same amount as tax/penalty)
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I like this idea. If everything would just be transparent, this policy can be executed properly and could serve as a means to deter talent-hoarding clubs from doing their thing that's clearly detrimental to the league's parity. Also, said tax must be shared equally among the non-violators of the luxury tax rule.
 
Ricky Vargas hopes that naturalized players who played for Gilas can play in the PBA someday: http://tbti.me/s20dt8

I think this could be an option. However, the NP should take one of the Fil-foreigner slots so that we can still have more room for locals.

All our NPs in recent memory have been 7-foot centers (Douthit, Blatche, Kouame). I hope they can play in All-Filipino tournaments so that we can get used to seeing more 7-foot centers around. Our players might figure out a way to score over them, and our local taller bigs might (and, in my opinion, should) figure out a way to play alongside them.
 
ja.he said:
I prefer this one than deceiving the public with dubious trades and annual drafts that don't serve the purpose.

Free agency is a straight forward, no non-sense approach, imo. Just implement the anti-tampering rule and the salary cap, though.
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What salary cap? They are still deceiving the public pretending these players are paid within the cap.

Don’t get me wrong, I like that players get to be free in choosing the teams they wan’t to play for. But this further widens the gap of team strengths in terms of talent. We can only hope there are a lot of players with principle and integrity that’s willing to concede more money to play for the team they really like.
 
CoJ said:
i think the best way to address this would be through a luxury tax similar to the NBA. Yes bigger teams can overspend to keep their players with bird rights but they ought to pay a fine/penalty per peso they exceeded the cap. (i.e. if a team exceeds Php 10 million in the salary cap, they also pay the same amount as tax/penalty)
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Nice idea but I doubt this will ever happen. SMC and MVP groups for sure would not be amenable to this as it means spending a lot more. We all know these teams are the biggest spenders, particularly SMB and Ginebra.

An alternative is to have an NBL like tier system of talents to achieve some semblance of parity. Any idea though, that challenges the status quo and puts the top teams’ hoarding of talents at risk should be considered far fetched.
 
CoJ said:
i think the best way to address this would be through a luxury tax similar to the NBA. Yes bigger teams can overspend to keep their players with bird rights but they ought to pay a fine/penalty per peso they exceeded the cap. (i.e. if a team exceeds Php 10 million in the salary cap, they also pay the same amount as tax/penalty)
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But they can use Bird rights with only the players that have stayed with them for 3 straight years or more, and those players should not leave their previous teams via free agency.
 
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