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Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

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Nah, its not about respect for authority. Its because the media already portrayed brp as a diva and people just ate that up. His “lie” didnt help his case. Also, noone’s calling out the pba owner’s behaviors.
 
lurklurk said:
Did i say anything not factual? Stop being a fan if you’ll just get butthurt when someone is pointing out your team’s cancerous transactions.
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Ha? Did i say it is is not factual?

I even admittted its factual.

GINEBRA HAS DONE MULTIPLE UNFAIR TRADES

GINEBRA HAS DONE MULTIPLE UNFAIR TRADES.

I am aware of that. Me and IPC are aware of that bro.


You are hating me because I am Ginebra fan?

So all Ginebra fans is your enemy now???

Anyway, This is nonsense bro.

Lets go back to normal basketball topic
 
robert0326 said:
Another Ray Parks issue.. Hope Ray Parks speaks and defend himself to the public.. If he wants to be traded then tell it professionally and nicely.. It also stated here that it is clear that Parks can't play abroad w/o SBP's clearance.. So what now Parks? You have a talent, Don't waste it.. Sayang kikitain mo sa PBA if you act that way.. Many players wants your position even it is hard, but you already there.. Talk to MVP, Chot and TNT management nicely..

https://sports.inquirer.net/418201/...DXH552Zl0LcfWPfSuOkSAE_TNI#Echobox=1616016221
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what a stupid f'n league. he's an UNRESTRICTED FA for chrissakes. he should be able to do whatever he wants. smh. union should step up and defend parks but it doesn't seem like he has many friends.

i hate how SMC has been shitting on the NT and the league with their lopsided trades but i really hope parks ends up with a SMC team.
 
dubidub said:
what a stupid f'n league. he's an UNRESTRICTED FA for chrissakes. he should be able to do whatever he wants. smh. union should step up and defend parks but it doesn't seem like he has many friends.

i hate how SMC has been shitting on the NT and the league with their lopsided trades but i really hope parks ends up with a SMC team.
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This is a big difference between NBA and PBA.

In nba, ufa is free to go. Rfa is free to go if orig team cannot match.

In pba, ufa player rights still remain to orig team?

Is there even a Players Union in Pba? Nba Players' Union is powerful lead by Pres CP3.

In Pba, Players are just puppet of the owners and board.

Sir Ricky Vargas shouldn't have said that. It shows that board is united in controlling players
 
robert0326 said:
He's still restricted as he hasn't comply 7 years in the PBA...
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Oh. Ok but still.

That statement by sir ricky vargas is really not right.

Anyway, it looks like he admitted pba boards are united to control players. As I said.

" I challenge him to offer his services to other team" (What?)

This shows that even SMC and MVP Pba Board Governor is united in this issue
 
robert0326 said:
This is the problem if the league is product based, Not a city based.. If we say Parks did is OK.. Did you see that many players will follow in says "Gayahin ko nga si Parks at para makalaro ako sa favorite kong team Ginebra".. Do you think this is OK for the league? How many players now did AWOL since Narvasa era? And Parks' management team did is an unprofessional way.. He (or his agent) should go directly to TNT management to clear the issue and if he wants to be traded then tell them in a good way.. And even in the NBA, players there still need to wait for their 7 year tenure in the league before being UFA...
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Parks is taking a massive L on his bank account the more he holds out. Thats fair, not every player can do that. Now if SMC/MVP starts paying players to hold out then we have a problem but its ok for players to hold out.
 
robert0326 said:
He's still restricted as he hasn't comply 7 years in the PBA...
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Ah really? I remember sone former pros defend Parks saying he's a UFA. If he's RFA, i don't know why MVP camp is burning bridges when they can match whatever offer.
 
mathematicianrcg said:
This is a big difference between NBA and PBA.

In nba, ufa is free to go. Rfa is free to go if orig team cannot match.

In pba, ufa player rights still remain to orig team?

Is there even a Players Union in Pba? Nba Players' Union is powerful lead by Pres CP3.

In Pba, Players are just puppet of the owners and board.

Sir Ricky Vargas shouldn't have said that. It shows that board is united in controlling players
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Yeah. PBA has lots of rules like UFA, RFA, Salary Cap... which only applies to some teams.
 
robert0326 said:
But we are complaining about the balancing the level playing field of all of teams in the PBA.. If Parks did will be successful then other players will might follow suit.. We all know maybe 60% of basketball fans here is avid Ginebra fan.. Imagine the likes of Newsome (admit that he is a Ginebra fan), Pogoy (also a Ginebra fan), Nambatac (also a Ginebra fan), Jalalon (Ginebra fan also) will also do this because they want to play for Ginebra before finishing their careers.. Do you think this is OK for you? Because you says it's OK to players to hold out their playing year (or sit out) then they will do ala Ray Parks route and demanding a trade to their favorite teams.. Buti kung sana existing talaga salary cap in the PBA.. That is not fair especially to other teams, particularly Independent teams.. This is not NBA that teams following salary cap and all of the teams have already real fan base in each state/city because this is city state teams.. While PBA is product based teams.. teams likes Ginebra have clearly advantage of this situation because majority of all players wants to play for Ginebra..
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Then why doesn't TNT complain against SMC's transgressions? Ah kasi they're also guilty?

Of course they'll pick on Parks because he's easier to defeat as opposed to SMC.
 
If Parks really wanted a trade to SMC then he should ask instead of what he is doing right now but we dont really what he wants since for now what he is only asking for publicly is a break.
 
Sikatrix said:
If Parks really wanted a trade to SMC then he should ask instead of what he is doing right now but we dont really what he wants since for now what he is only asking for publicly is a break.
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His situation with his BW was suspicious though. Does he really want to play in the PBA? If he really does want to play for SMC that bad from the start then what are the chances that he intentionally dropped some games against them? This whole thing warrants a deep investigation IMO.
 
The issue of parks will be settled by just proving tht he doesnt want to be traded.. mind games is on..
 
robert0326 said:
They can match the offer.. The problem is now on Parks wanting to play for Ginebra.. That is no secret.. Buti kung sana if they trade Parks to Ginebra eh they can get some marquee players from Ginebra.. I don't care Parks going to Ginebra.. But sana it should be fair transaction.. May Pringle at Cstand na sa Ginebra, May Japeth pa.. you also have Tenorio and Scottie... you also have MIP winner Caperal.. then adding Parks on this current Ginebra roster is already overkill.. Yes TNT has strong starting 5.. but they have a weaker bench because kahit paano they still follow salary cap rules, sacrifice na ang bench players because expensive na ang starting 5 roster.. But tutuusin Erram is not yet max salary, maybe even Rosario and Pogoy (although Pogoy should now receive max contract).. It's only Castro, Parks are max salary.. Yes, TNT can trade Parks to other teams than Ginebra.. But dun din babagsak yan because Parks wants only Ginebra!!! Ganun din gagawin ni Parks sa ibang teams.. because he's diva and he wants Ginebra only.. Yun ang hindi pwede!!! Ginebra should sacrifice either Pringle, Japeth or Cstand to get Parks.. Ganun dapat.. We should also value the leveling the playing field..
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Well, it's TNT's problem if they can't get something of equivalent value. If its Ginebra, they can always ask for Scottie or Pringle or Art+Arvin+Caperal+future first round picks, whatever. If Ginebra doesn't approve any, TNT can switch to other SMC teams, or even its farm teams. In the end, TNT should make sure to get itself "compensated" for trading away BRP and not derail his career.
 
robert0326 said:
What i mean is even let's say TNT trade Parks already to other teams outside Ginebra.. Let's say ROS.. Then in ROS, he will might do it again and asking again for a trade.. Di na tama yun.. He should be a professional even he's not in Ginebra jersey.. He can wait until his 7th year before he can go to his preferred destination..
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Then it's ROS or any other PBA team's problem then, assuming they get BRP from TNT, then after 1 whole season or perhaps a conference or 2 (this should be enforced by PBA, no hold-outs, no career derailing) decides to trade with SMC teams and not get any of the players that I mentioned above. At least that delays the league parity's total demise for another year. What I'm trying to say here is that the league and its fans are going to miss out on bonafide or continental-level talent (not just Parks, but also on the upcoming ones whether homegrown or overseas-based) if they choose to be close-minded about this issue.
 
IMO, i'll just trade Parks to Northport in exchange of Navarro, Ferrer and a 1st round pick. That's the alternative pathway for Parks to join Ginebra.
 
Let's all please understand that Parks need to have a contract first with TNT before they can trade him away. I think the Navarro+Future 1 rounder will be a good trade but considering the Navarro cannot be employed until 2023, they may opt for another serviceable player from Northport and downgrade the 1st rd pick to a 2nd rounder.
 
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