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Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

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I also hope that the PBA goes in this direction. We should actually be the ones to embrace it (switching, small-ball) because with our size, or lack thereof, well, ayun. Also, it helps the small-ball fours adjust to playing the 3.

There's a chance that the Gilas cadets may play some form of small-ball and positionless baksetball, with the switching. If they win with that style, maybe it can catch on.


I hope I am wrong, But I think there is no way Pba will allow this college players to be the Champions against their Players.

"especially with the immature remark of coach tab in pba coaches"

Actually, I don't think, even the call is fair, will not be enough to beat strong pba teams in a series.

But that is only my feeling.

And good luck with that " PBA WILL ADJUST THE RULES FOR CADETS, AND NOT CHANGE THE RULES TO PROTECT SMC TEAMS"
 
I'm kinda worried the Gilas cadets will just get physically beat up and abused by the PBA vets if Gilas indeed joins the PBA tournament. Remember Gilas 1 and the Burger King game incident? The physicality from Yeng's team is out of control and outright dirty. Don't get me wrong, I think Gilas will probably be one of the contenders for the championship if they join the tournament. They are that talented not to mention coached really well. Pero, let's not think na magpapatalo ang mga PBA vets sa mga bata/rookies. They'll do everyhing they can and I mean everything to win. Not to mention it gives the opposing coaches a chance to "get revenge" at Tab for his comments about Local coaching. More ammo for them.

 
Yep. I couldn't see the logic of PBA teams being afraid of Kouame who is just a college player and way younger than the PBA players

When the NCC basketball team joined the PBA in 3 conferences starting in 1984, they were allowed to suit up naturalized players Jeff Moore and Chip Engelland.

They first participated in the first 2 conferences of the 1984 season - both of which were All Filipino. You can see the disparity of the experience and skill level of the pros when NCC couldn't crack the Finals for both conferences. Curiously though, Ron Jacobs kept complaining that the calls were heavily favoring the PBA teams - to which, this Crispa fan then, would agree. I remember a quote mentioned by then Assistant Commissioner Tommy Manotoc - "in case of doubt, make the call in favor of the PBA team." Simply put, if it's a borderline call between a charging or a blocking foul, the call would most likely be in favor of the PBA team. No way the PBA would allow an all-amateur team to embarrass the professional players by winning the championship. They didn't, and in the 2nd conference, Jacobs lambasted the officiating when it lost to Beer Hausen in the knockout game for the right to face Great Taste in the Finals. True enough, the calls were totally lopsided in favor of the Brewmasters. But as they say today - "it is what it is..."

Jacobs, in protest, deliberately didn't field in any of his naturalized players in the series for 3rd place versus Tanduay, resulting to lopsided losses in the first 2 games (margins of 14 and 32 points, respectively). In Game 2, a rookie named Dennis Abbatuan playing for Tanduay scored 51 points, to heighten Jacobs' protest. When Manotoc gave Jacobs a severe warning prior to Game 3 to give their best, Jacobs unleashed the NCC might and clobbered the Rhum Makers in Game 3 by 38 points with Chip Engelland scoring 60 points. Too bad though there was no Game 4 as the championship series already concluded after 3 games, with Great Taste sweeping Beer Hausen. As such, they ended the series with Tanduay winning, 2-1.

But in 1985, when NCC played once more in the 3rd Conference, and fielding Moore and Still (Engelland was ineligible to play in the up and coming ABC so Jacobs opted not to include him in the roster), no amount of tilting the odds in favor of the PBA teams when it came to officiating could stop the mighty national team from winning the Reinforced Conference. They swept the Manila Beer Brewmasters, 4-0, in what is still regarded as the most lopsided Finals series in PBA history. The average winning margin? 25.5 points, including 2 games by 37 and 32 points. Note that the PBA teams were reinforced with an import no taller than 6'5. Which only goes to show how vastly improved NCC was in a year's time - not being able to beat PBA teams without imports the year before to dominating the league the year after even with import-laced PBA teams.

Which leads me to my point - if the PBA could do that 36 years ago, why worry about losing to the national team this year? Kouame is just one import, sure he's 6'10, maybe 6'11, but it's not like we don't have locals who are as tall as him. In the 80's, the tallest local player was Romy Mamaril at 6'6, and yet, they were able to go toe-to-toe with the national team. Fernandez was especially exceptional that year, averaging a near triple double for the entire year (27 points, 15 boards, 9.9 dimes) and not even the naturalized Americans can stop him.

Let them go toe-to-toe. You prevent Kouame from playing and you're not lending your full support to the national cause, especially since Kouame is expected to be a key player for the team. Or are they afraid that Tab Baldwin may prove everyone that he was correct all along with his alleged vitriolic statements?

By the way, I haven't read anything about the PBA teams not wanting Kouame to play so if anyone would be kind to provide the link, it'll be appreciated.
 
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I'm kinda worried the Gilas cadets will just get physically beat up and abused by the PBA vets if Gilas indeed joins the PBA tournament. Remember Gilas 1 and the Burger King game incident? The physicality from Yeng's team is out of control and outright dirty. Don't get me wrong, I think will probably one of the contenders for the championship if they join the tournament. They are that talented not to mention coached really well. Pero, let's not think na magpapatalo ang mga PBA vets sa mga bata/rookies. They'll do everyhing they can and I mean everything to win. Not to mention it gives the opposing coaches a chance to "get revenge" at Tab for his comments about Local coaching. More ammo for them.


What are the chances that long hair and his super friends putting a hit on the cadets? Time to sign Nabong?
 
What are the chances that long hair and his super friends putting a hit on the cadets? Time to sign Nabong?

unretire arboleda and mamaril as well and you get the perfect hit squad..

aside from long hair im sure Yeng is planning to dish out the pain against the cadets, he wont allow a foreign coach to beat him
 
unretire arboleda and mamaril as well and you get the perfect hit squad..

aside from long hair im sure Yeng is planning to dish out the pain against the cadets, he wont allow a foreign coach to beat him

But coach Yeng's big boss is the benefactor of the Gilas cadet program, right?
 
But coach Yeng's big boss is the benefactor of the Gilas cadet program, right?

that's why im hoping he won't do anything dangerous, but you know Yeng, independent and is affiliated/key member of BCAP

edit: suddenly i remember how physical the NLEX-TNT game during the PBA bubble
 
Manuel staying put at Alaska

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/vic-manuel-close-to-sealing-alaska-deal-on-contract-extension-a791-20210209?utm_source=Facebook-Spin&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20210209-fbnp-basketball-vic-manuel-close-to-sealing-alaska-deal-on-contract-extension-a791-20210209-fbfirst

A new deal will put a happy ending to a tumultuous offseason for Manuel, who, frustrated by what he felt was Alaska's passive attitude towards his contract extension, expressed a desire to be shipped out to another ballclub.

Sources bared Alaska did listen to offers from some teams, specifically Meralco and NLEX as well as NorthPort and a few teams from the San Miguel Corp. bloc.

No deal was sealed, although the Bolts appeared to be the most persistent, offering Baser Amer and another key player for Manuel. Sources bared negotiations broke down when the Aces asked for Raymond Almazan in return.
 
Bill Bayno is resigning his job as nba assistant, maybe he wants to go back in coaching tnt.. trivia.. when bayno coach unly way way back his top point guard goes by the name of... Mark Dickel..
 
Bill Bayno is resigning his job as nba assistant, maybe he wants to go back in coaching tnt.. trivia.. when bayno coach unly way way back his top point guard goes by the name of... Mark Dickel..

Bayno had top PG when he coached tnt and his name is kenny evans hehe
 
BCAP will not allow him.. hehehehehehe!! CYG, Long Hair and the rest of BCAP don't like foreign coaches..

and Bill Bayno had to address some personal problems which resulted to the deterioration of his mental health, dealing with BCAP would just further his agony.I wish the best for the guy
 
I think Coach Jong is technically the coach.

Well, what doesn't kill you make you stronger, hope the cadets would learn and survive the expected physical beatings from the PBA teams. If there is one thing the Philippines is excelling in the basketball world its rough housing/ borderline dirty plays.
 
Manuel staying put at Alaska

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/vic-manuel-close-to-sealing-alaska-deal-on-contract-extension-a791-20210209?utm_source=Facebook-Spin&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20210209-fbnp-basketball-vic-manuel-close-to-sealing-alaska-deal-on-contract-extension-a791-20210209-fbfirst

A new deal will put a happy ending to a tumultuous offseason for Manuel, who, frustrated by what he felt was Alaska's passive attitude towards his contract extension, expressed a desire to be shipped out to another ballclub.

Sources bared Alaska did listen to offers from some teams, specifically Meralco and NLEX as well as NorthPort and a few teams from the San Miguel Corp. bloc.

No deal was sealed, although the Bolts appeared to be the most persistent, offering Baser Amer and another key player for Manuel. Sources bared negotiations broke down when the Aces asked for Raymond Almazan in return.

probably sign and trade scenario. very likely he will be traded its just alaska making sure they get something in return.
 
I’m hoping alaska would trade him.
As for Vic, he shoud’ve demanded trade request two years ago coz he’s more valuable that time.
It’s like he could only land on meralco, north port and phoenix not to SMC teams.
 
I hope I am wrong, But I think there is no way Pba will allow this college players to be the Champions against their Players.

"especially with the immature remark of coach tab in pba coaches"

Actually, I don't think, even the call is fair, will not be enough to beat strong pba teams in a series.

But that is only my feeling.

And good luck with that " PBA WILL ADJUST THE RULES FOR CADETS, AND NOT CHANGE THE RULES TO PROTECT SMC TEAMS"

Tignan natin. Tab's won three UAAP championships with an Ateneo team consisting of mostly role players, and he beat more talented squads in DLSU and UP. I think he can at least go toe-to-to against Ginebra, TNT, and probably even SMB (though I'm probably reaching at this point).
 
Tignan natin. Tab's won three UAAP championships with an Ateneo team consisting of mostly role players, and he beat more talented squads in DLSU and UP. I think he can at least go toe-to-to against Ginebra, TNT, and probably even SMB (though I'm probably reaching at this point).

lol if only people knew how bcap and super friends breathing down tabs neck. poor tab never got to show his worth in tnt and wasnt able to fully run the program he had planned.
 
I’m hoping alaska would trade him.
As for Vic, he shoud’ve demanded trade request two years ago coz he’s more valuable that time.
It’s like he could only land on meralco, north port and phoenix not to SMC teams.

Dude, North Port is a SMC team hehe
 
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