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CoJ2
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which is also the case this year right?
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which is also the case this year right?
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CoJ2
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Pretty obvious they can enlist mocha trolls and DDS since they are very much influential to the government right now and given special preference in all projects. But the damage is done. Allot are now turn off to watch PBA. And will just support the national team.
unfortunately those who still watch the pba still outnumber those who are turned off , mind you SMC teams have the most fans in the league, while meralco and nlex are the usual suspects for empty arena matches, along with bwe and terrafirma..
despite our frustrations the PBA will still go on and generate money, nakalimutan na nga ng typical pba fan yung FIBA worlds disaster
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lurklurk2
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The reask why belo was traded its because tnt will trade rosario to bwe for trollano, amer and might even include shaw in there, they have length with magaat and taha back then its just that dicket and tab cannot able to do it.. dun sila na outmatch ni tim cone..piso piso play lang ang kailangan gawin ni japeth for him to be effective..
Not a wise decision if tnt push through with this. They have to give that core enough time to gel before they decide to trade pieces. That was literally their first conference together and they only lost to a Ginebra team whose core is already together for years. I think they should just retool from the draft (get some legit 3&d wings and rim protectors) and try again this coming conference.
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lurklurk2
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Erram was outplayed by Japeth, but not by much. It was Troy that was soundly outplayed. Got outplayed by Perkins, and then Aljon Mariano, except for that Game 3 where he dominated inside.
Troy need to stop trying to be the next rdo and be the next jwash instead. If troy can execute that two man game with castro/parks similar to how jwash does it, he’ll be invaluable.
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lurklurk2
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No need to take Amer as of now..
Agree with this. TNT wants the ball in parks’s hands most of the time, and playing non-traditional point guards (enciso, montalbo) alongside parks work well for this. I dont understand the fuss about trollano, i think there are better wing prospects in the draft.
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thatweirdguy2
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Agree with this. TNT wants the ball in parks’s hands most of the time, and playing non-traditional point guards (enciso, montalbo) alongside parks work well for this. I dont understand the fuss about trollano, i think there are better wing prospects in the draft.
Amer is a goot set shooter and passer. He could definitely fit in with those guys. Trollano fits their system and wouldn't take shots from Parks. He could also defend imports. I think it depends on who they ship out
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IPC2
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Troy need to stop trying to be the next rdo and be the next jwash instead. If troy can execute that two man game with castro/parks similar to how jwash does it, he’ll be invaluable.
Actually, he's more like J-Wash than RDO right now, with the way TNT's using him. Troy doesn't have RDO's versatility offensively.
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Trae Yong2
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Amer is a goot set shooter and passer. He could definitely fit in with those guys. Trollano fits their system and wouldn't take shots from Parks. He could also defend imports. I think it depends on who they ship out
problem is amer can't even guard his shadow if his life depended on it
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PUGOtipm2
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unfortunately those who still watch the pba still outnumber those who are turned off , mind you SMC teams have the most fans in the league, while meralco and nlex are the usual suspects for empty arena matches, along with bwe and terrafirma..
despite our frustrations the PBA will still go on and generate money, nakalimutan na nga ng typical pba fan yung FIBA worlds disaster
Yeah. Kung pagiging Ginebra fan lang naipamana sayo ng mga magulang mo hanggang mamatay ipaglalaban mo talaga ang Ginebra. And with worst those fans even if their team is already loaded they still want the best rookie prospects to be with their team.
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yogaflame2
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Yeah. Kung pagiging Ginebra fan lang naipamana sayo ng mga magulang mo hanggang mamatay ipaglalaban mo talaga ang Ginebra. And with worst those fans even if their team is already loaded they still want the best rookie prospects to be with their team.
SMC and GSM fans , only believe that basketball world only exist in PBA.
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CoJ2
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stupid question, has TNT given up on Troy Rosario already? his name has been actively mentioned in trade rumors. too bad he is still relatively young and about to enter his prime years. personally i will. ot give him up for Trollano, (still don't understand the hype behind him, scrappy player yes but not on the same level as rosario)
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Jomar092
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Troy need to stop trying to be the next rdo and be the next jwash instead. If troy can execute that two man game with castro/parks similar to how jwash does it, he’ll be invaluable.
This is interesting. Come to think of it, RDO is a tough act to follow. He's one of the greatest PBA players.
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mathematicianrcg2
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It hurts because I am a ginebra fan.
But I know SMC really fleeced trades.
But can we blame them?
Like Eala said, Companies will do everyting to make their team stronger. It is up to pba and commisioner to balance the trade.
Let's face it. For ex. You are a GM of a team. If you will make trades, you will only think about your team if that will make you stronger.
Will you really care for the other team if thet improved or not? Of course not, it is none of your business. Your job is to make your team stronger, nothing else.
So, I know SMC REALLY FLEECED TRADES THRU THEIR FARM TEAM. THEY SHOULD BE BLAMED PARTLY ALSO.
BUT THE REAL PERSON AND COMMITEE TO BLAME HERE IS PBA AND MARCIAL, IT IS THEIR JOB TO VETO TRADES. IF THEY ARE VULNERABLE, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
@IPC, you are a lawyer right? Is there any law we can enforce about Farm Teams Fleeced trades?
But I know SMC really fleeced trades.
But can we blame them?
Like Eala said, Companies will do everyting to make their team stronger. It is up to pba and commisioner to balance the trade.
Let's face it. For ex. You are a GM of a team. If you will make trades, you will only think about your team if that will make you stronger.
Will you really care for the other team if thet improved or not? Of course not, it is none of your business. Your job is to make your team stronger, nothing else.
So, I know SMC REALLY FLEECED TRADES THRU THEIR FARM TEAM. THEY SHOULD BE BLAMED PARTLY ALSO.
BUT THE REAL PERSON AND COMMITEE TO BLAME HERE IS PBA AND MARCIAL, IT IS THEIR JOB TO VETO TRADES. IF THEY ARE VULNERABLE, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
@IPC, you are a lawyer right? Is there any law we can enforce about Farm Teams Fleeced trades?
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JAMSKIE2
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SMC and GSM fans , only believe that basketball world only exist in PBA.
Mga taong mababaw ang kaligayahan at pananaw sa mundo. Sadly, they make up the majority of Philippine basketball community.
Ginebra fans would be ecstatic seeing their favorite team win several championships & would care less about Gilas
That's what I call "bakya" mentality.
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Jomar092
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Problem with TNT is they don't have a reliable bench. After Jwash, RReyes and Enciso, there's not much talent there. If they can snatch a utility-wing like Trollano and another low=profile serviceable big to help Erram, Troy and JWash, (like a Ponferada/ Baclao/ Faundo/ Brondial, perhaps) they'll play better.
Their guards are all set. Additional Wings and Big men are badly needed.
Their guards are all set. Additional Wings and Big men are badly needed.
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Jomar092
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It hurts because I am a ginebra fan.
But I know SMC really fleeced trades.
But can we blame them?
Like Eala said, Companies will do everyting to make their team stronger. It is up to pba and commisioner to balance the trade.
Let's face it. For ex. You are a GM of a team. If you will make trades, you will only think about your team if that will make you stronger.
Will you really care for the other team if thet improved or not? Of course not, it is none of your business. Your job is to make your team stronger, nothing else.
So, I know SMC REALLY FLEECED TRADES THRU THEIR FARM TEAM. THEY SHOULD BE BLAMED PARTLY ALSO.
BUT THE REAL PERSON AND COMMITEE TO BLAME HERE IS PBA AND MARCIAL, IT IS THEIR JOB TO VETO TRADES. IF THEY ARE VULNERABLE, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
@IPC, you are a lawyer right? Is there any law we can enforce about Farm Teams Fleeced trades?
SMC basketball leadership are very able. Ironically, these schemes could have started as early as the Eala-era as the SMC basketball boss.
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mathematicianrcg2
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Mga taong mababaw ang kaligayahan at pananaw sa mundo. Sadly, they make up the majority of Philippine basketball community.
Ginebra fans would be ecstatic seeing their favorite team win several championships & would care less about Gilas
That's what I call "bakya" mentality.
Ouch. Please dont generalize
I am a ginebra fan. Of course I will be happy to see them win championships.
But it hurts for me that Gilas is suffering because if long hair and SMC.
I am a ginebra fan. But also a Gilas Fan.
And it will always be Country Over Club for me any time
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JAMSKIE2
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It hurts because I am a ginebra fan.
But I know SMC really fleeced trades.
But can we blame them?
Like Eala said, Companies will do everyting to make their team stronger. It is up to pba and commisioner to balance the trade.
Let's face it. For ex. You are a GM of a team. If you will make trades, you will only think about your team if that will make you stronger.
Will you really care for the other team if thet improved or not? Of course not, it is none of your business. Your job is to make your team stronger, nothing else.
So, I know SMC REALLY FLEECED TRADES THRU THEIR FARM TEAM. THEY SHOULD BE BLAMED PARTLY ALSO.
BUT THE REAL PERSON AND COMMITEE TO BLAME HERE IS PBA AND MARCIAL, IT IS THEIR JOB TO VETO TRADES. IF THEY ARE VULNERABLE, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
@IPC, you are a lawyer right? Is there any law we can enforce about Farm Teams Fleeced trades?
Bro, SMC teams can strengthen their respective rosters naman by indulging in much fairer trades than they have been doing lately. I'm lost for words in describing how lopsided the CJ Perez trade. Its like SMB got themselves a brand new Rolex wristwatch by giving away a few cans of sardines. Its a shitty trade. Its a trade hatched in hell.
I'm fine with SMC teams indulging in trades na mejo lopsided ng kunti. Ganoon talaga eh. Pero huwag namang masyadong lopsided like that recent trade involving CJ Perez na halos nakuha ng SMB si Perez while giving up almost nothing.
Subrang nagpataba yung SMB while making other teams malnurished.
With these shitty trades, eh bakit pa maglalaro ang PBA teams? Alam na natin kung anong teams ang maglalaban sa champion eh. Dapat deretso nalang cguro sa semis. Wala ng elims or quarterfinals. We know that teams like Terra-ubos, Blackwater, Alaska, Northport, NLEX have no chance of winning a PBA championship. We are only fooling ourselves watching the elims & quarterfinals.
BTW, I agree with you, Com Marcial & PBA officials are also to be blamed for this mess
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IPC2
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It hurts because I am a ginebra fan.
But I know SMC really fleeced trades.
But can we blame them?
Like Eala said, Companies will do everyting to make their team stronger. It is up to pba and commisioner to balance the trade.
Let's face it. For ex. You are a GM of a team. If you will make trades, you will only think about your team if that will make you stronger.
Will you really care for the other team if thet improved or not? Of course not, it is none of your business. Your job is to make your team stronger, nothing else.
So, I know SMC REALLY FLEECED TRADES THRU THEIR FARM TEAM. THEY SHOULD BE BLAMED PARTLY ALSO.
BUT THE REAL PERSON AND COMMITEE TO BLAME HERE IS PBA AND MARCIAL, IT IS THEIR JOB TO VETO TRADES. IF THEY ARE VULNERABLE, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
@IPC, you are a lawyer right? Is there any law we can enforce about Farm Teams Fleeced trades?
I'm a law student, not a lawyer. Maybe the law on unfair competition can be used, if that makes sense.
Here's what Art. 28 of the Civil Code says: Unfair competition in agricultural, commercial or industrial enterprises or in labor through the use of force, intimidation, deceit, machination or any other unjust, oppressive or high-handed method shall give rise to a right of action by the person who thereby suffers damage.
Willaware v. Jesichris says this about unfair competition: In order to qualify the competition as "unfair," it must have two characteristics: (1) it must involve an injury to a competitor or trade rival, and (2) it must involve acts which are characterized as "contrary to good conscience," or "shocking to judicial sensibilities," or otherwise unlawful; in the language of our law, these include force, intimidation, deceit, machination or any other unjust, oppressive or high-handed method. The public injury or interest is a minor factor; the essence of the matter appears to be a private wrong perpetrated by unconscionable means.
I dunno if this qualifies under unfair competition.
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JAMSKIE2
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Ouch. Please dont generalize
I am a ginebra fan. Of course I will be happy to see them win championships.
But it hurts for me that Gilas is suffering because if long hair and SMC.
I am a ginebra fan. But also a Gilas Fan.
And it will always be Country Over Club for me any time
Of course bro, I don't want to generalize namann. I'm aware naman na marami din namang SMB & Ginebra fans who love their National team.Its some sort of a hyperbole lang naman bro. Pardon me