Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[hmbopbaduwap2]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-focuses-expansion-in-3x3-league-a795-20210102?ref=article_feed_1

“Last year, may dalawang gustong mag-apply,” said Marcial during Saturday’s Power and Play program hosted by Noli Eala without revealing the identity of the companies. “Hindi ko alam kung gusto pa ba nila o depende sa pandemya. Pero last year, sinabihan na nila ako. Gusto daw nilang pumasok sa PBA. Tignan natin.”

The entry of expansion teams is still subject to the approval of the board, but PBA chairman Ricky Vargas, in a 2019 interview, said they are still not inclined to add teams in the league due to reasons such as the commitment to the national team and the stretching of the season’s schedule.

Expansion has been clamored by fans due to the bevy of talent in the amateur ranks that has emerged over the years.

For now, Marcial said the expansion plans include the addition of a 3x3 tournament separate from the main league.

Marcial said the 3x3 league will give players opportunities not only exposure-wise but also employment as the 12 teams will have their own clubs.

“At least four to five per team at may mga gustong pumasok pa. Bukod sa 12 teams natin, may gusto pang pumasok na three to five teams sa 3x3. Ang dami. Mabibigyan natin ng hanapbuhay ang mga ‘yun,” said Marcial.

Marcial targets that the 3x3 tournament will be slated even before the 46th season of the league being tipped on April 9.

“Bubuoin natin ‘yung 3x3. Baka nga sana mabuo natin bago pa magsimula ang PBA 5-on-5. Sana masimulan natin ng Marso.

 

[IPC2]

PBA wants a 3-conference format: https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba...pba-hopes-stage-three-conferences-46th-season

This has got to be a joke. To think that Kume Marcial was part of Eala's think tank. If the PBA is serious about supporting Gilas, they should really adjust the schedule to give more time to prepare.

And let's stop with the All-Filipino conferences. We need to play against imports full-time.

due to pandemic they incurred losses. three conference format maybe will let them recuperate.

Just a thought about this new format. I may be crazy for thinking this, but it may help the PBA adjust to a fiscal schedule. The PBA can hold the first conference (likely an All-Filipino) before the FIBA Asia Cup, then continue towards the import conferences, which are fortunately concurrent with the EASL. Filipinos have to get used to playing with (and against) imports the whole season, especially teams with EASL aspirations. FIBA breaks may also help with the season adjustment.

Hopefully, that's the standard format. Two import conferences from September/October to May/June.

OK, the PBA is also considering the two-conference format: https://sports.inquirer.net/412068/pba-looking-at-two-conference-season-for-2021

Kume's concerned about whether the imports would want to come here and be subjected to quarantine.

At least the schedule's gonna be more FIBA friendly if it pushes through. It won't last that long. Hopefully it pushes through, the import conference is concurrent with the EASL, and that the PBA will stop at least two months before the FIBA break. First conference hopefully ends by that time.

 

[CoJ2]

Marcial open with the idea of reviving the players' union, hope that if the union reconvenes they would have the balls to counter the evil empires unfair practices (i.e. Si Slaughter tumiklop nalang)

https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/30636339/marcial-welcomes-revival-pba-players-union

 

[IPC2]

Speaking of evil empires, SMB looks like they'll be back to full strength.

June Mar Fajardo: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...t-pba-season-a793-20210102?ref=feed_1_section
Terrence Romeo: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...ulder-injury-a793-20210102?ref=feed_1_section

Austria's gonna have a tough time picking a starting 5 here. He has 7 stars on his team. Add the fact that with the aforementioned players back, SMB is probably the deepest team in the PBA, miles ahead of even Ginebra.

 

[CoJ2]

Speaking of evil empires, SMB looks like they'll be back to full strength.

June Mar Fajardo: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...t-pba-season-a793-20210102?ref=feed_1_section
Terrence Romeo: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...ulder-injury-a793-20210102?ref=feed_1_section

Austria's gonna have a tough time picking a starting 5 here. He has 7 stars on his team. Add the fact that with the aforementioned players back, SMB is probably the deepest team in the PBA, miles ahead of even Ginebra.

SMB mght be the deepest but with Austria at helm, he'll probably just ride on those 7 stars that you mentioned like a racehorse.

 

[IPC2]

SMB mght be the deepest but with Austria at helm, he'll probably just ride on those 7 stars that you mentioned like a racehorse.

Maybe even 6, because I dunno if he'll stagger June Mar's and Mo's minutes. However, their skillsets can complement each other's. Mo can play outside, and I think he prefers to play from there, while June Mar goes around the paint.

 

[zairex2]

May I ask what league in the world that is top rated has a balance competition. Also for those who are saying about limits on players eligibility and imports in PBA, what league doesn't have that kind of rule except for NBA. Not the same PBA rule per se but doesn't have any restriction on roster spot like NBA? May I know.

 

[IPC2]

May I ask what league in the world that is top rated has a balance competition. Also for those who are saying about limits on players eligibility and imports in PBA, what league doesn't have that kind of rule except for NBA. Not the same PBA rule per se but doesn't have any restriction on roster spot like NBA? May I know.

Even in Europe, there are limits on eligibility, basketball or football. Here's the system for Liga ACB:

* 12 Roster = 7 Foreigners, 5 Domestic Players

5 Home Grown Player, (at least three years from 14 to 20 year old in one of the Spanish teams)

2 Non-Europe Passport player, (mostly USA)

5 Europe & Cotonou Passport player

- Wiki Link : Cotonou Agreement

http://elcontraataque.es/2014/06/18...anoles-valoran-una-huelga-en-el-mundial-2014/

http://www.sportando.com/en/europe/...to-new-rules-on-homegrown-players-in-acb.html

As for parity, I agree. Not a lot of top leagues are balanced. You'll be really hard-pressed to find one.

 

[zairex2]

^^^ I agree. Liga ACB of Spain has restrictions for non euro players more strict than B. League. You can only hire 2 american imports. Considering they are the World Cup champions. About competitive balance, 28 out of 37 championships are won by only two clubs, Barcelona and Madrid.

In Greece, 25 of 27 championship won by only one club. I also noticed that Greece plays for 9 months.

Are we just looking at PBA to closely that we are not seeing the reality of pro leagues in other countries. I even see people saying that PBA is racist for fil-fors restrictions.

 

[IPC2]

^^^ I agree. Liga ACB of Spain has restrictions for non euro players more strict than B. League. You can only hire 2 american imports. Considering they are the World Cup champions. About competitive balance, 28 out of 37 championships are won by only two clubs, Barcelona and Madrid.

In Greece, 25 of 27 championship won by only one club. I also noticed that Greece plays for 9 months.

Are we just looking at PBA to closely that we are not seeing the reality of pro leagues in other countries. I even see people saying that PBA is racist for fil-fors restrictions.

The El Clásico clubs. Same situation with regards to their football teams in La Liga. You'll find more parity in the top continental competitions like the Euroleague and UEFA Champions League. Good thing the upcoming EASL will give us that.

However, there's a difference in terms of imports. The Europeans tend lean more on their locals than their imports, the reverse of what's happening in Asia.

 

[KoolAid2]

The El Clásico clubs. Same situation with regards to their football teams in La Liga. You'll find more parity in the top continental competitions like the Euroleague and UEFA Champions League. Good thing the upcoming EASL will give us that.

However, there's a difference in terms of imports. The Europeans tend lean more on their locals than their imports, the reverse of what's happening in Asia.

Am i the only one who thinks that it is one of the main problems in asia?? They rely too much with the imports, especially in China and Philippines

 

[zairex2]

The El Clásico clubs. Same situation with regards to their football teams in La Liga. You'll find more parity in the top continental competitions like the Euroleague and UEFA Champions League. Good thing the upcoming EASL will give us that.

However, there's a difference in terms of imports. The Europeans tend lean more on their locals than their imports, the reverse of what's happening in Asia.

I think they are less reliant to non Spanish players than in Asia but imports and non spanish players still occupy most of the top 20 stats in Liga ACB.

 

[zairex2]

Am i the only one who thinks that it is one of the main problems in asia?? They rely too much with the imports, especially in China and Philippines

I also have some issue with it especially our locals has proven to score and do other task in All Filipino Cup. We need to understand thou that American players have better physical attributes, so they can do things much easier. To me each passing season the import task has been spread out more. And I have seen locals top score or rebound more in a game than imports.

 

[zairex2]

One more thing that is a common topic is salary cap. I know only NBA has a soft salary cap and trade restriction. Most Euro league has transfer market. Which makes rich team can acquire best teams as long as they can pay the player and the transfer fee. Thats why balance competition doesn't occur in Euro League.

NBA with all the salary cap rules and trade restrictions, superstars keep forming super teams and most are in big markets. Unless you are lucky in the draft, players tend to join up and cut their wages for a chance to win a ring.

 

[Silent Killer2]

^^^ I agree. Liga ACB of Spain has restrictions for non euro players more strict than B. League. You can only hire 2 american imports. Considering they are the World Cup champions. About competitive balance, 28 out of 37 championships are won by only two clubs, Barcelona and Madrid.

In Greece, 25 of 27 championship won by only one club. I also noticed that Greece plays for 9 months.

Are we just looking at PBA to closely that we are not seeing the reality of pro leagues in other countries. I even see people saying that PBA is racist for fil-fors restrictions.

is it not?

 

[IPC2]

I think they are less reliant to non Spanish players than in Asia but imports and non spanish players still occupy most of the top 20 stats in Liga ACB.

I checked, and most of their top 20 are non-Europeans. Even in minutes, actually, although the highest was 32 MPG.

We do have to note that only the NBA and PBA have 48-minute games. The rest have 40, under FIBA rules.

 

[IPC2]

One more thing that is a common topic is salary cap. I know only NBA has a soft salary cap and trade restriction. Most Euro league has transfer market. Which makes rich team can acquire best teams as long as they can pay the player and the transfer fee. Thats why balance competition doesn't occur in Euro League.

NBA with all the salary cap rules and trade restrictions, superstars keep forming super teams and most are in big markets. Unless you are lucky in the draft, players tend to join up and cut their wages for a chance to win a ring.

Yeah, the soft salary cap and their willingness to cut wages will undermine that. However, in the NBA, we've seen 4 stars at most. In the PBA, however, the teams that have won the past few years consisted of 4 or more stars, with the exception of ROS in 2016, TNT in 2015, and Purefoods in 2014 and 2018. Ginebra may be in that list as well before acquiring Stanley Pringle.

 

[IPC2]

Am i the only one who thinks that it is one of the main problems in asia?? They rely too much with the imports, especially in China and Philippines

I also have some issue with it especially our locals has proven to score and do other task in All Filipino Cup. We need to understand thou that American players have better physical attributes, so they can do things much easier. To me each passing season the import task has been spread out more. And I have seen locals top score or rebound more in a game than imports.

I think the same thing. The imports play too many minutes and sometimes have too big of a role. It's beneficial to the team in the short-term, but in the long-term, it tires the imports out, and stymies the roles and development of the locals a bit too much.

However, teams can afford to play their imports 40+ minutes if the games in a conference are too spread out. Compressing the schedule may force teams to load-manage their imports.

 

[Rodbi2]

I also have some issue with it especially our locals has proven to score and do other task in All Filipino Cup. We need to understand thou that American players have better physical attributes, so they can do things much easier. To me each passing season the import task has been spread out more. And I have seen locals top score or rebound more in a game than imports.

Better to set a hard salary cap for world imports slightly lower to what's currently implemented in the PBA, then. It would definitely deter legit-NBA vets from ever considering PBA as their next destination post-NBA career. I think it doesn't have to be ex-NBAers with average careers that gets invited to PBA to raise its level of play. Instead, those ex-G-Leaguers who never tasted an actual NBA or Euroleague action would be enough. Add the locals from other top Asia-Pacific pro-leagues too. They'd be enough to also make a difference.

 

[mathematicianrcg2]

One more thing that is a common topic is salary cap. I know only NBA has a soft salary cap and trade restriction. Most Euro league has transfer market. Which makes rich team can acquire best teams as long as they can pay the player and the transfer fee. Thats why balance competition doesn't occur in Euro League.

NBA with all the salary cap rules and trade restrictions, superstars keep forming super teams and most are in big markets. Unless you are lucky in the draft, players tend to join up and cut their wages for a chance to win a ring.

Balance league rarely happens.

As a GM or Owner of a club team. You want to impose your presence and be a dominant or even better, a dynasty.

And they can only do that if they

1. Fleeced other teams in a trade

2. Sign all Great Free Agents with "Under the Table" money.

Nba is unblance, Euroleague is unbalance, pba is unbalance

In fact, I cannot even name a league where all teams are balance