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Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

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And what if tnt will give in in all of greg slaughters wish?

Will GSM release him...

I think its stupid that in the PBA that a team holds the players right in perpetuity. Dapat after you have released player or he is not in your lineuolp or you are not paying him anymore, he is good as as Free agent.. VAN Opstal has been practicing with Alaska last season and was about to sign him, pero ayaw irelease ng Northport, gusto may katrade of their liking....
 
Will GSM release him...

I think its stupid that in the PBA that a team holds the players right in perpetuity. Dapat after you have released player or he is not in your lineuolp or you are not paying him anymore, he is good as as Free agent.. VAN Opstal has been practicing with Alaska last season and was about to sign him, pero ayaw irelease ng Northport, gusto may katrade of their liking....

Not in perpetuity but I understand where you're coming from. All rooks who joined the league in 2014 (Pringle, Alas, etc.) will be eligible for unrestricted free agency after 7 seasons. That means they would be unrestricted FA's this season. Everyone else after them will follow.

But don't count on the previous batches (JMF, Greg, Casio, Norwood, etc.) to become unrestricted FA's anymore...
 
Will GSM release him...

I think its stupid that in the PBA that a team holds the players right in perpetuity. Dapat after you have released player or he is not in your lineuolp or you are not paying him anymore, he is good as as Free agent.. VAN Opstal has been practicing with Alaska last season and was about to sign him, pero ayaw irelease ng Northport, gusto may katrade of their liking....

Smc will never release a big man even if its a model like avo hehe
 
Will GSM release him...

I think its stupid that in the PBA that a team holds the players right in perpetuity. Dapat after you have released player or he is not in your lineuolp or you are not paying him anymore, he is good as as Free agent.. VAN Opstal has been practicing with Alaska last season and was about to sign him, pero ayaw irelease ng Northport, gusto may katrade of their liking....

The logical move is the parks plus a player with smc's liking for gs..

Its easy for smc to not pay greg like what they did to taellis but greg slaughter is a marquee player.. sayang naman kung magreretiro na or go on with so called break up until cs goes to ginebra without him being shipped lalu niya lang binuburo sarili niya..

Ganito na lang if you cant execute a thing even a gainst myanmar, nasa mental side of things na yun problemand kirk collier is sabotaging him. Who is in his right mind hhat will train his big men to lower down the ball.. iaalog alog mo pa yun bola imbes na itataas mo na lang pangit man tignan yun walang makakapigil nun it doesnt help that despite being seven feet he cannot palm the ball the way cs and junmar can..
 
The logical move is the parks plus a player with smc's liking for gs..

Its easy for smc to not pay greg like what they did to taellis but greg slaughter is a marquee player.. sayang naman kung magreretiro na or go on with so called break up until cs goes to ginebra without him being shipped lalu niya lang binuburo sarili niya..

maybe parks jr. to nlex? parks jr. for erram and a 3rd team?
 
Di ba naisip ni greg na despite his struggles he can still post a double double if he is only the center of a team? Even if he plays well just like game 1 of govs cup finals he will not get more that 15 mins pt just ask cs given na he is a traditional center..ganun naman lagi si japhet sa kanya up until he was injured and jdv is in the twilight of his career..iniisip niya na mag stay na labg sa ginebra up until japeth lost his prime years..
 
Di ba naisip ni greg na despite his struggles he can still post a double double if he is only the center of a team? Even if he plays well just like game 1 of govs cup finals he will not get more that 15 mins pt just ask cs given na he is a traditional center..ganun naman lagi si japhet sa kanya up until he was injured and jdv is in the twilight of his career..iniisip niya na mag stay na labg sa ginebra up until japeth lost his prime years..

You could see naman na GS like CS or like mga Filfor, they are really quite competitive and confident about themselves , like they dont just settle for what they thi k they dont deserve... GS thinks he deserve longer PT... Last Finals kasi he plays like around 15 minutes, even less minutes than Mariano... Dont know k ow why Tim all of a sudden deviated from his big lineup of GS, Japs, Brownlee....Maybe Tim was concerned about the speed factor pero dapat pag isipi mo rin ang Coach na on defense they will suffer witj size mismatch.... Pero GSM kasi has become fast paced and to guard oriented kaya naging less ang touches and role ni Slaughter...
 
Wonder if Greg will be taking a break in PBA only or in basketball na in general. Would he consider a Gilas stint muna while not being on contract with a PBA team? Para at least condition pa rin.
 
If Greg was 4 inch taller he'll be a Sam Deguara if he was 4 inches shorter,he'll be irrelevant
 
You could see naman na GS like CS or like mga Filfor, they are really quite competitive and confident about themselves , like they dont just settle for what they thi k they dont deserve... GS thinks he deserve longer PT... Last Finals kasi he plays like around 15 minutes, even less minutes than Mariano... Dont know k ow why Tim all of a sudden deviated from his big lineup of GS, Japs, Brownlee....Maybe Tim was concerned about the speed factor pero dapat pag isipi mo rin ang Coach na on defense they will suffer witj size mismatch.... Pero GSM kasi has become fast paced and to guard oriented kaya naging less ang touches and role ni Slaughter...

Kabaligtaran si greg imo.. when you have limited pt you are like a man in a mission greg is a winner but ningas kugon.. he palys like marlou aquino sometimes or in a way andy seigle when he plays second fiddle
 
You could see naman na GS like CS or like mga Filfor, they are really quite competitive and confident about themselves , like they dont just settle for what they thi k they dont deserve... GS thinks he deserve longer PT... Last Finals kasi he plays like around 15 minutes, even less minutes than Mariano... Dont know k ow why Tim all of a sudden deviated from his big lineup of GS, Japs, Brownlee....Maybe Tim was concerned about the speed factor pero dapat pag isipi mo rin ang Coach na on defense they will suffer witj size mismatch.... Pero GSM kasi has become fast paced and to guard oriented kaya naging less ang touches and role ni Slaughter...

They won against a balkman led smb because of greg but loss to an undersized magnolia team the next govs cup because of him...downfall since then
 
Kabaligtaran si greg imo.. when you have limited pt you are like a man in a mission greg is a winner but ningas kugon.. he palys like marlou aquino sometimes or in a way andy seigle when he plays second fiddle

In fairness to GS, he palys hard in shirt spurt he is used, its just that backup role na lang talaga siya kay Tim even id he is playing well.... Mas mahaba pa ang PT nina Thompson or ni Mariano.... A trase and changenof environement will do wondera for him...

Dont know how this will play out.. Has GS burned bridges with SMC and theres no way he can come back to GSM... Remember GSM still haa hia rights... And if he gets traded, well he play for other team... Yung bang pag improve nia is it for Ginebra only or he wants to be a better player to show Ginebra that he is a big loss to them..
 
You could see naman na GS like CS or like mga Filfor, they are really quite competitive and confident about themselves , like they dont just settle for what they thi k they dont deserve... GS thinks he deserve longer PT... Last Finals kasi he plays like around 15 minutes, even less minutes than Mariano... Dont know k ow why Tim all of a sudden deviated from his big lineup of GS, Japs, Brownlee....Maybe Tim was concerned about the speed factor pero dapat pag isipi mo rin ang Coach na on defense they will suffer witj size mismatch.... Pero GSM kasi has become fast paced and to guard oriented kaya naging less ang touches and role ni Slaughter...

Yeah. Thats the point. Basketball has evolved now. If Greg is born un 1980's, He will be tougher. And We know that Big Men during those daysbare the one dominating.

They even make a shitty rule that Mon Fernandez, Abet Guidaben, Another Big Man(I forgot) cannot play with the same team.

In other words, Greg is born late of his time.
 
In fairness to GS, he palys hard in shirt spurt he is used, its just that backup role na lang talaga siya kay Tim even id he is playing well.... Mas mahaba pa ang PT nina Thompson or ni Mariano.... A trase and changenof environement will do wondera for him...

Dont know how this will play out.. Has GS burned bridges with SMC and theres no way he can come back to GSM... Remember GSM still haa hia rights... And if he gets traded, well he play for other team... Yung bang pag improve nia is it for Ginebra only or he wants to be a better player to show Ginebra that he is a big loss to them..

Nagpapapresyo lang siya, he will wait if MVP teams will bite his demands. Then smc will be forced to match it. He will have many opportunities to show his stuff. From SMB, Northport and magnolia, kaso he wants more than what is offered on the table..I dont think he "only" wants to stay with Ginebra, he only wanted to have his playing time to be secured..
 
Nagpapapresyo lang siya, he will wait if MVP teams will bite his demands. Then smc will be forced to match it. He will have many opportunities to show his stuff. From SMB, Northport and magnolia, kaso he wants more than what is offered on the table..I dont think he "only" wants to stay with Ginebra, he only wanted to have his playing time to be secured..

For me, He should fight for minutes e. Playing time is earned, not given. If you are performing well in Practice, then you have almost a guaranteed playing time.

Junmar is not a modern Big man also. Also a post up player like greg, but why junmar is given minutes? Because he earns it.

If Junmar is in Ginebra, Tim cone and Ginebra will never trade him, even if they will play run and gun hybrid triangle.
 
For me, He should fight for minutes e. Playing time is earned, not given. If you are performing well in Practice, then you have almost a guaranteed playing time.

Junmar is not a modern Big man also. Also a post up player like greg, but why junmar is given minutes? Because he earns it.

If Junmar is in Ginebra, Tim cone and Ginebra will never trade him, even if they will play run and gun hybrid triangle.

Gregs value has decreased at GSM because masyadong Ball heavy mga guards nila. PRINGLE, TEnorio and Thompson has more shot compared to Japhet and GS... Kahit naka seal na sila and in good inside position still no pass... Seems like the situation of Kai last U18 World Cup, he barely touch the ball unlike in U16 WC... Mas ball heavy kasi teaamates nia like Dave, Abadiano, Fortea et al...
 
Yeah. Thats the point. Basketball has evolved now. If Greg is born un 1980's, He will be tougher. And We know that Big Men during those daysbare the one dominating.

They even make a shitty rule that Mon Fernandez, Abet Guidaben, Another Big Man(I forgot) cannot play with the same team.

In other words, Greg is born late of his time.

Never really thought of that equality rule where Mon, Abet, Manny and Yoyoy were not allowed to play for one team was a sh1tty one. I actually thought it was consistent of what the PBA espoused back then - parity among all teams. It all started when Crispa disbanded and then Deputy Commissioner Tommy Manotoc (Commissioner Naning Yenko was a mere figurehead) spread out the players to different teams instead of making them form a dynasty team with Shell, the company that bought the Crispa franchise. Thereafter, he instituted the PBA draft where the least performing team of the previous season would get the top pick in the draft. Since Shell was a new team and only got Cezar, Fabiosa and Cristobal from Crispa, Manotoc gave them the first overall pick which turned out to be Sonny Cabatu. This allowed the Azodrin Bugbusters to enter the Finals in the All Filipino of their maiden season, losing out to Great Taste.

Then, of course, the big men parity rule. Considering that Fernandez and Guidaben were practically dominant then (winning the 1982 to 1984 and 1986 MVP plums), Manotoc spread out these two along with Victorino and Villamin to different teams in 1987 to allow every PBA team to have a chance of winning. True enough, from 1986 to 1991, seven franchises won championships in an 18-conference span. And yes, this also led to the PBA becoming the biggest sports entertainment spectacle in the country, attracting fans and viewers all over in what can be described as the PBA's glory years.
 
Never really thought of that equality rule where Mon, Abet, Manny and Yoyoy were not allowed to play for one team was a sh1tty one. I actually thought it was consistent of what the PBA espoused back then - parity among all teams. It all started when Crispa disbanded and then Deputy Commissioner Tommy Manotoc (Commissioner Naning Yenko was a mere figurehead) spread out the players to different teams instead of making them form a dynasty team with Shell, the company that bought the Crispa franchise. Thereafter, he instituted the PBA draft where the least performing team of the previous season would get the top pick in the draft. Since Shell was a new team and only got Cezar, Fabiosa and Cristobal from Crispa, Manotoc gave them the first overall pick which turned out to be Sonny Cabatu. This allowed the Azodrin Bugbusters to enter the Finals in the All Filipino of their maiden season, losing out to Great Taste.

Then, of course, the big men parity rule. Considering that Fernandez and Guidaben were practically dominant then (winning the 1982 to 1984 and 1986 MVP plums), Manotoc spread out these two along with Victorino and Villamin to different teams in 1987 to allow every PBA team to have a chance of winning. True enough, from 1986 to 1991, seven franchises won championships in an 18-conference span. And yes, this also led to the PBA becoming the biggest sports entertainment spectacle in the country, attracting fans and viewers all over in what can be described as the PBA's glory years.

hope marcial does this but with the way things are happening, i doubt..
 
hope marcial does this but with the way things are happening, i doubt..

Another problem is that No Big Man player will be willing to play for a bottom/unpopular team.

Greg, Junmar,Japeth, Almazan, Sanggalang, Cstand, Tautua, Erram are our best bigs. Except for greg and japeth, they have different teams naman. So parity among big man is ok.

If there is a parity rule that may apply. It is much better to have only maximum 2 superstar, and 2 star each team.
In short,Parity of Star Players!!!!!.

But as you said, Commisioner is not open to our ideas and suggestions.
 
Nagpapapresyo lang siya, he will wait if MVP teams will bite his demands. Then smc will be forced to match it. He will have many opportunities to show his stuff. From SMB, Northport and magnolia, kaso he wants more than what is offered on the table..I dont think he "only" wants to stay with Ginebra, he only wanted to have his playing time to be secured..

nagpapapresyo? I think BGSM still has the rights on him. It's either they released him unconditionally or trade him. There's no need for SMC to match MVP offers. It should be the other way around.
 
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