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Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

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robert0326 said:
Shaw is already 35 yrs. old.. even he is high pick value but not his age.. so might be Taha, Magat and a 2nd rounder is a good trade (except he will post atleast Cstand numbers, then he will have a high value)... Only 2-3 years left in his tank..
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Well Asi is productive at 41-42 in nlex before coach yeng. I believe Shaw will be like Asi. So he have 5-6 years pa. In that span years. Tnt maybe can get a big man. They need to release kelly. Taha is still valuable.

But yes, let us see first his capability with blackwater
 
robert0326 said:
TNT don't need Perez right now.. just bring back Trollano after AFC.. Pogoy for Trollano and Semerad is a best trade TNT can get... Pogoy will be star player under coach Nash.. We all know Nash loves his FEU players, while Trollano and Semerad will continue what their start before traded.. and TNT will strengthen their wings in this two.. or maybe multi player trade.. Pogoy, Taha, Magat and future 1st rounder of TNT for Shaw, Trollano and Semerad
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They will not be a championship team with that. They need a big man.
And trading castro for perez is the most logical while castro has still value.

You know why San Miguel is a powerhouse for every decade? Because they will trade their old star players for new ones. Like they did with Danny I and Danny S, Dondon, etc. It's like a bad thing to make, but as an owner/manager that is the most logical choice

If you guys are playing MYGM in nba 2k. You need to trade all the old players while still they have value, so that you will not left with nothing in the future. That is happeninh in TNTm They eona perpetual trophy in 2011-2012. But after that it is all about SMC TEAMS.

They should have traded kelly,ranidel, ryan reyes,fonacier that time. Instead they eait for these guys to be old.

So Castro for perez, parks for greg will be the dream trade for tnt. Put perez and Greg in Tnt, they will be relevant again
 
Silent Killer said:
MVP group needs a chualay :D they don’t have that person..
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Well as bad as chua is, ge manage to make ginebra,san miguel, purefooda a contender every decade. Cant remember the last time theae three teams did not make playoffs at the same time
 
The one thing stopping NLEX from being a major title contender, especially in the PHL Cup, is Yeng's indie mentality.

Despite all the resources that the team has to improve their team, he apparently isn't used yet to having this luxury at his beckon, considering the 19 years of being part of teams like Red Bull, Burger King and Rain or Shine. Even top management has reminded Yeng that if he's interested in a marquee player, he has the freedom to make such a move.

Perhaps also, it's because of Yeng's partiality on hardworking yet non-marquee players who'll give everything to win. Yeng, though, has to realize that there are also elite players who can give the same amount of effort and produce better dividends - that effort isn't exclusive to role players.
 
robert0326 said:
MVP group should do who will be the top priority!! If it is TNT eh give them more resources.. If Meralco or Nlex then do it also.. On the 3 eh NLEX has that chance to win at all.. because they have balance roster.. and CYG is their GM also.. he knows the in and out in the PBA.. they need only more seasoning to be more competitive.. on TNT eh they should get a big right now!!! look at SMC group.. their always top priority is SMB, so you can see they have the best line up in the league.. then next is Ginebra and lastly Magnolia..
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Mvp must sacrifice one team. Smc always sacrifice magnolia.


Among nlex,meralco,tnt. It is very tough to make a decision. They have good coaches. Maybe a coaching rigodon may happen.
Norman to TNT again. Dickel to meralco, luigi as dummy coach. Coach yeng can stay in nlex I think.

In short, they must sacrifice tnt for now. Tnt can tank to get high draft picks. Succeeding draft year are deep.

MVP already tries Meralco and TNT. Why not Nlex. Well looks like they are planning to make nlex a finalist but they are in a tough bracjet in nirthport and ginebra. So MVP decided to go with meralco
 
Jay P. Mercado said:
The one thing stopping NLEX from being a major title contender, especially in the PHL Cup, is Yeng's indie mentality.

Despite all the resources that the team has to improve their team, he apparently isn't used yet to having this luxury at his beckon, considering the 19 years of being part of teams like Red Bull, Burger King and Rain or Shine. Even top management has reminded Yeng that if he's interested in a marquee player, he has the freedom to make such a move.

Perhaps also, it's because of Yeng's partiality on hardworking yet non-marquee players who'll give everything to win. Yeng, though, has to realize that there are also elite players who can give the same amount of effort and produce better dividends - that effort isn't exclusive to role players.
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Coach Yeng cannot coach talented players as we saw in gilas. He cannot manage egos.

His best trait is he makes an average player a good player like jeff chan and gabe norwood. They are average before yeng came in.
He cannot do that with superstar olayers.

He also wants industrious players and scrappy players. You rarely see a superstar willing to do the dirty work. And also you cant expect junmar to be as physical as belga.

In short, coach yeng style favors average players, unoredictable offense because all players are all average, no superstars.
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If you put yeng in smb, he will not succeed. Arwind,Ross,Cabagnot, and maybe marcio will requuest management to fire him. Because they will not get the minutes they want. Coach yeng will give junmar and mamaril the same minutes. LOL.
 
robert0326 said:
MVP should make sure if tnt will tank eh Kai sotto will be their target.. tnt can dynasty team if Kai is there.. to make sure that
theyy should prepare how can they execute it w/o deliberating.. yes, we all know Kai is targeting NBA but if I were MVP camp eh before he will enter nba draft eh I will put his name first in the pba draft so that they have the rights of Kai sotto once he was gone in the nba..he will be eligible in pba draft coming 2022 and he doesn't need any d-league requirements because we all know that he can join the seniors team anytime starting this year.. if he suit up in one of gilas games eh he will be eligible for pba draft 2022 and tnt should make a tanking mode a year before Kai will enter pba draft .
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What? Can Tnt decide to put Kai sotto name on pba draft.? As far as I know, Kai must personally apply. And he will be in nba for sure before he is eligible in pba.

And I guess in the future pba will adopt to the lottery system. Bottom 8 will have a chance for the no. 1 pick. This will stop farm teams to get top picks and sell it.(anyway just pure theory and guess).

Tnt can tank for othet big time players like Thirdy, Kobe Paras,etc. Assets that can give them a big man.
 
Anyway,I agree that Kai Sotto will dominate the pba. Especially junmar,greg,etc big man are old. The only one I see rivaling him is carl tamayo. Tamayo beat sotto in high school. But Kai with tsf training surely better now.

If Kai will enter the Pba, he will be as dominant, ir more dominant than jmf. He will have no matchup.
 
robert0326 said:
We will never know aside what Kai sotto's plan.. yes, NBA in his 1st priority but he can apply in the pba draft especially if he will go pro early before 20 years old by using special gilas draft.. special gilas draft maybe until 2023 or before world cup and he can apply there and whoever which team will get him eh he will get his rights even he is in the nba.. pba can give sotto a special pass in the gilas draft because he is one of the assets in Philippine basketball.. parks and Cstand joined in the pba draft even they have contracts in abl.. then they can do it with Kai.. he will apply in the pba draft even he is in the nba and get his rights..
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Correct me if I am wrong. But if an nba team gets him, that nba team will buy the rights of whichever Kais team in Pba.

Thus, uf he failed in nba, he will be a free agent both in nba and pba.

I think I read in spin. Ph that pba free agency will start now in 2020s. So I think Kai will be free agent.

Tnt doesnt have his rights because nba team already buy that rights.

Though Im not sure how pba will handle situation
 
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robert0326 said:
If Kai will apply in the pba draft even he is in the nba eh it is still legal.. he will only join the draft and that's it.. the team will take only his rights and wait when Kai will be eventually out of NBA and decides to play in the pba.. ala Cstand and parks situation..
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I doubt nba will agree to that. They have an nba bargain agreement. Cstand and parks never played in nba
 
mathematicianrcg said:
I doubt nba will agree to that. They have an nba bargain agreement. Cstand and parks never played in nba
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i think Some of the players were drafted by NBA teams but was still playing in Europe before they got called back by the team that drafted them.It is actually possible.Manu Ginobili for instance got drafted by the San Antonio Spurs in 1999 but remained in Europe to play until being called up by its NBA team in 2002.He is i think the first project/developmental player in my mind.
 
Arvydas Sabonis also had to play out his contract..but I don't think that was "developmental" in nature. He was already primed for the NBA. Too bad we didn't see him at his prime.
 
el scorcho said:
Arvydas Sabonis also had to play out his contract..but I don't think that was "developmental" in nature. He was already primed for the NBA. Too bad we didn't see him at his prime.
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Yeah, it was during the Cold War. Clyde Drexler said that with prime Sabonis their Blazers could've won multiple NBA titles. but his actual NBA career was still kinda passable for an intl player
 
mangangalakal said:
Yeah, it was during the Cold War. Clyde Drexler said that with prime Sabonis their Blazers could've won multiple NBA titles. but his actual NBA career was still kinda passable for an intl player
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a 30 something rookie with two busted knees but still made it on the NBA All-Rookie First Team and a runner up for both the Rookie of the Year and Sixth Man on the Year
 
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