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Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

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JAMSKIE said:
While the latest trade deals that Blackwater had made has made the team depleted, I've felt a sigh of relief that at least Rayray Parks didn't go to the SMC empire.

I just I hope that the team gets a marque rookie in the coming draft & that Blackwater doesn't trade its rookie draft pick.

One positive I see with Parks going to TnT is that, with TnT implementing a low-carb diet to its players, Parks will shed some unwanted pounds. Losing some 20 pounds in his current weight would be good for Parks.
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blackwater will pick first this year and guess who will they pick.. GO figure ;)
 
NBA indeed has cash considerations during trades. And yes, the amount is related to the salary cap (of course). How it works is that each team has a set dollar amount of cash that they can use in trades. They can use all of them in 1 trade, or split it in multiple trades. I think we are all aware of the salary matching rule that the NBA implements in trades, right? Well the cash consideration cannot be included in the computation of that salary matching. Cash consideration is just used as plain old sweetener in trades. But given the limited amount of, it rarely provides any actual sweetness.

CoJ said:
unfortunately, the cash consideration part of the trade is under the table/off the records
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I think you are just assuming that, unless you can provide any actual report that this is not included in the official record. Given that the lopsided trades (with significant cash amounts included) were approved by the PBA's committee, i am inclined to believe that the cash considerations were, indeed, considered during deliberation and therefore were recorded.
 
Silent Killer said:
blackwater will pick first this year and guess who will they pick.. GO figure ;)
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I really can't understand how on earth they would GO for that rookie when there are other significantly better rookies out there.

What's so special about that player? Being a 6-foot-7 with decent 3-pt. shooting?

But skill-wise, I don't really see anything special about him. All I can see is that he thrives in the system of coach Tab Baldwin & he is surrounded by quality players in Ateneo that is why he looks good. I wonder how he would perform under a different coach & with different teammates. I see Go as nothing more than a role player in the PBA.

With Blackwater becoming depleted after the recent trade deals, the team would need a super rookie in the mold of a Ray Parks or a CJ Perez.
 
JAMSKIE said:
I really can't understand how on earth they would GO for that rookie when there are other significantly better rookies out there.

What's so special about that player? Being a 6-foot-7 with decent 3-pt. shooting?

But skill-wise, I don't really see anything special about him. All I can see is that he thrives in the system of coach Tab Baldwin & he is surrounded by quality players in Ateneo that is why he looks good. I wonder how he would perform under a different coach & with different teammates. I see Go as nothing more than a role player in the PBA.

With Blackwater becoming depleted after the recent trade deals, the team would need a super rookie in the mold of a Ray Parks or a CJ Perez.
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BW need a big who can defend the pait too. big men is a necessity in the PBA.
 
JAMSKIE said:
I really can't understand how on earth they would GO for that rookie when there are other significantly better rookies out there.

What's so special about that player? Being a 6-foot-7 with decent 3-pt. shooting?

But skill-wise, I don't really see anything special about him. All I can see is that he thrives in the system of coach Tab Baldwin & he is surrounded by quality players in Ateneo that is why he looks good. I wonder how he would perform under a different coach & with different teammates. I see Go as nothing more than a role player in the PBA.

With Blackwater becoming depleted after the recent trade deals, the team would need a super rookie in the mold of a Ray Parks or a CJ Perez.
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go mentioned he wants to play within the MVP umbrella.. knowing the depth charts of bigs TNT has, Go is a good welcome addition
 
JAMSKIE said:
I really can't understand how on earth they would GO for that rookie when there are other significantly better rookies out there.

What's so special about that player? Being a 6-foot-7 with decent 3-pt. shooting?

But skill-wise, I don't really see anything special about him. All I can see is that he thrives in the system of coach Tab Baldwin & he is surrounded by quality players in Ateneo that is why he looks good. I wonder how he would perform under a different coach & with different teammates. I see Go as nothing more than a role player in the PBA.

With Blackwater becoming depleted after the recent trade deals, the team would need a super rookie in the mold of a Ray Parks or a CJ Perez.
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6’8, good shooter, high iq. Probably will be reserved for an MVP team.
 
digitalsuperman said:
BW need a big who can defend the pait too. big men is a necessity in the PBA.
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But if BW picks a Thirdy Ravena or a Roosevelt Adams, then a one on one trade with someone like a JP Erram or Almazan would be a better option.

But I understand the BW-TnT connection. After all both TnT & SMC have their respective farm teams in the PBA which makes for a shitty league.
 
JAMSKIE said:
I really can't understand how on earth they would GO for that rookie when there are other significantly better rookies out there.

What's so special about that player? Being a 6-foot-7 with decent 3-pt. shooting?

But skill-wise, I don't really see anything special about him. All I can see is that he thrives in the system of coach Tab Baldwin & he is surrounded by quality players in Ateneo that is why he looks good. I wonder how he would perform under a different coach & with different teammates. I see Go as nothing more than a role player in the PBA.

With Blackwater becoming depleted after the recent trade deals, the team would need a super rookie in the mold of a Ray Parks or a CJ Perez.
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A Paras if he joins the draft or Adams shoupd be number 1 or even Thirdy Ravena..
 
JAMSKIE said:
But if BW picks a Thirdy Ravena or a Roosevelt Adams, then a one on one trade with someone like a JP Erram or Almazan would be a better option.

But I understand the BW-TnT connection. After all both TnT & SMC have their respective farm teams in the PBA which makes for a shitty league.
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huh? what made you think NLEX would trade Erram and Meralco would trade Almazan? if you pick Go, then you don't need to trade for those two in which is entirely next to impossible.
 
If BW does pick 1st and select Isaac Go then it is absolute that they are going to eventually trade him to the MVP teams. With Munzon gone I think the best player in the draft would be a toss up between Adams and Ravena.
 
r1ck said:
If BW does pick 1st and select Isaac Go then it is absolute that they are going to eventually trade him to the MVP teams. With Munzon gone I think the best player in the draft would be a toss up between Adams and Ravena.
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But you can't 1st picks right? That's why perez is still in columbia
 
lurklurk said:
NBA indeed has cash considerations during trades. And yes, the amount is related to the salary cap (of course). How it works is that each team has a set dollar amount of cash that they can use in trades. They can use all of them in 1 trade, or split it in multiple trades. I think we are all aware of the salary matching rule that the NBA implements in trades, right? Well the cash consideration cannot be included in the computation of that salary matching. Cash consideration is just used as plain old sweetener in trades. But given the limited amount of, it rarely provides any actual sweetness.


I think you are just assuming that, unless you can provide any actual report that this is not included in the official record. Given that the lopsided trades (with significant cash amounts included) were approved by the PBA's committee, i am inclined to believe that the cash considerations were, indeed, considered during deliberation and therefore were recorded.
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My assumptions were based on official reports as published by sports columns which does not include nor report the cash involved in trades, plus the only evidence we have on cash considerations are tweets from PBA insiders...in short i really dont know
 
digitalsuperman said:
huh? what made you think NLEX would trade Erram and Meralco would trade Almazan? if you pick Go, then you don't need to trade for those two in which is entirely next to impossible.
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Age factor bro. Erram & Almazan aren't that young anymore. This is what makes a blue chip rookie like Thirdy or Adams marketable enough for a trade involving either Almazan or Erram. Maybe a one on one trade wouldn't cut it but Thirdy/Adams + another player (say a Paul Desiderio) would be a good offer.
 
JAMSKIE said:
Age factor bro. Erram & Almazan aren't that young anymore. This is what makes a blue chip rookie like Thirdy or Adams marketable enough for a trade involving either Almazan or Erram. Maybe a one on one trade wouldn't cut it but Thirdy/Adams + another player (say a Paul Desiderio) would be a good offer.
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erram and almazan are still young and not yet near retirement age like santos age.. and i don't think cyg will trade erram after the mvp group spent 25 million pesos getting erram..
 
JAMSKIE said:
Age factor bro. Erram & Almazan aren't that young anymore. This is what makes a blue chip rookie like Thirdy or Adams marketable enough for a trade involving either Almazan or Erram. Maybe a one on one trade wouldn't cut it but Thirdy/Adams + another player (say a Paul Desiderio) would be a good offer.
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i dont think they are near 40. maybe unless if erram and almazan reach 40 they'll trade them but by that time im sure there will be lots of big men around. i dont see any reason to trade big men.
 
comparing the gilas-caliber bigs of smc vs mvp teams:

smc - fajardo, aguilar, slaughter, tautuaa, sanggalang
mvp - rosario, erram, almazan

mvp teams have a lot of catching up to do.
 
JAMSKIE said:
Age factor bro. Erram & Almazan aren't that young anymore. This is what makes a blue chip rookie like Thirdy or Adams marketable enough for a trade involving either Almazan or Erram. Maybe a one on one trade wouldn't cut it but Thirdy/Adams + another player (say a Paul Desiderio) would be a good offer.
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Both are 30 years old. In this day and age when we have a dearth of quality big men, trading these two would be totally illogical.

The elite teams can always get the top rooks of the draft in several ways - but none of these options would include giving up on their own bigs. Unless of course if the said big becomes a headcase.

I'm guessing if Kobe Paras opts to join the draft this December, he'd be taken in at #1. Not because he's the best talent available but because he's the most marketable and can bring in the most number of fans.
 
Snow Badua
@snowbadua
Hindi nyo pa kasi nakikita yung tunay na laro ni CHRIS BANCHERO.

Di ba nga medyo magulo magbalasa coach nila dati.

Mas napaboran pa ata sina RACAL at ENCISO.

Kaya nakalimutan nyo na yan.

Nag US NCAA yan idol.

Saka pogi na hindi pa mabaho hininga.

What kind of hot take is this by Snow? Hahahaha. And one of the comments:

Ian
@iansantii
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@snowbadua
Mabaho pala hininga ni Paul Lee hahaha kaya pala laging natatanggalan ng ipin sa laro. Humihiwalay na ng kusa hahahaha

LOL!
 
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