Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[kerouac822]

This begs the question: What separates a man's personality as a journalist from his online persona (e.g., social media accounts)? The line is getting more and more blurry by the minute as even legitimate news organizations are using Twitter, Facebook, and IG as sources of information, and sometimes quote the social media posts themselves. This incident shows that the PBA as an organization is way behind the times. I doubt if they even have a full-time social media and online bureau.

 

[Aerial Voyager2]

badua just bit the hand that feeds him. he is a sports editor/columnist and not a showbiz journalist. he has no business reporting personal issues with any of the sports personalities. perhaps he should stick to showbiz reporting than basketball. he could've just stick to basketball updates than having a tirades against chua. it was really uncalled for. i'm not sure if chua provoked him though.

anyways i don't think this will stop badua. he will continue reporting pba news using his contacts/sources.

And if badua didn't report these tirades, who do you expect to expose these shenanigans? those tweets wasn't only about the immoral sex scandal of chua, it was also about why top tier national players weren't release to the national pool, an important concern that needs to be addressed one way or another.

 

[kerouac822]

And if badua didn't report these tirades, who do you expect to expose these shenanigans? those tweets wasn't only about the immoral sex scandal of chua, it was also about why top tier national players weren't release to the national pool, an important concern that needs to be addressed one way or another.

There are proper forums for it. Like SPIN.ph, for example. At least the liability would've been shared and he would've been able to get protection from his bosses at PEP. And he could have written his thoughts in a way that would not be mistaken for personal attacks. As it is, he was too Twitter-happy. Nauna ang pasabog sa pag-iisip.

 

[TrueBluePinoy2]

This begs the question: What separates a man's personality as a journalist from his online persona (e.g., social media accounts)? The line is getting more and more blurry by the minute as even legitimate news organizations are using Twitter, Facebook, and IG as sources of information, and sometimes quote the social media posts themselves. This incident shows that the PBA as an organization is way behind the times. I doubt if they even have a full-time social media and online bureau.

They don't even have their own legitimate website.

 

[kerouac822]

They don't even have their own legitimate website.

Indonesia's top league has a very good website while the PBA uses the Inquirer portal.

We have a lot of Web talent and the PBA couldn't even set aside a budget for website operations. I mean, all those franchise fees and they couldn't even work out how a good web site would drive up advertising fees.

 

[Aerial Voyager2]

There are proper forums for it. Like SPIN.ph, for example. At least the liability would've been shared and he would've been able to get protection from his bosses at PEP. And he could have written his thoughts in a way that would not be mistaken for personal attacks. As it is, he was too Twitter-happy. Nauna ang pasabog sa pag-iisip.

Yes that was his only mistake but all I'm saying is the buzz or startalk won't give a crap about this issue.

 

[trig2]

for me SMC can ban Snow from attending practices of their teams(all four of them). I don't agree with the league wide ban as it only concerns one team official. If the commissioner wants to ban him, then all teams should vote on it. PBA should infact be thankful to snow. They get free publicity because of spin. That amount of media presence and online clicks must cost millions if PBA had to pay for it.

Snow is trying to be Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. Both are dumb and makes a lot of crazy trade rumors but I find it entertaining. Just be aware of who they are and just enjoy the ride.

 

[kerouac822]

Yes that was his only mistake but all I'm saying is the buzz or startalk won't give a crap about this issue.

You never know. In this day and age, sports and entertainment are kissing cousins. Especially since Poblador is linked to Chua who is linked to SMC.

If I was RSA and it was really Chua who kept SMC players from joining the Gilas pool without my blessing, I'd keep him on ice. Just like what SMC did with Eala. Chua's causing too much trouble.

 

[zuma1692]

If I am not mistaken, the ban is for life. I'd impose a ban for a year at most and demand a public apology. Of course, the latter is something someone of his caliber will not do. If I was Chua, I'll file a libel suit against Snow on top of all possible sanctions.

Knowing Badua, he'll find ways around it. He can send proxies in the name of SPIN.ph to interview PBA personalities, then write articles (or even social media posts) based on transcripts.

if it is a lifetime ban, then i think it is harsh.. no matter how i don't like badua and his "thug" demeanor and unprofessional style of writing, i think banning for life is too much.. probably a year ban and a public apology would suffice..

but more than that, having thought of it, i think San Miguel should initiate the actions instead of the PBA.. because it is their party that is involved and not the league in general.. but we all know where the PBA is...

 

[zuma1692]

My personal tussle with Badua in the past, where he spent several precious minutes of airtime on his TV show just to unleash tirades viciously on me, makes me think that he deserves the penalty. I was and never will be a fan of his "journalistic" approach, bad English and all, and neither do I appreciate the manner of leaking news based on "reliable sources." This isn't news but sheer fodder for gossip.

He claimed that out of "delicadeza" or sense of propriety, I shouldn't be criticizing a colleague in media. But I was never part of media, except perhaps as a contributor in an online sports page. So that accusation doesn't stick. But more importantly, his stand on colleagues sticking up for each other, even when they're wrong, smacks of a fraternity, an all-boys' club, no different from the PBA Board.

However, despite everything that he has done, I disagree with Narvasa's decision. The PBA has absolutely no jurisdiction on enacting this sanction since the issue, while involving a PBA Governor, does not have anything to do with the league in general. Chua could have come up with the "ban" against Badua on all SMC teams, including the prohibition of granting him interviews, otherwise, they get penalized in return. But to involve the PBA was extremely harsh and has a chilling effect on the members of media. It sends the message that if they don't toe the line, they'll suffer the same experience.

Regarding his personal attacks on Chua, the latter has several legal remedies for such. He can file a libel lawsuit against the writer for his Twitter rants, an option that, while not generally accepted as a solution to democracy, can provide comfort for the aggrieved party. To many, Badua is getting his dues for his irresponsible style that lends a black eye on sports reportage, but it doesn't equate to a ban. Imagine if Beth Celis got banned also by then Commissioner Noli Eala for her stinging criticism on the latter regarding the Eugene Tejada incident, that would have resulted to muzzling the press.

One would argue though that Celis is different from Badua in all perspectives. True, but wasn't the reason for the ban solely based on what he ranted against Chua on Twitter? Perhaps, if Narvasa cited other factors in the past - irresponsible writing, his skirmishes with various PBA officials, including the statistician, his attack on players to make sure they treat him well, etc. - couple that with the Chua incident, and yes, due process, then perhaps the ban may be arguably justified.

having thought of this again, i agree with you.. i just thought that something must be done to Badua and his childish ways.. i don't know what the PBA can do with him but wait, why the PBA? shouldn't it be San Miguel since Badua is attacking a San Miguel executive and not the league in general.. but we all know San Miguel influence..

and yes, this is an isolated incident.. if you add up everything he does unprofessionally to those connected with the league, then yes a ban may be imposed.. but this is just one incident, isolated and was handed down a verdict of a lifetime ban.. i think that is harsh, no matter how unprofessional badua is..

 

[kerouac822]

My only fear here is that Badua will become the attack dog of parties seeking to destroy the PBA.

People who follow both Gilas and Azkals know who I'm talking about. Some time in 2010, a certain tabloid journalist was not able to get an interview with someone connected to a national team. He ended up writing trumped-up stories about sex scandals about players in that team. Now, he's also branched out to attacking Gilas, Ateneo, the PVF, the V-League, etc., while also attacking "fellow" journalists. His Twitter timeline is full of reposts and "pakibasa and pakipasa" sh!te directed to fringe media personalities and fan clubs.

Say what you will about Snow, but unlike the guy manning the hotdog stand, he is more or less a known online personality with a wide reach. Add the PBA ban, and you have a recipe for a PR disaster.

 

[digitalsuperman2]

And if badua didn't report these tirades, who do you expect to expose these shenanigans? those tweets wasn't only about the immoral sex scandal of chua, it was also about why top tier national players weren't release to the national pool, an important concern that needs to be addressed one way or another.

actually those tweets, it was about chua's scandal as far as i've read his timeline. its just that the national pool issue was just an supplemental exposé.

if his intentions was really to expose chua stopping SMC players from participating in gilas pool then he could've just stuck it out with that topic without having to discuss about someones personal business. if indeed he is a sports journalist he could've just focused on the sports aspect and not on the personal life of the personalities. but i think badua is more showbiz than sports.

i do agree that the ban should've been a ban on SMC Team affairs, but the PBA is an organization. as much competition there is, they're a band of brothers i suppose.

 

[insulares2]

The way I see it, Snow was not banned because of his Abby Poblador reportage, but for his Twitter tirade against Chua. It was conduct unbecoming of someone who styles himself a journalist, and an editor at that. He should've been more circumspect.

That's the crux that everybody seems to be missing. But it's not like we could totally blame them. Narvasa handled it badly enough to make it much easier for most people to pounce on the former as the only trigger, and not look at the totality of the rant.

Narvasa's memo to Badua is poorly written. It comes across as the handiwork of an emotional person, someone who appears heavily invested in the situation on a personal level. As the PBA commissioner, Narvasa should have written in a more dispassionate tone (note that this is possible even though he has some affinity to the "aggrieved" party). A few things that stick out in his letter are:

(1) Too much "I" and "you". Third-person references could've helped Narvasa appear more detached.

(2) Re: "And upon my investigation, said stories have no factual basis", Narvasa failed to itemize the steps of his alleged investigation. Showing transparency could've been one huge stride towards some semblance of credibility. In failing to do so, Narvasa's version of the truth unfortunately also projects a lack of factual basis.

(3) An unnecessary (yet equally revealing) portion of the memo is the rhetorical question Narvasa poses, to wit: "If this office allows such a baseless attack on a high official of this association, what is to prevent you from doing the same thing to any of us?"

Now if that statement doesn't show how watered down the powers of a PBA commissioner are (relative to that of, say, an SMC governor), then I don't know what will.

But that ban was a bit heavy-handed. It's as if Narvasa was trying to correct a wrong with another wrong. Things like that greatly reduce the credibility of all parties involved.

During the recent PBA draft, Narvasa expressed a preference to have the coaches announce their picks instead of the commissioner.

His reason? "After all, the commissioner has no fans."

At least Narvasa got that one right.

 

[budz172]

narvasa hit snow where it will really hurt, his livelihood.

alfrancis chua is really silent on this issue. here comes his friend to his "rescue."

I agree the abby scandal was'nt the issue but the twitter rant about chua being the reason for smc players not playing for national team and chua's alleged backstabbing of his friends.

 

[Epithetless2]

If this office allows such a baseless attack on a high official of this association, what is to prevent you from doing the same thing to any of us?"

This quote also struck me as I do not see a good reason for adding it, it makes it seem the commisioner is issuing the ban from a positiion of fear and weakness instead of projecting an image of fair authority. Paraphrased it is: "We are afraid you have the power to embarass us the same way you did Pareng Al."

The best response would have been to act as if the Smc allegations were beneath contempt, does not warrant serious consideration, and laughably ridiculous. By bringing down the hammer on Snow they implicitly admit that he is a threat to them. As Thomas Jefferson said: " Ridicule is the only weapon against unintelligible propositions."

 

[judasmartel2]

/sarcasm start

Non-fans of SMC teams, let's talk trash to everyone who refuses to help the national cause so they will ban us from PBA activities for life.

Blind, die-hard, loyal fans of SMC teams will be happy in their ignorance but they can cheer all they want for their teams.

Enter a businessman dedicated to developing genuine PH basketball who starts a genuine nationwide home-and-away NBA-style professional league.

SMC-run and politics-infested PBA dies a natural death, PH basketball grows to new heights.

Just as planned.

/sarcasm end

 

[insulares2]

If this office allows such a baseless attack on a high official of this association, what is to prevent you from doing the same thing to any of us?"

This quote also struck me aa I do not see a good reason for adding it, it makes it seem the commisioner is issuing the ban from a positiion of fear and weakness instead of projecting an image of fair authority. Paraphrased it is: "We are afraid you have the power to embarass us the same way you did Pareng Al."

The best response would have been to act as if the Smc allegations were beneath contempt, does not warrant serious consideration, and laughably ridiculous. By bringing down the hammer on Snow they implicitly admit that he is a threat to them. As Thomas Jefferaon said: " Ridicule is the only weapon against unintelligible propositions."

If I asked for a show of hands on which Chito IBNers admire more (Salud or Narvasa), I suspect it might result in an armless response.

But the difference between the two is quite stark, at least from a damage control standpoint. Narvasa should have taken a page from his CEO backer on how to conduct one's commissionership with poise, and could have used the Renaldo Balkman case as guidance.

Salud handled the Balkman case very professionally. The offence was egregious, and the offender was a foreigner. It was easy to drop the hammer right away, and the public would've shrugged their shoulders and said "good riddance". However, Salud remained conscientious and proceeded with care.

Salud declared that Balkman would receive due process. What we know is that the Puerto Rican was allowed to have an audience with the commissioner, before Salud issued his edict. The fairness of the lifetime ban may be open to debate, but I feel that the statement itself is well-written and carefully considered. Even Salud's oral delivery appeared dispassionate enough - he was careful not to make any personal attacks. Rather, he framed his verdict purely in the context of offending the association and the sensibilities of the host country.

You know something is amiss with Narvasa's handling of the situation when his boss has to come out to defend the action against the reporter.

In coming to Narvasa's defence, Salud appears to distance himself somewhat when he said:

"I believe the Commissioner issued the subject order upon a determination that it falls within his office's prerogative, and after weighing various considerations.."

That, to me, is a pointed statement that denies involvement with the PBA commissioner's action.

 

[kontiki2]

what is this amature hour?? man narvasa is off to a bad start. he's making salud look like a pro!

 

[Jay P. Mercado2]

If I asked for a show of hands on which Chito IBNers admire more (Salud or Narvasa), I suspect it might result in an armless response.

But the difference between the two is quite stark, at least from a damage control standpoint. Narvasa should have taken a page from his CEO backer on how to conduct one's commissionership with poise, and could have used the Renaldo Balkman case as guidance.

Salud handled the Balkman case very professionally. The offence was egregious, and the offender was a foreigner. It was easy to drop the hammer right away, and the public would've shrugged their shoulders and said "good riddance". However, Salud remained conscientious and proceeded with care.

Salud declared that Balkman would receive due process. What we know is that the Puerto Rican was allowed to have an audience with the commissioner, before Salud issued his edict. The fairness of the lifetime ban may be open to debate, but I feel that the statement itself is well-written and carefully considered. Even Salud's oral delivery appeared dispassionate enough - he was careful not to make any personal attacks. Rather, he framed his verdict purely in the context of offending the association and the sensibilities of the host country.

You know something is amiss with Narvasa's handling of the situation when his boss has to come out to defend the action against the reporter.

In coming to Narvasa's defence, Salud appears to distance himself somewhat when he said:

"I believe the Commissioner issued the subject order upon a determination that it falls within his office's prerogative, and after weighing various considerations.."

That, to me, is a pointed statement that denies involvement with the PBA commissioner's action.

Excellent examples, as always. Salud had several faults, but handling crisis situations sans emotions was one of his greatest strengths.

It's quite unusual for Narvasa to act haphazardly in this case. He wasn't just a lawyer, he was a bank executive and one of the major competencies for that position is to remain dispassionate, however the situation may be.

He was a player and a coach as well. Well, not exactly a PBA player but he was an integral part of the Blue Eagles team of 1975 and 1976 that won back to back NCAA championships. While he may have understudied under the mercurial Coach Chot Reyes at Purefoods, he wasn't exactly a fiery head coach with Shell.

Perhaps, it's his personal association with Chua that led to this. Or in a more sublime perspective, he may have taken after his father, the former Chief Justice, and his namesake, Andres, Sr., who was known for his uncontrollable temper, particularly during his CJ stint. Quite surprising, considering how he handled himself remarkably during the Ninoy Aquino trial...

 

[Alcan2]

Excellent examples, as always. Salud had several faults, but handling crisis situations sans emotions was one of his greatest strengths.

It's quite unusual for Narvasa to act haphazardly in this case. He wasn't just a lawyer, he was a bank executive and one of the major competencies for that position is to remain dispassionate, however the situation may be.

He was a player and a coach as well. Well, not exactly a PBA player but he was an integral part of the Blue Eagles team of 1975 and 1976 that won back to back NCAA championships. While he may have understudied under the mercurial Coach Chot Reyes at Purefoods, he wasn't exactly a fiery head coach with Shell.

Perhaps, it's his personal association with Chua that led to this. Or in a more sublime perspective, he may have taken after his father, the former Chief Justice, and his namesake, Andres, Sr., who was known for his uncontrollable temper, particularly during his CJ stint. Quite surprising, considering how he handled himself remarkably during the Ninoy Aquino trial...

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