Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[Jordan Bruiseter2]

high scoring guard na lumalaro sa national team... kapalit ng dalawang players – isang warrior na mataas lumipad at isang mamamana.
-David for Canaleta...

Interesting how this rumor would affect KG in the tough QF matchup against Alaska.

Looking at it deeper though, this rumor comes strangely coincidental with Coach Franz's public high praises for his athletic forward. Might it be Pumaren's way of calming Niño's potential anxiety? Or his gentle way of telling top management to keep off the planned trade...management who's apparently traded away players in the past without the coach's knowledge?

 

[silverwing2]

Ginebra set to acquire Josh Urbiztondo from ousted Barako for Keith Jensen, draft pick

Despite Barako Bull’s ouster from playoff contention, Josh Urbiztondo’s Commissioner’s Cup will go on.

The hotshot point guard is set to join playoff-bound Barangay Ginebra San Miguel in a deal closed Wednesday, the final day of the tournament’s elimination round.

Urbiztondo, who confirmed the news to InterAKTV, has had a banner Commissioner’s Cup, averaging 12.7 points, 4.1 rebounds, and 5.6 assists for the tournament. But he failed to lead his team to the playoffs, as Barako Bull finished ninth despite a promising start.

Ginebra will give up rookie forward Keith Jensen, who was selected eighth overall in the 2012 draft but has been in and out of the Gin Kings’ rotation. The Gin Kings will also send a second round pick in the deal.

Barako Bull acquired Urbiztondo from San Mig Coffee prior to the season for a steep price — a first round pick that originally belonged to the Powerade franchise that has since been purchased by GlobalPort. With the Batang Pier stumbling to the league’s worst record in the first two conferences this season, that pick would be very valuable for the upcoming rookie draft.

http://www.interaksyon.com/interakt...rom-ousted-barako-for-keith-jensen-draft-pick

 

[balbi2]

Now that's a surprising trade. Ginebra now has legit outside threat in urbiztondo.

 

[Jay P. Mercado2]

Urbiztondo is actually a perfect fit for a free-wheeling offensive team. Which was why I found it difficult how he was able to earn Tim Cone's trust at B-Meg (now San Mig) before.

Some things noteworthy about this trade:

1. What will Barako do with Jensen? They've got several 3, 4 and 5's players already. These include: Mick Pennisi, Rico Villanueva, Danny Seigle, Dave Marcelo, Don Allado, Jason Ballesteros, Doug Kramer, Sean Anthony, JC Intal and Allein Maliksi. With the addition of Jensen, that's 10 players standing at least 6'4.

2. Rajko Toroman relied heavily on Urbiztondo at the PG position, averaging at least 35 minutes per game. His other PG, Jonas Villanueva, will be coming from an injury but he'll probably be Barako's starting court general. This also means Emman Monfort will be given more playing time and they're hoping that Monfort can replicate the same success story that Olsen Racela had starting in 1996 under Ron Jacobs.

3. Urbiztondo will fit snugly in Al Chua's scheme of things. He's a shoot first, pass later guard who will never be afraid to take shots without conscience. How Urbiztondo can work with Mark Caguioa and LA Tenorio would be at the top of the mind of Chua. Ginebra fans would either love or hate him - I never liked Urbiztondo as a PG and I don't I think I'll ever like him unless he learns to feed his teammates more.

4. Will this mean the end for Jayjay Helterbrand? Helterbrand has been the scourge of Ginebra fans lately, being pilloried because he allegedly can't cope with the PBA game anymore. Is he retiring and Urbiztondo ready to take his place?

5. Urbiztondo playing for Ginebra will add excitement...and agony...for Ginebra fans. Ginebra creates its excitement through several facets - the three point shot being a primary weapon. Urbiztondo will not hesitate to take the open three - heck, he won't hesitate to take a guarded three at that.

6. Ginebra has been struggling because of the absence of big men. They only have a few now, quite opposite to Barako's roster. Instead of giving Jensen enough playing time to continue proving his worth, they opted for another small guy to provide points. Will Jay Washington or Japeth Aguilar find their way at the Ginebra bench soon?

Bottomline, I can't see the logic behind this trade unless this is part of a mid to long term plan. While Urbiztondo may be a good fit for the team's plays, he won't be the answer to Ginebra's woes that they've had in the past couple of seasons.

 

[Cryotek2]

Now that's a surprising trade. Ginebra now has legit outside threat in urbiztondo.

And goodluck to Ginebra in the quarters, I hope they'll not battle RoSE(w/ a lot of big guards) this early!

 

[KevinDurant2]

Getting another PG does not make sense. They should have gotten Maliksi instead if the purpose of the trade was to supplant Caguioa's contributions in points

 

[Cryotek2]

Getting another PG does not make sense. They should have gotten Maliksi instead if the purpose of the trade was to supplant Caguioa's contributions in points

What's new! Ginebra really likes to have a surplus of PGs on their team.

 

[all_about2]

the timing of Urbiztondo's trade to Ginebra is perfect. It is what they exactly needed. Remember there is no Caguioa for playoffs, Labagala is not a 2 guard although he has proved to be an able back up for Tenorio. Lastly, Jensen was a bench warmer never got the ample playing time as a Ginebra player.
Good trade for both teams. Now Jensen can start all over again with a new team and show what he can do. Urbiztondo has experience tuck under his belt. A good fit for the uptempo Ginebra San Miguel.

 

[balbi2]

the timing of Urbiztondo's trade to Ginebra is perfect. It is what they exactly needed. Remember there is no Caguioa for playoffs, Labagala is not a 2 guard although he has proved to be an able back up for Tenorio. Lastly, Jensen was a bench warmer never got the ample playing time as a Ginebra player.
Good trade for both teams. Now Jensen can start all over again with a new team and show what he can do. Urbiztondo has experience tuck under his belt. A good fit for the uptempo Ginebra San Miguel.

I can feel the role of urbiztondo would be the same with the role of jarencio during the 90's ginebra. Urbiztondo now has to learn how he'll fit in al francis chua's system but i think it wont be a problem..

 

[SG 30002]

Getting another PG does not make sense. They should have gotten Maliksi instead if the purpose of the trade was to supplant Caguioa's contributions in points

Urbiztondo was obtained because Ginebra needs a shooter. It does not matter (for now) what position he plays. Maliksi already played for them and he was not a fit.

If Caguioa misses the QF, we'll see Josh play more SG than PG. Since Caguioa got injured, they have been playing Ellis, Tenorio, and Helterbrand in that position. Having Urbiztondo at SG actually makes more sense, scoring and shooting wise. LA should stick being the PG, Labagala should be 3rd in the PG rotation, and Helterbrand should be 3rd at the SG rotation (and should retire at the end of the season if he continues to fade). Even when Mark returns, Urbiztondo should be the team's backup at the SG and PG positions. When Dylan returns, Urbiztondo can play full-time as LA's backup at PG.

 

[SG 30002]

And Jensen is only around 6'2. He's a small forward. Intal so far has been a disappointment and Anthony is more comfortable playing PF. Jensen can fit nicely as an SF for the Bulls. But they need a more marquee player if they want to crush the QF next conference.

 

[all_about2]

And Jensen is only around 6'2. He's a small forward. Intal so far has been a disappointment and Anthony is more comfortable playing PF. Jensen can fit nicely as an SF for the Bulls. But they need a more marquee player if they want to crush the QF next conference.

Jensen is between 6'3 to 6'4 in height. He is definitely and upgrade for Barako which is in dire need of a young, youthful and exuberant player. At best Jensen is like a Rip Hamilton type of a player.

 

[SG 30002]

Jensen is between 6'3 to 6'4 in height. He is definitely and upgrade for Barako which is in dire need of a young, youthful and exuberant player. At best Jensen is like a Rip Hamilton type of a player.

I doubt it. At most 6'3. He looks smaller than Hatfield and Ellis. He is listed as 6'4 in the US so that means 1 or 2 inches of padded ht.

He does not have a consistent mid-range game yet. I mean he has not shown it yet in the pba.

 

[balbi2]

Jensen is between 6'3 to 6'4 in height. He is definitely and upgrade for Barako which is in dire need of a young, youthful and exuberant player. At best Jensen is like a Rip Hamilton type of a player.

on.

i'm not sure how did you compare jensen from hamilton. jensen is quite slow in his position and does not have a deadly mid-range shot. i would like to compare his style with that of a younger will antonio.

 

[all_about2]

I doubt it. At most 6'3. He looks smaller than Hatfield and Ellis. He is listed as 6'4 in the US so that means 1 or 2 inches of padded ht.

He does not have a consistent mid-range game yet. I mean he has not shown it yet in the pba.

I'm not exaggerating his height but pre draft measurement he is 6'4 1/4 without shoes. His trade to Barako makes good for his career and could be an improved version of him.

 

[Cryotek2]

Barako should get rid of Intal right now...send him to TNT or Meralco even for just future draft picks!

 

[balbi2]

I'm not exaggerating his height but pre draft measurement he is 6'4 1/4 without shoes. His trade to Barako makes good for his career and could be an improved version of him.

improved version of?
i doubt he'll be given big minutes in barako. he'll play behind the likes of maliksi, intal, anthony, and macapagal. plus the next batch of imports will have a height limitation, maybe same height or position with jensen. well, it's just my opinion and i still hope he proves me wrong and he'll be developed under toroman.

 

[balbi2]

Barako should get rid of Intal right now...send him to TNT or Meralco even for just future draft picks!

dillinger or aban+draft pick for intal?

 

[Silent Killer2]

dillinger or aban+draft pick for intal?

nah... TNT is wise enough not to get intal and tnt will be dumb if they give up dillinger to barako. Plus barako bull is a semi sister team of original evil empire.

 

[yapster2]

nah... TNT is wise enough not to get intal and tnt will be dumb if they give up dillinger to barako. Plus barako bull is a semi sister team of original evil empire.

"Evil sister" is obviously sending players to Barako because coach Rajko can make them better. I am sure that Maliksi who improved the most will soon be back to SM. Even Siegle who looked pathetic last year achieved pretty good shape. Meaning, Barako will not be able to make a good team. Look what they did now, not saying that Urbiztondo is perfect, good that he is traded, but instead of him they got one more PF player(Jensen), that they are loaded with already, plus a bench guy.